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  1. 35 points
    So the pup and I headed out to some of my favorite bench areas above the creek; good thing I checked the depth of the water at the crossing before trying to take the side x side through like I normally did in previous years....mid-thigh high, so carried gear and pup to other side and hiked just under a mile to first site: A granite nob that's been hit by myself and several friends the past couple seasons, but it still keeps squeaking out little tiddlers: Got a couple there, then moved one to another spot where several more were found after moving some of the old-timers hand-stackings: Don't need a gym membership when you do this as a hobby! :-) Anyway, hit a few more areas with some success, but the creme de la creme (or should I say, creme de la crumb?) was this area I dug for hours and cleaned out at least 25 tiny bits....what fun the Monster was having! (To better get in under the roots etc, the Goldbug2 would have been better, but we managed) The next day and a half hit a couple more spots and ended up with this for my Bench Tour Total.....a lot of work(i.e. fun) for 1.4g lol! Pup and I had a great few days at the cabin.....but it's time to get the zed and 2300 out again, so off to California later this week! Cheers and Happy Hunting! p.s. kiwijw, I was inspired by your posts! :-)
  2. 33 points
    I managed to get the mighty Zed out to the hills today for a short hunt in some old Tertiary bench gravels. The ground proved a little too troublesome for the Locate Patch Ground Smoothing in High Yield / Normal, but by turning the Ground Smoothing off and changing to Difficult Ground Type I was able to nullify the ground response. It was only a short time before the WM-12 alerted me to a warble of moderate intensity. Switching back to Normal Ground Type, the signal became a solid, strong hi-low response which led me to believe that a respectable gold nugget was hiding below, but more likely it was just another piece of corroded square nail like the countless others I've dug at this particular location...only one way to find out! After blasting nearly a foot into the ancient gravels with my pick, I struck bedrock and the target was now screaming off the edge of the coil; definitely a promising sign. One final strike of the pick and the target was out - a chunky nine gram bit - in my book, a fat quarter ouncer. As an added bonus, there was a smaller, point seven of a gram piece in the dig pile. Happy Hunting!
  3. 25 points
    This week I got a chance to get over to the goldfields for two days. It's a fair drive so I'm not able to get out as often as others so my experience is limited. Most of what I've learned has come from books, videos, forums, and Facebook. I was lucky last month to stumble upon some ground that had been worked over by someone else but not thoroughly. Out of that patch, i found another 2 ounces. Using what I learned from finding that patch I went looking for more in a different area. On Monday and Tuesday, i found another 40 grams of gold in 4 different locations. It's a shame I can only go prospecting once a month but at least now I know how to narrow my search area right down to make the time im prospecting count. Most of this was found using the 18" Coiltek Elite on a 4500. I do use a b&z booster with Gog headphones which I think picks up those faint targets better. I'm also thinking the reason I did ok is the ground is very cold and damp so maybe the signal strength is better than during the middle of summer. The biggest bit of gold weighed 16 grams and was dug at 350mm or around 14 inches. I was lucky to hear that one as I was walking pretty quickly swinging the coil.
  4. 25 points
    I got a call at my business the other day. A miner was desperate to get some reclamation work done. I thought I had this guy pegged as another miner that made a mess on public land and now he is being told he has to clean it up. I was wrong. I ask his where the work was and what needed to be done. When he told me I told him this could cost several thousand dollars. He said he well understood the cost involved but the U.S.F.S. was going to keep his bond in addition to charging him for them to do the work which was several times more expensive than what I told him my work might cost. The work was to construct erosion control in his access road, remove a section of the road, and block off the road from future access. This didn't sound right and I told him I needed to see his Plan of Operation. He drove 100+ miles to bring me a copy of his plan. It was for occupancy for more than 14 days and to construct and maintain an out house- nothing more. The bond amount was extraordinarily excessive. I called the U.S.F.S. minerals officer to try to get a better understanding of the situation. She said that she considered the road as part of the reclamation. I replied "maybe it was but it wasn't part of the plan". She didn't care and if he didn't do as told he would be charged for the costs of the U.S.F.S doing the work. Somehow I managed to hold my smart@$$ mouth and my temper and politely said I believed the historic public road was protected by statute and she was acting outside of their own minerals administration guidelines, that if I could be shown a regulation, forest rule or any thing the claim owner signed or initialed that obligated him to eliminate his own claim access or something that gave her the authority to make these demands, I would immediately load up equipment and do the work otherwise I would need a better explanation from District Forest Ranger and Forest Supervisor. The claim owner received a call soon thereafter and was told he did not have to do the road work. The claim owner nearly spent thousands of dollars needlessly. So if any of you own a claim, please take the time to familiarize yourselves with regulations that apply to you AND regulations that apply to the regulators. Claim owners have more rights regarding their claims than what most realize. Please-no anti government rants if you reply. Thanks. Klunker
  5. 25 points
    Finally got the GM1000 out on the lode mine gravels I have access to. The small coil picked through the iron and trash easier than my GB2 did, and with it being so hot it was REALLY nice not having headphones on. Dug lots of crap, but eventually got a couple nice specimens. Tomorrow, up to one of my favorite benches if I can get across the creek! :-)
  6. 24 points
    Like a lot of people, I detect for gold because I want to find gold, not because I want to make heaps of money out of it. If I was doing this for a living I would have starved to death years ago. A mate of mine yesterday found this 1½ kilo rock with a 5000 and brought it around to my place to have it SG`d. It SG`s at 11.1 grams gold and I`ve never seen a piece anything like this so when my mate said he was going to smash it up to recover the gold I offered him spot price for it. This is the first piece of gold I have ever bought, I thought it looked too good to smash up. It looks better in real life than it does in the picture. And I scored major points when I gave it to my lovely lady as a birthday present. She loves this kind of stuff. Dave upload my photos
  7. 22 points
    Last weekend I got to tag along with Josh and Tom Bohmker, and a few other knowledgable miners. The destination was the Briggs Pocket in Southern Oregon. This was not an easy hike for some of the crew, but we all made it out and back. We did have one guy fall down a steep slope, but Josh was able to catch him before he tumbled down to the bottom. The video tells some of the history of this famous pocket mine as well as how Josh and his family have used modern P.I. detectors to recover the gold left on the hillside by previous generations of miners. Of all types of metal detecting for gold, I would count pocket hunting as the most difficult - due to the terrain, research, and extensive geology knowledge required. It's something not many people have the patience for (me included), so I have to say I admire the gumption of the Bohmker family - they discovered the Briggs Pocket just two weeks before another party and have pulled a lot of gold out of their claim. The gold from the Briggs Pocket tends to be spongey and interwound with the host rock (quartz). I will post some journal excerpts at the bottom of this post in case you'd like to read some historical accounts as well. But here's the video: Every time I see Josh and Tom I learn so much about the geology of gold. Anyone who has an interest in pocket hunting might want to look them up. They do go on regular expeditions with folks, which I believe they run through their website. I thought you guys might like a virtual tour of the Briggs Pocket - since this forum is where I got started on my journey of searching for gold. HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS Briggs History: (As recorded by the Mining Review, Salt Lake City, Utah bi monthly publication) June 30, 1904 Discovery of a mammoth pocket near the head waters of sucker creek, forty miles south of Grants Pass. The discovery was made by the two sons of David Briggs, while out hunting, and was purely accidental as they stumbled across it while trailing a deer. They have already brought in $6,000 from the pocket, and believe they will bring as much more before the glory hill is emptied. Much of the gold was in great slabs as big as a man's hand, and all of it came from a shallow cut, but three feet wide, three feet deep, and but six feet in length. July 15th, 1904 The Rush is still on to the new Eldorado up in the siskiyous, beyond Holland, and on the Oregon California line. I took the fever and joined the caravan, mainly for the purpose of satisfying a curiosity, but not an idle one, for it is to severe a strain on a scribblers physical make up to climb twenty miles almost straight up just to see what is going on over the divide. ......................... We found about 100 men scattered about the head of Thompson and Indian creeks, a number of whom had taken up claims. A townsite has been surveyed, and the town will be know as "Goldenview City" The strike made by Briggs has already taken out $25,000 in gold. Contented in the truth that want will never more drive them out of unbefitting toil, they are satisfied with the life of the mountains. Here is the freedom no other land can give, the genuine freedom of the western outer world. It was these mountains that gave up bountifully from their long hidden treasures. And they who were so fortunately endowed with not forget the giver. _ Dennis H Stovall Records indicate that this was worked for two seasons, and there was a group that braved the winter and worked through. In the end, the strike led to a rush up there of over 2000 men, almost everything was claimed up, and many smaller strikes were made within the vicinity. I don't think the town of Goldenview ever came to pass. They (Briggs) sold the claim and staked a new claim not far away. A company from Chicago invested substantial money into developing the mine, but turned up nothing, or at least not enough to be profitable. By June of 2005, there was no more reports on the Briggs strike.
  8. 21 points
    I am just back from a little detector outing and while I was at it I reflected on how once again I seem to do things a bit differently than other people. I am usually shy of talking about my specific settings because I am the last person to claim I know what's best when it comes to other people and how they detect. Ground conditions vary as do people's personal styles and preferences. Therefore I will include my usual caveat here that I am not claiming what I am doing is "the best" way of doing things. On the other hand I do seem to be able to make detectors deliver for me and I am willing to share how I do things in case it may help somebody else. Hopefully that proves to be the case with this post. For me the key is knowing my detector and how it reacts on my ground. I then let the detector tell me what to do when it comes to balancing sensitivity and ground responses. The task at hand has a lot to do with it. The Minelab Gold Monster 1000 is from my perspective two different detectors in one package. There are two basic tasks I usually expect to perform with it: 1. I have an acre of ground I want to detect from end to end. This for me requires using the larger of the two coils included with the GM1000, a blunt tipped 10" DD elliptical. Due to the GM1000 being a very high gain detector in more ways than one, my basic goal here is stability. I want the machine to be well behaved so that I can cover ground relatively quickly without having to deal with spurious false signals that require analysis. I am going to sacrifice a little theoretical "hots" in order to efficiently cover large areas, areas that may or may not contain gold. 2. I have a 20 foot by 20 foot area that I already know has small gold in it. My goal here is not to cover ground but to clean out the gold. This will at minimum mean running the Gold Monster as hot as possible, and may very well include going to the smaller of the two coils, a 5" round DD. However, I can find gold down around the 1/10th grain (480 grains per Troy ounce) region with the 10" coil and it will hit the larger bits at greater depth in milder ground so I am generally going to stick with the 10" coil unless I really am trying to get the very last flyspecks. What follows is predicated on the moderately mineralized ground of northern Nevada, where alkali (salt) ground is as much or more a consideration as small hot rocks. Even small depressions like a hoof print will collect water during a rain, and when almost but not completely dried the small damp spot may create a positive signal if the Gold Monster is running at high sensitivity levels. Once again I will warn that the specific settings I mention will vary under different ground conditions. Under the first scenario where I am trying to cover large areas I have found both manual sensitivity and auto sensitivity to be useful. Deciding between the two is as simple as knowing how variable the ground is. If the ground is relatively homogenous with minimal variation then manual sensitivity can work very well. If the ground gets too variable requiring constant burdensome adjustments of the sensitivity control to keep up, then going to auto sensitivity is more efficient. What does that mean in actual practice? Let's go over that but first I need to discuss the power up procedure. Much has been made of the necessity to hold the coil in the air as opposed to on the ground when the detector is first powered up. I will admit I am perhaps less stringent as regards that procedure. If I have any nearby electrical power sources, like a power line, cell tower, another detectorist nearby, etc. then I will raise the coil off the ground and point it directly at the tower or other person. This gives the GM1000 the best chance of "seeing" the interference during the few seconds frequency scan so possible interference can be eliminated or at least reduced as much as possible. However, in the interest of being completely honest, I have not found the Gold Monster at 45 kHz to be particularly sensitive to electrical interference and while in the middle of nowhere Nevada I often just turn the machine on and go about my business will no ill effects noted. The raise coil and point at nearest electrical source is a very good habit to develop, but in my experience at least it is not as critical for me as it appears to be for others. I am always going to use the deep seeking all metal mode whenever possible. This is not just because this mode goes deeper, but also because the coil is more forgiving about reporting items that are not centered well under the coil. The discrimination mode has the net effect of reducing the overall size of the detection area under the coil. This means that when running in the iron discrimination mode more care should be used to overlap sweeps. When my goal is covering ground that little bit of extra ground coverage per sweep does add up and all metal mode helps reduce the chance a nugget will be missed on any given sweep. The Gold Monster is noteworthy in that Minelab finally seems to have realized that the speaker actually needs to be loud enough to hear! I am quite enthralled by the boosted audio and the way the smallest targets pop even with my admittedly poor hearing. In fact, the Gold Monster bangs out so loud without headphones that I will often run a notch down from the maximum volume setting - it's so loud that in quiet locations it can be too loud. The volume control is also a secondary sensitivity control in a way, and so I usually run it full out. I do this as much to help create a forced threshold sound as to enhance my ability to hear small targets. More on that later. One of the greatest features on the Minelab Gold Monster 1000 is the automatic ground tracking. In my ground at least it is very efficient at effortlessly keeping up not only with ground conditions but in taking the edge off many hot rocks that would be problematic for other detectors. The beauty of this is that it eliminates the need to keep up with and make small adjustments to the ground balance control as would be the case with a detector that lacks an efficient automatic ground balance. I think most companies are equivalent when it comes to many features, but I do think when it comes to automatic ground tracking technology that Minelab has been and continues to be the industry leader. I was a "manual tuning only" diehard for a long time, but my experiences with the Minelab SDC 2300 in particular taught me to let go of that old thought process. The automatic ground tracking shifts the burden to the sensitivity control as the prime operational control on the GM1000. Minelab has positioned this control close enough to the center of the control panel that it is easily manipulated up or down with a thumb press by either left or right handed individuals. To summarize, I will raise the coil and point it at the nearest electrical source and then I will power the detector up and wait until it completes the frequency scan. The Gold Monster defaults to the last settings and so my machine will already be in all metal mode, but if not I will switch to that. From there I will go to manual sensitivity setting 7 and do a short walk around sweeping the coil over the ground. For me this means the coil is sliding lightly over the ground or no more than a few millimeters over it. So far for ground I have been frequenting the magic settings are 6 - 7 - 8. With the Gold Monster at full volume what I am seeking is a very minimal amount of ground feedback. These are very soft sounds that are quite unlike the hard edged pop of a genuine target. These sounds are created by the sensitivity being so high that ground noise is just starting to overcome the ground tracking ability to silence the ground. The problem with a silent search machine while in manual ground balance mode is that without a threshold you can end up leaving some performance on the table. If a setting of eight generates a little ground feedback, and you decide to go with 7 to make the machine completely silent, there is nothing wrong with that per se. However, if the ground changes and gets milder you may have the ability to run at a higher level of sensitivity, and without a change in the audio to alert you to a change in the ground, you will just leave the setting where it is. In my case if a setting of 7 is completely silent, I will bump to a setting of 8, and this almost always gives me that little ground feedback I want. If 7 is too noisy, I will drop to a setting of 6 and this will probably do the trick for me. The range between each setting seems about perfect for a person to settle on a range of three settings, too little, too much, and just right. For my areas 6 - 7 - 8 are the magic numbers. For worse ground the range may shift lower, to 5 - 6 - 7. Try and picture this. At sensitivity 7 I am just scanning along, coil lightly on the ground, with soft ground feedback, waiting for that hard little signal that even the tiniest target will generate. Then all the sudden the machine goes dead quiet. I have entered less mineralized ground. One thumb tap to sensitivity 8, and I get my "false threshold" back. Or, at a setting of 7 the machine gets noisier. Maybe a little alkali patch or more mineralized ground. A quick tap down to 6 reduces the feedback to my desired minimal level. What I am doing is letting the ground tracking do its job, and then just bumping the sensitivity up or down a notch to ride the ragged edge of best performance for the ground. "Gee Steve, sensitivity 6 - 7 - 8, aren't you giving up lots of depth running at 6 or 7 or anything less than 10"? My air testing...." A pox on air tests! They have uses but have little bearing on how to get the best performance out of a detector in the field. I do like to run my detectors hot and that does often mean with some ground noise, but it has to be kept within manageable limits. For the purposes of covering a lot of ground pushing the GM1000 to the edge is good but any farther and everything sounds like a target and knock sensitivity shoots up dramatically, especially at the hyper sensitivity settings of 9 and 10. The reality from what I have seen so far is that the Minelab Gold Monster 1000 at settings of 6 - 7 - 8 will match or exceed most detectors in its class. Let's save manual sensitivity 9 or 10 for my next detecting scenario up next. Again, a reminder that 6 - 7 - 8 is working well for me in moderate ground. In more mineralized ground it may be 5 - 6 - 7 or even 4 - 5 - 6. If you simply listen to the machine it will tell you where you need to be. Too high, too low - just right. I have actually found gold with the sensitivity as low as 3 when in some nasty salt encrusted ground. People seem so adverse to lowering sensitivity I often wonder how many would just give up before going that low. It just can't find gold set that low, can it? Yes it can. You either tame the ground or go home and even though depth is reduced you can still find gold a low sensitivity settings if that is what it takes to get stable performance in the worst ground. So what about auto sensitivity? Simple really. If you are finding that you are having to bump the sensitivity up and down too often (you will know when that is for you) then it is time for Auto sensitivity. Auto sensitivity is different than manual in that you can trust it to keep the detector at the optimum level even if running silent. In general Auto is the silent running mode whereas Auto+ usually introduces a slight amount of ground feedback at full volume. As I mentioned earlier the volume control acts as a secondary sensitivity filter and running it lower can reduce or eliminate slight ground noise while still allowing targets to sound off loud and clear. Auto+ works best for me in most places but if need be I can drop to simple Auto for more difficult variable ground where Auto+ may get too noisy. OK, we have been hunting as described above and get a target. What next? If you are digging everything, a good practice, then just recover that target. If it is faint, either bumping the manual sensitivity up two points or dropping out of Auto into a high manual setting can aid greatly in pinpointing and recovering the target. What about trash? Too much and I don't want to dig them all? I am hunting in all metal mode and I rely on the meter to make a dig or no dig decision. In some ways it is a probability thing. If a few sweeps over the target from various directions produce a series of "hard left" ferrous meter responses, the target is likely ferrous. My goal is to try and coax a non-ferrous response with the meter kicking to the right. Just one non-ferrous response raises the odds you have a non-ferrous target. Even then I might pass in a trashy area, but two or more non-ferrous responses and you had better just dig it. Small nuggets in mineralized soil are fighting the ferrous content of the soil itself and in bad ground the ferrous ground response often wins. If you are looking for gold look for reasons to dig targets, not reasons to walk away. The amount of trash will help determine just how aggressive or lax you decide to be in these dig or no-dig decisions. Running is disc mode should be reserved for situations where there is no other option. It may be needed to eliminate a certain hot rock response. Or there may be multiple trash targets per swing - you can't analyze them all. The iron discrimination mode can be a real lifesaver in these instances. However, consider the borderline nugget that will read ferrous seven out of ten swings. That means you only have a 30% chance on a single pass over the target of having the machine give an audio non-ferrous report while in iron discrimination mode. The odds are even worse if you are not perfectly over the target, a bit too high, or swinging a little too fast. If the detector decides ferrous on that first pass, you get no sound and go right by, never knowing it was there. This is where detectors with a ferrous tone have the advantage in alerting you to every target so you can double or triple check. With a silent rejection system you get just one chance at the target and if the detector is wrong, the nugget is missed. Minelab Gold Monster 1000 Iron Discrimination Mode Versus All Metal Mode All metal is more forgiving in multiple ways, but mostly by alerting you to every target, allowing you to stop, get the coil lower if need be, slow the sweep, change the angle, etc. all with the goal of trying to coax a non-ferrous response from the target. I highly recommend that if you use discrimination you use it sparingly and conservatively, and only go to full blown iron disc mode it you must. We all have a different threshold for when that will be but rest assured hot rocks or thick trash will pretty much force the issue. That sure sounds complicated! In practice, hunting at sensitivity 6, I am going to get a signal. If it is faint, I will bump the sensitivity a couple notches now that I am on target. Too hot for general hunting but fine for spot checks. The target response will enhance, giving much surer results on the discrimination meter, and allowing for easier pinpointing and recovery. Target in pouch, sensitivity back down two notches and I am on my way again. For extreme ground JP has a bit more complicated method for getting back into the hunt as described here. For me personally hunting in moderate ground simply going back to my base sensitivity setting and swinging away is working fine. Again however, I am discussing just general detecting at this point, not getting the best and finest edge on the performance. Which leads me to.... ...that 20 foot by 20 foot spot I want to clean out. The 5" coil has an edge on the really tiny gold and in more mineralized ground in particular it "sees" less ground and is the coil of choice for cleanup duty. In moderate ground I run the Monster at manual sensitivity 10 and much like running my GPZ 7000 fully maxed out with Steve's Insanely Hot Settings I tame the machine strictly through coil control. This means moving at a crawl, and because at sensitivity 9 and especially 10 some knock sensitivity is introduced, I employ my magical ability to keep a coil 1 mm off the ground while never touching anything. In severe ground sensitivity 9 or 10 may not be attainable at all, and as always I defer to JP and his operating procedures for dealing with really bad ground. But for my milder ground I can crank the GM1000 all the way up and even with the 10" coil hit gold down to around 1/10th grain and with the 5" coil smaller yet. Again, extreme coil control is the answer here but the catch is that you are never going to cover much ground in a day doing this. If covering ground is the goal, stick with more stable settings. But if you want to chase flyspecks (they do add up) then be very patient while working the coil and the Minelab Gold Monster is pretty amazing in what it can do. I do hope this helps somebody somewhere. Again, all I am doing is telling you what I am doing and what is working for me. If you prefer to do something different by all means - I am not trying to say these settings are the "best settings" as in my opinion there simply is no such thing. The best settings for my wife would probably be Auto sensitivity while in disc mode. "Here honey, swing this closely over the ground, and if it goes beep, dig it up." Different ground and different experience levels mean different settings. Never be afraid to experiment. If you only use settings you find on a website and never experiment yourself you will never truly learn any detector and what works best for your circumstances. Good luck out there and above all, have fun! Photo below: Some gold I just found, 4.9 grams total. The top four nuggets were found with the GPZ 7000 (largest nugget 2.2 grams) and the bottom nine with the Gold Monster 1000 (smallest flake ?? gram) using the methods described above.
  9. 21 points
    Decided to take the Monster out from under the bed and up into the hills for a couple hours today. Used JP's recommended procedures outlined in his Minelab blog and it worked very well. Also taped the coil lead of the 5-inch coil to the shaft very close to the the coil as posted elsewhere on the forum. While it didn't completely eliminate the falsing that occurs in max sensitivity when bumping the coil, it was greatly improved. Altogether, the Monster located a dozen flakes of gold this time out. The total weight is 2.5 grains, or 0.2 of a gram.
  10. 19 points
    My compliments to the chef, this crow I'm eating tonight is delicious Note: these are post CLR/ultrasonic clean.... You all know I've been pretty "honest" about my love for my 5000 and the frustrations I've had with Zeddie but she blew me away today on these three from the King Tut Placers (Gold Basin). They were down 3/4 of a foot or so and were clear as day, sung like a jay bird beautiful weee woooo dig me dig me signal.... Weights (in grains) 1.7 grains, 2.2 grains, and 3.1 grains.... Very thin pieces, as can be seen in the leaning on the dime photo.... It looks like Zeddie's sleeping on the couch today, not standing up in the corner like usual. I know my 5000 and 17x13 Evo would have missed them, I tested similar size... with the Sadie, maybe but these sounded like they were right on the surface, one was in a dig hole (thank you whomever left it). I'll eat GPZ crow all day long if it tastes like this. Note: I also tested on a 1.2 ouncer at DEEEEEP depth and was blown away how loud it was, even at sens 4. Green stripe shot is prior to cleanup. My favorite is the one that looks like a little shopping cart. Jen
  11. 18 points
    G'day all, this was a nice surprise, a 3.1 gram nugget and an 11.5 gram specie with 5 grams of gold in it. Found with the mighty GPZ 7000 and pin pointed with the SDC 2300
  12. 18 points
    G'day All, Jen and I went for a big walk from the vehicle, we were heading back to the vehicle and I saw some interesting looking ground and decided to detect the area on my way back. I waved the coil around a bush and heard a faint change under a couple of largish rocks. Thinking one was a hot rock I kicked them both out of the way and waved my coil back over the spot. The faint sound to my surprise, got a bit better, so out came the pick and after a few scrapes the target signal was a very positive one. Then digging some more I found I was picking into hard rock and the sound was starting to scream at me. The hole I had was a good 8/10" deep and I was having trouble chipping into the rocky bottom. I turned on my backtracker GPS and I could see I was 250mts away from where the vehicle was parked. I decided to mark my dig hole and headed back to the vehicle as I was needing a drink by this time and also I couldn't dig anymore with just the pick. Jen was already back at the vehicle I told her what I had been doing and that we need to get the vehicle up there so I can finish digging the target out. Anyway we finally got back to my dig hole after a bit of bushbashing and the time was starting to get away now. I finally got the target out of the hard rock type ground and it turned out to be a nice Gold/Quartz specie. Cheers. Mike.
  13. 18 points
    What a fabulous turn of phrase! From now on when I head out with the Gold Monster I will just be taking the dog for a walk. I love dogs! All I know is I am having a great time prospecting, playing with detectors, hanging with the horses and antelope, finding gold, and enjoying the beauty of the desert. Life is good.
  14. 17 points
    This is a very preliminary report. I want to emphasize that I am a newbie on the XP Deus. Although I purchased an 11" Deus V3.2 model almost two years ago, it was with the express purpose of being able to test the V4 update with the new high frequency coil options for gold prospecting. I decided I was better off just starting fresh with version 4.0 before really digging in and learning the detector. I do get the hang of detectors quickly but this does show what can be done by somebody who went out barely knowing the machine. The other catch is that I picked a location that favors the Deus with relatively mild soil for a gold location, so mild I could run the machine full out to get the maximum possible sensitivity with the machine. These results are not going to be as easy to obtain in extreme mineral ground. You have to start someplace however and being new to the machine I wanted to give myself someplace easy to start. Finally, the goal here was to find the smallest gold I could so for the purposes of this report - smaller is better. These nuggets were recovered over the course of a day. Ten nuggets, 4.7 grains total weight. There are 480 grains per Troy ounce and with an average weight of less than half a grain I think you can agree this is some pretty small stuff. The smallest bits are probably near 1/10th grain or 1/4800th of a Troy ounce. Click picture for larger version. The new HF elliptical coil running at 74 kHz is clearly in the same league as the 71 kHz Fisher Gold Bug 2, 45 kHz Minelab Gold Monster, 56 kHz Makro Gold Racer, and 48 kHz White's GMT. However, the devil is in the details and it will be some time before I sort out how the machines compare under more difficult and varied conditions. Again, I am not an expert with the Deus and so the settings I mention are not to be taken as "the best" or anything like that. I was actually gold prospecting so the primary focus was to find gold, not to test every possible combination of settings on the Deus. With 10 program options and numerous settings that will be a longer term project. I obviously wanted to try the Gold Field program 10. After a little experimenting I settled on the GM Power program 2 as an alternate disc mode to try. Getting from program 10 to program 2 is only a couple button pushes, so I bounced back and forth between the two programs and tweaked settings higher as I found targets and could compare readings. Gold Field is a threshold based all metal mode with what I find to be a rather pleasant digitized buzz. That's me of course, others may differ on that point. I was able to run sensitivity full out at 99. All my work was done at 74 khz, the default highest frequency setting without trying to push it higher via the offset. I figure the coil is tuned at 74 khz and so stuck with that for now. Manual ground balance about 84. GM Power I got sensitivity to 94 with only minor falsing. I reduced reactivity (similar to SAT for you nugget hunters) to 0 from the default of 2 and ran the audio response (audio boost) up to 7 (max). Both modes exhibit just a little touch sensitivity at these high gain levels. This might be tamed with the ground notch but I have not fooled with that yet and it did not bother me at all anyway. What I found was Gold Field has a softer response in general but that my boosted version of GM Power banged hard on the little bits. Not unlike going from all metal mode on the Gold Bug 2 to the Iron Disc mode. Instead of faint threshold variations you get a strong "beep". The difference is that the Gold Bug 2 Iron Disc mode has an obvious loss in sensitivity. The Deus by comparison in this particular situation actually seemed to work better in GM Power mode, but that is mainly the boosted audio at work. I left the disc settings at the defaults for GM Power which worked well - low tone iron, higher tones non-ferrous. I ran the IAR (iron reject) in Gold Field at 2. This was just enough to cause ferrous to break up. Higher settings would blank most ferrous completely but getting to aggressive can also eliminate weak gold signals. The ferrous discrimination worked very well in both programs. GM Power in particular was pretty awesome in the nail pits with iron tones firing off like a machine gun. I bumped reactivity back to 2 in the dense trash. Anyway, this is a very preliminary report and so no point getting too deep into it as I will probably modify my opinions and settings as I get more time on the machine. Right now this is a high price option if all you need is a prospecting unit, but for a person wanting one machine to do everything XP just kicked it up a notch. If they introduce a dedicated gold unit at a lower price similar to the Depar DPR 600 it would be very competitive. For now this is an option for somebody that wants a detector for more than just gold prospecting since the Deus is a superb coin, relic, and jewelry detector. The elliptical coil and rod assembly is just 1 lb 13 oz (1.8 lbs) and so a true featherweight. At 5' 11" I have to run it fully extended and at that it does flex a bit, but I did not find that bothersome at all. A solid coil cover will be good as there are too many coil edges that want to hang up on rubble and sticks. A minor quibble however as the machine is a joy to handle, especially when reaching uphill waist high and higher. A great unit for poking in and around bushes and other obstructions. The coil is hotter at the tips which also helps in poking into tight locations. Early days but the final word is that I am happy with this coil so far after all the wait. Time will tell how it handles the really bad ground and how it fares directly against some of the competition.
  15. 17 points
    I did the annual 5 and a half day drive from east oz to the Pilbara area in western Australia for 8 weeks prospecting with a friend. Floods earlier in the year scoured the creeks out and that helped, but a lack of natural fires meant many places are covered in thick spinifex giving you only about 10% of the ground to detect on. We managed 23 ounces between us, which was not brilliant considering we know a fair few places from earlier trips. But the trip, scenery, camping and people we met made the annual trip something great and I can't wait for the dry winter WA prospecting season to start each year. Some of the gold...hundreds of nuggets were sub grammers, my best was a 76 gram flatty found at about 26 inches down with the 19 coil. My favourite piece is the squashed leaf gold nugget with little pyramidal gold crystals on its surface. cheers RDD Ps. I hope to visit the US and take in the scenery/people......and detect a couple nuggets from some of your iconic goldfields one day.
  16. 17 points
    Delicious. Keep swinging people.
  17. 16 points
    Hi guys, Well....Mrs JW went up north for a few days to catch up with friends & family leaving me home alone for the weekend. We all know what that means......Johnny click beetle can go detecting for the whole weekend & stay out up there in the hills sleeping rough. So early Saturday morning with batteries all charged up, tucker bag, thermos, cooking primus & all other required paraphernalia, I was off. 2.5 hours drive later & I was rigged up & in to it. The conditions were absolutely perfect for detecting. About 4 degrees Celsius, that's 4 degrees above freezing point. So cool but not cold. Well not to me anyway. Not a breath of wind & going to be a lovely sunny winters day. The ground was nice & moist but not saturated & I was amazed at how deep the moisture had actually penetrated into the ground. Found this out after digging a few crap signals. Usually the ground is bone dry when you have dug down 4-6 inches. I was excited by the depth of the moisture in the ground as I know this enhances depth & sensitivity beyond what is "normal". It did make for a bit more liveliness from the ground but nothing I was uncomfortable with. I stayed in High Yield/Normal & even cranked the sensitivity up to 10 from my usual more conservative settings of around 4-6. I had decided to hit some well flogged areas, three in fact, where I had done very well on & had found some nice patches. Two of the areas were pretty close to each other all had each given up to me well over an ounce from each patch. They were all discovered back in my GP 3000 days & with the 24 x 12 inch coiltek UFO coil. Giving up numerous multi gram pieces & the usual small gold that I normally get. I had been over them a couple of times all ready with the Zed. Getting some small but deeper gold from two of the spots but nothing off the other. Due to the conditions I had a very confident feeling as I know that no one gets all the gold & despite me having been over these areas so many times over the years with all coils on my PI detectors I knew there still had to gold there. The day had a good feeling about it. The grass was very short, not only due to the winter conditions, but the sheep had been in these areas in the last couple of weeks & chewed it right down. They had even chewed the tussock grasses right down to the little nub or crown that sticks up 2-3 inches above the ground level. In the past I had to just detect around these tussocky grasses as I could not wave my coils over them. Today was different. Although with the Zed I had to be very careful in lifting the coil up & over these crowns as the Zed doesn't like to have its coil raised & lowered from the ground so I had to do it very slowly. In fact I detected very slowly over the entire areas skidding the coil over the ground listening intently for any faint whisper or interruption in the threshold. So....first spot & after an hour I got a faint but nice sounding signal. I had been getting quite a few of those little double hit signals that usually end up being a very shallow shot gun pellet. I usually dig every thing but as I had been over these areas not long ago with the Zed I took these to be new shot gun pellet type signals to be from recent rabbit shooting. So if they moved after a couple of scrapes I just moved on. I was waiting for the signal to live on down a bit before I would carry on to retrieve the target. So this signal was living on down beyond the usual shot gun pellet signal. If you click on a pic once it goes through to flicker. If you click again on the pic it will go full screen if you want a closer up or to see more detail. Bingo....a sassy bit of gold. Then just heaps more shot gun pellet signals So I stopped for a coffee break before getting back into it. Half an hour into it I got a signal that lived on down a bit. The dig was into a top soil & not looking promising. So I went & got the GM 1000. It told me it was non ferrous so I carried on with the dig. I was just getting into crunchy schist gravels when the signal was out. So I placed a few handfuls of dirt over the Zed's coil until it nutted off. Whittled the target down to a light in weight item in my hand. Hmmmm I thought.....not gold but not iron either. I rubbed it in my hands to get some of the dirt off it. I then ended up with two bits in my hand. A piece had broken off. I passed the smaller bit over the Zed's coil & nothing. So I dropped it in the dig out dirt pile & waved the bigger bit over the coil & it nutted off. Couldn't see any gold in it & was thinking that maybe it was a piece of aluminum. Which seemed odd for this area. I didnt want to stick it in my mouth so I went back to my wagon, which wasn't far away, & got my bottle of water & gave it a wash. It was a gold quartz specimen piece. Choice but bugger. As I had dropped the smaller bit that broke off in the dig out dirt. As the Zed didn't register on it I got the Gold Monster on to it in the dig out pile. It sniffed it out & I gave it a wash up & it showed colours of gold. Ye Ha. Scanned the hole again with the Zed & the Monster & nothing. Scanned the dig out pile again with them both. Nothing with the Zed but got a hit with the Monster. Another small specimen bit. So two for the Monster & one for the Zed. The Zed getting the signal in the first place & the Monster cleaning up two more. Loving it. A couple of hours later & nothing more so that called for another time out & a coffee break. Another few hours & no more gold. It was just getting on to dark when I got a signal that again lived on down a bit. Into that lovely crunchy schist gravel & then the signal was out. Another little bit of gold. That was it for Saturday. So made myself comfortable in an old timers rock hut shelter. Cooked up a feed, had a coffee & hit the sack. Woke up to rain. Bugger. So was in no hurry to get up. Made a coffee at about 9.30am & cooked up some sausages, baked beans & toast. Another coffee, made up the thermos & then the rain stopped. I headed off to spot number 2. Rigged up & got into it with the Zed. Not even 5 minutes & a sweet sounding signal that lived on down. Just to the right of the bottom of the coil you will see a little grassy clumpy nub/crown from a tussock type grass that the sheep have chewed down. More on that in a minute. I was down onto schist bedrock & the signal was out. Backed up on the dig out dirt & bingo..... Sweet. No more signals. Back filled & carried on. One very slow sweep over that little clumpy nub of grass. Oh...what was that?? Oh...nothing. Changed direction & tried again. Oh...that was something...I am sure....Mmmmm....maybe not. bugger it. Tried again. Still not convinced. Got the pick & knocked that nub of grass off to ground level. Scanned again. Oh hell yeah...that is something. but Oh so faint. Scrapped away quite a bit more & yes...that is something & still in the ground. Again I got down to that schist bed rock & it was still in there. The signal was booming. Where the scoop is was where the first bit of gold came out of & back filled. Down 500 mm, 20 or so inches, & the signal was out. I was just about to get the Gold monster to pin point it & to see if it was ferrous or non ferrous. No need now & I could feel the weight in my hand. You bloody beauty. My biggest bit since last year. 3.62 grams. A beaut round ball chunky bit. YE HA.... Then it started to rain again but I battled on. A few hours later & nothing more. The rain got heavier so I went to my wagon & had a coffee. Thinking of heading off. I moved to the third spot which wasnt far away. The rain stopped so I thought I would give this area a go. It was the area where I had got nothing with the Zed on two previous occasions. About an hour into it I got a very faint whisper on another of those grass nubs. Knocked it off to ground level & it brightened up. Down on to the crunchy schist gravels & it was still in there. Suddenly it was out. Backed up on the dirt pile. Got the signal in my hand. Ended up with a dirty looking stone in my hand nutting off. Had a little bit of weight to it. Gave it a rub & saw the glimmer of gold through the dirt. Bit of spit & polish And.... Another whopper. Well whopper for me aye. 4.39 grams to be exact. YE bloody HA. Bit of quartz still attached to it. I wasn't far from my wagon. Hows that ground for detecting? Bits of quartz scattered about. Very low grass. just perfect. The rain came back in & I decided to head off. Had to pick Mrs JW up from the airport back in Queenstown & a 2.5 hour drive to get back. So...my best weekend for a longgggg time. 8 bits for 12.20 grams all up. Cheers guys. Best of luck out there JW
  18. 16 points
    I was up Madtunas way about a month ago, beautiful weather cool nights and around 25-26 C during the day. A few frosty mornings when I had to scrape the ice off the quad before heading off. I ran into Steve one day (going where even a mountain goat would think twice about), had a yarn and a couple of ales and garnered a little local knowledge and marked a couple of spots Steve recommended. Shifted camp the next day to an area Steve mentioned and picked up the bulk of my finds there, 26 grams so thanks for that Steve.
  19. 16 points
    Hi Guys, After a busy Saturday morning having a bit of a tidy up around the yard, filling up the trailer & doing a dump run Mrs JW was keen to head out down to the river or somewhere in the outdoors to chill out in the sun & read a magazine. MMMmmm.....I suggested how about we head to some old gold workings & you can chill out & read your mag in the sun there while I take the dog for a walk, mans best friend , the GM 1000. Mrs JW was fine with that....so off we went. I took the GPZ as well. We headed in to some shallow schist bed rock that the old timers had ground sluiced down to. Mrs JW got comfy on a flat slab of schist with her cushion seat & was in to her magazine. I headed off with the Gold monster. The ground was quite moist & the plant life & grasses had withered back quite a bit due to mid winter conditions. So good for detecting. I was getting my share of those pesty shot gun pellets thanks to rabbit shooters & the occasional hot rock. I was in manual 10 sensitivity, deep all metal mode & the GM's speaker on about 3/4 volume. The internal speaker is plenty loud enough & I find full volume is just too much. After about an hour Mrs JW was making noises, again, about how a cold wind had come up & can we head home. My protests of, We have only just got here. Feel on deaf ears. Bugger. Ok I said, just give me another few minutes. I headed over to some bed rock where I had snagged a few bits with the Zed on a previous occasion. Hoping there were some smaller ones for the GM sitting on or close to the surface. Got a faint little signal, Well not that faint as Mrs JW heard it & came on over. A few scrapes into the up on edge schist & the signal had moved. In to the scoop, whittled it down & on to the coil. Ye Ha, a sassy bit of gold for mans best friend. Well I relented to Mrs JW's plea to head home. One bit of gold was better than no gold so still not skunked with the GM 1000. I was happy with that. The next day I was keen to go further afield with the Zed & get some bigger gold than what the monster was getting me. I was well over due for a better gold fix. So put all my batteries on charge over night, Monsters as well. Woke Sunday morning & it was bucketing down. Damn, bugger, sh!t. There goes my detecting day. Fiddle sticks. So I killed a few hours on the forum & checking out some youtube stuff. Then about midday the sun poped out, still looked a bit susss though but I thought bugger it....I am out there. Was too late to go the further afield so I decided to go to a spot which was just past where Mrs JW & I had gone the previous day. It was an area where I had found quite a bit of gold with my GP 3000 & 4500 & also the Zed. I was gobsmacked at the gold I got there with the Zed knowing how well I done & how thorough I had been with the 4500 & many different coils. With the Zed I found more gold in the exact same places, just deeper & the gold no bigger. If anything, the gold with the Zed was smaller but the depth just blew me away. Some of you may recall that time when I broke the head off my old Walco pick on my very first target dig there with the Zed. So back to that same spot. I was keen to go over it again with the the Zed due to the damp wet ground conditions & the lack of grass & the thinned plant growth. Got there, rigged up with the Zed, Also took the little Monster. High Yield/Normal sensitivity on 10, soil smoothing off as always. B&Z external speakers up about 3/4 volume. Worked my way along with very slow coil sweeps, coil scuffing the ground. Got to the end of my first pass at the very bottom of this ground sluiced slope. The end was a spot where I had got a little patch of alluvial worn pieces back with the GP 3000 & 11" commander mono coil right down on the schist bed rock. This little spot now had an annoying briar rose bush growing beside it with its horrible thorny branches hanging over the exact spot. Due to the winter conditions & the lack of leaves on the bush I was able to get the Zeds coil under the branches & rubbing the coil on the ground was sure I heard a faint change in the threshold. So much so that I went back to my pack & got out a pair of pruning shears that always live in there. I trimmed all the briar rose branches back so I could get in there with my pick. The briar rose bush protested profusely & didn't let me off lightly. Lashing out at me with its thorny barbed tentacles ripping into my arms, drawing blood. But I fought them of bravely, coming out the victor. Scraped away at the grounds surface. The signal improved but still quite faint & not on to the bed rock. Hit the bed rock schist. Hacking in to the fingers of schist, like pages in a book, & the signal still sounding far off Getting down a bit now & the signal still in there. The picture doesn't really show how deep it actually is. Finally the signal was out. Can you see it next to the G on the coil. How small is that & how deep is that for the Zeds 14" coil? Unbelievable..... This might give you a better idea of the depth. The detectors shaft is about where the ground level was when I first got the signal. I then scanned the dig out pile with the GM 1000 & got two more bits of gold. So three bits of gold from the one dig. Note the pile of smashed out schist Here is a bit of video footage I took on my phone. It isn't that crash hot, it started to rain so I was rushing. On my return run across this slope I got another very faint hit on some bed rock that I had snagged some bits of gold with my 4500. You will see the exposed surface bed rock on the right & the fresh scrapes into the schist where the signal was coming from. Again having to really hack into it & not sure which crevice the signal was in. Ended up having to hack it right open. And then get the Monster involved with its little 5" coil to pin point the signal. It was coming from right down in that deeper crevice. Finally got it out. Again...look how small....& how deep. That Zed just blows me away. Things went quiet for a wee while but then I got a faint hit in a bank just a few yards further up slope from my first finds. Again....down in a schist crevice. .46 of a gram. The biggest bit for the weekend. That was it for the afternoon. So five bits for that day & the tiny one for the GM 1000 the day before. Total of 2.6 grams. My best for a while. Cheers guys. Best of luck out there JW
  20. 15 points
    I went out to Gold Basin last Sunday for a few hours. Covered lots of ground and was able to dig up 3 nuggets and a meteorite. Gold Basin is finally showing me some love. One was a nice 1.4 gram heart shape, and the other was a 2.5 gram specie. 4.2 g total. Chris
  21. 15 points
    It`s been pretty lousy weather here for the last few days, but I got out for a couple of hours today. This is my biggest piece in about 6 weeks and is my very first piece this year with the 19" coil 2.1 grams. Dave image upload free direct link
  22. 14 points
    Hi guys, Headed back this arvo for a few hours to where I finished off on Sunday. Took the Zed & the GM 1000. Even though it is the middle of our winter It is a good time to get out there. The grasses have have really withered back & so to have many of the weedy plants & bushes. Opens up quite a bit more ground & makes it easier to get the coil in to many spots that when the growth is rich & strong you have no chance. My first sweet signal was just such a spot. It was on the top edge of an old timers tail race that had been cut deep into the schist & the briar rose bushes had backed off a bit in the winter conditions. My prunning shears helped a bit too, but that was more just to cut an access way in to some bed rock schist that I had done well on in the past & had not had the Zed in here. Got a faint sweet signal between two briar rose bushes. Scrapped away the top soil until the schist bed rock was showing. Signal still in there so had to lay in to the dig a bit harder peeling out the schist. Here we go again. The beauty is that these type digs down into the schist are always gold. Signal finally out & a sassy bit of the good stuff. Moved on to another area that I had thrashed in the past. I got a faint but positive signal on top of some loose broken up schist that the old timers had dumped. These kind of signals are usually rubbish from the old boys. I scrapped away at the broken up bits of schist & to my surprise I was straight on to smooth worn bed rock schist. Had no idea there was any bed rock there. The signal was still coming from the bed rock but I couldn't see any thing. So I got the little Monster on to it. It read non ferrous. I couldnt see any gold so thought it was going to be a shot gun pellet. The bed rock was pretty smooth but I put the pointy end of the pick in to a small crack in the schist & raked it out. Signal had moved. Whittled it down in the scoop & yes....shoty pellet. Well I thought so at first & came pretty close to chucking it to the bushes. But it is in fact a little shot gun pellet size & shape of gold. You wouldn't think so looking at it in the picture. How small is that for the Zed. Incredible. I dont know why...but I headed over to where I got those 5 bits of gold on Sunday & went back over the same ground again. To my surprise I got a very faint whisper. Same old scenario. Scraped off the top soil. Exposed the schist bed rock Signal still in there but getting better. Smashing in to the bed rock schist Down in to a crevice The depth again with the Zed on a small bit of gold. Still blows me away. loving it. Signal out That was it though. 2 hours later & nothing more. Getting dark...time to head off. Three for .96 of a gram. Cheers guys. Good luck out there JW
  23. 14 points
    Summertime just doesn't get any better than swinging a beat-up nugget patch with old friends and new detectors. Shout out to Steve in Idaho and Shane; let's do it again soon.
  24. 14 points
    Well...that escalated quickly. You don't look at the forum for 24 hours and look at what you miss I am not paid or affiliated with Minelab in any way (I wish I was ) I've only been detecting for a year and have a pretty basic knowledge of detectors - most of the knowledge I do have comes from this forum and people like Steve, JP and kiwijw. I actually live in VICTORIA, Australia - you know, that place where the Gold Monster won't work I bought a Gold Monster. Maybe a bit of a gamble but I had my reasons. So far I've found about 7 pieces of gold with it in the few times that I've been able to get out. Again, by taking the time to read the info here and apply it to my local conditions it has allowed me to use a quiet, sensitive, light, user friendly machine. It has also allowed my eldest son to find his first ever piece of gold. It has also allowed a new forum member here (bhogg) to find his first ever piece of detected gold. Maybe my lack of previous knowledge has actually helped me - no preconceived ideas of what this machine should be able to do. How the GM can be described as a dog is beyond me. Unless of course they mean that it is 'man's best friend' The insults that have been leveled at some of this forums most informative and trusted contributors...that is even further beyond me. Please keep the informative, unbiased, funny and relevant reviews, hunts and general commentary coming - it is appreciated by the majority!!
  25. 13 points
    crush a fist size lump of rock and pan it off of cause
  26. 13 points
    Having used the GM now for 2 months on the Eastern goldfields in oz I think I can give a fair assessment of its performance so far , The machine is always set up as per JP, s preffered method and in my areas the sensitivity is left in auto normal as auto plus is just a bit noisy. Auto normal allows those smaller signals to stand out without the background falsing. Some of the YouTube videos of prospectors in oz pitching the GM against the SD show the operators using the monster with full sensitivity and scrubbing the ground trying to compete on performance and understandably suffering accordingly . As has been stated on this forum don,t try and turn the detector into something it's not ,instead trust the manufacturers have designed the machine to reach its full potential in auto mode . let's face it we wouldn't, buy a new car then rip the computer out and replace it with points and distributor. The GM is a vlf machine and as such suffers the same joys and pitfalls of the family it was spawned from . luckily we can use that knowledge to trust that the charecteristics we have learnt on previous machines still hold true for the monster. This brings me to the addition of the probability meter, that on this machine is a left or right LCD bar graph that shows ferrous to the left and non ferrous to the right ( nail or gold bar ) As on any vlf we know that as the machine has to balance ground noise effectiveness of the discriminator diminishes , so operators in lightly mineralised areas can put more emphasis on the accuracy of their discriminators than those in heavily mineralised areas like those in some parts of oz. I have found recently while detecting over ground that could be described as ancient high plateau gold deposits ( cemented river sand and quartz pebbles ) that my machine could easily find and give a good clean signal on a 2 gram nugget buried at 16 centimetres ( (about 6 inches) , but the discriminator was showing always to the left on the meter telling me it was junk , only after the piece was dug up and placed on the surface and waved within a few centimetres of the nugget was it showing as gold , for those in the states that's about 1 inch . So once again use your knowledge on vlf sound identifying methods for discrimination if you have prior experience with one ,and if your a first time buyer dig everything and till you learn the art yourself. Generally good signals give a nice clean chirp while the rusty iron items give a multiple or yawn type noise . As I say dig all if uncertain . So to sum up trust the machine to run in auto the way it was designed and in Oz stay on the conservative sensitivity setting until your confident you can run it higher without falsing ,or your gridding a rich area and can put up with it. Don't trust the discrimination , if it sounds good "DIG". The rechargeable battery lasts for about 2 full days of detecting that's great for weekenders . The shaft does tend to turn loose and is the reason some just buy a wooden broom handle as a replacement , I have found in oz our wood weighs the same as the supplied shaft. some people have mentioned coil falsing when knocked , however I have found this happen only when using really high sensitivity levels or when hitting large rocks . don't put the battery in the wrong way as it would be easy to break the the catches on the battery compartment lid , Enjoy your Gold Monster and above all persevere , be realistic and above all have fun on the goldfields.
  27. 13 points
    Hi guys, My first time out last Saturday since the Zed upgrade & since the 2nd of July due to family coming down to stay. First my eldest son, wife & 5 month old grandson stayed for a week & then my 2nd eldest son, partner & 6 year old grandson came for a week. I then did something to my left knee & could hardly get about. So I was off work for a week & it has now come right. Well...better. So Saturday I headed out to a well flogged spot of mine that I have already been over a few times with the Zed & had found some gold each time. With recent snow & rain the ground was quite damp & with the new download on the Zed I was hoping to get some more at a bit of depth. This time I took the GB2 with me as well & gave the Gold Monster a rest. On my walk in I came across an old galvanized wash tub, complete with briar rose bushes growing through its rotted out base. I did it real hard with the Zed. Skunked on the gold front . Did get a few crap targets & got a real nice faint signal. As I dug down on it, the signal was getting better all the time.....& deeper. I put the GB2 on to it & no signal. Hmmm...deeper still. Down two feet & a faint hit on the GB2. Dug a bit more & flicked in to discriminate....nothing. Bugger. down the depth of my pick handle, which is 700 mm (27.5 inches) & the target was out. An old gold ore small gauge tramway rail spike. No other signals, so it wasn't masking any nice faint gold signals...damn. In desperation to not be skunked for the day I went to some shallow bed rock that the old timers had ground sluiced down to that were now quite thick with wild thyme bushes. Top center you will see a gap between those two bed rock schist tors sticking up. To the left & right you will see stacked piles of rocks. They are the embankment of an old water race that ran from the left to the right. The gap is where they breached the water race & allowed the water to pour straight down towards the bottom of the picture. You will see bed rock schist to the right & left of the gutter/ditch now all covered in wild thyme. I did quite well here back in my GP 3000 days & the little 10x5 coiltek "joey" mono coil. The wild thyme was no where near as bad as it is now. No chance of getting the Zed's coil in amongst that stuff but ideal for the GB2. The GM 1000 would have struggled in max manual sensitivity on 10 & deep all metal mode with the touch/bump issue in amongst these bushes. The GB2 I could drive it flat out & no problems pushing that little 6x3 coil through the thyme bushes. Got a very faint hit. Couple of scrapes & it had moved. A sassy bit of the good stuff. Saved the day. Saved the skunk. A few feet away & another faint little hit & another tiny bit of gold. That was it for the day. Had a big walk back to the wagon so called it quits at that. Not a record breaking outing but fun all the same. One rail iron spike & the two tiny bits of AU. Total for the two bits .08 of a gram Cheers Good luck out there JW
  28. 12 points
    I purchased a Golden Mask telescoping rod with the intent of using it for my Deus HF elliptical coil. XP placing the battery in the trapezoidal lower rod section however made an adaptation more trouble than it is worth for something I am not sure I will keep anyway. I decided to repurpose it instead to the Minelab Gold Monster 1000 in an attempt to make it as easy as possible to collapse down and put in a rucksack. The arm cup removal is easy. Just remove the bolts. The grip/handle however is both screwed together and glued. Have to give them credit - beautifully made rod assembly. Some heat from a hair dryer and careful prying got the grip assembly off the rod. The upper rod is thicker than the standard rod diameter and so the neat little clamps Minelab includes with the GM1000 will not work. Instead standard hose clamps will serve until I get some that fit better. The upper rod is not quite long enough to get the proper spacing for the armrest, so this is a mockup until I find a short piece of rod the correct diameter to install in the upper rod for a little extra length. Roughly 30" long when collapsed. The coil needed to be shimmed with an extra rubber washer. I used the skinny little Golden Mask plastic bolt but will drill the isolator rod out to accommodate the Minelab bolt later. Near final product, with way more length fully extended than I need at my height of 5'11" but that is good for working overhead cut banks and poking around in the brush. Click all photos for larger versions. Once I get the rough edges finished this will be a sweet little backpacker unit.
  29. 12 points
    Next trip I headed up Wiluna way for a week then on to Meeka to meet up with a mate. Just the one little patch at Wiluna, nothing deeper than about 6 inches. Had me a little excited for a while but she dried up after about an ounce.
  30. 12 points
    Got out to the Sierras this weekend and found a 1g nugget (7000/14) on some tailings and workings. I tried for 3 days to find more but this was all I could muster while also doing some exploring. When I got back the tides seemed to be right so the night beach hunt was on for a couple of days. These are the best finds from about 6 hours with the 3030/17. There is one 9g/10k ring there so I can find more gold on the beach than in the mountains! The total change I found was about $12 and most of it right now is deep ... well over 6 inches in the tide areas. I don't hunt the blanket line/dry very often. Mitchel
  31. 12 points
    Hi Mike, Thanks, I do my best. I am biased of course, in favor of what works for me personally. I try hard though to keep an open mind regarding detectors as what works best for me does not define the industry. Anybody that thinks I have a brand name bias either does not know me well or is a fool. I use what works for me, period. If that happens to favor one brand or another at any time that is just because that is the way the pendulum swings, nothing more. Metal detectors for prospecting originally were just coin detectors with a different label. My first metal detector in 1972 was a White's Coinmaster 4. My next was a "prospecting detector", the old White's blue box Goldmaster. Even then I was curious about what made them tick, and my first lesson in detector marketing was that the Goldmaster had the same circuit board in it as the Coinmaster! White's just put the same board in a larger box and called it by another name. Those old machines were very poor since they could not ground balance, but even then prospectors found a large nugget now and then using them. It was not until around 1976 when White's unveiled ground balancing technology in the form of the White's Coinmaster V Supreme, probably the most significant breakthrough to affect detecting up to this day. The CM5 though was a very low frequency machine running at 1.8 kHz and not sensitive to small items. True story though is I owned one myself, and sold it to a prospector who promptly went out and found a nugget weighing several ounces with it. It was Garrett who really launched the modern prospecting metal detector era around 1980 with the 15 kHz Garrett Groundhog. The 15 kHz frequency choice was far higher than the 3 - 8 kHz standard of the day. This enhanced the sensitivity of the machine to smaller targets and combined with the ground canceling capability the Groundhog series was one of the first detectors to stand out in the fledging electronic prospecting rush just underway in Australia. The skyrocketing price of gold fueled detector sales, and soon reports of massive gold nugget finds appeared. All of the sudden all the other manufacturers wanted in on this new business opportunity. Photo - Garrett 15 khz ADS Groundhog in 1980, later rebranded as the Garrett Gold Hunter (click for larger version). Garrett employed the same basic circuit in several models all the way up to and including the 15 kHz Garrett Gold Stinger, only retired a few years ago. Still, many of the new machines of the day were just repackaged coin detectors. The next big advance was what in my opinion was one of the earliest prospecting detectors designed from the ground up for that purpose. It was even part of the marketing pitch "the metal detector engineered for one job". The 19 kHz Fisher Gold Bug introduced in the late 1980's timeframe. By 1990 Gold Bugs were everywhere, and the new lightweight design with compact removable control box mounted on an ergonomic (for the times) S rod was truly revolutionary. The dual stacked ground balance control and 19 kHz low gain design was excellent at ground handling and had good sensitivity to gold nuggets. In highly variable ground the manual ground balance machines left something to be desired, and this was most apparent in the Australian goldfields. In 1987 an upstart company in Australia introduced automatic ground tracking in the form of the Minelab GT16000. This was a real aid for prospectors in extreme ground and helped propel Minelab into view as an option for U.S. prospectors. For me personally in Alaska, with low mineral ground and small gold, the next big event was the introduction of the 50 kHz White's Goldmaster II in 1992. This large jump in frequency made the machine shine on small gold in low mineral ground, and it was the GM2 that really caused metal detecting for gold to take off in Alaska. I could not get them fast enough initially to meet the overwhelming demand, which I personally stoked locally with my own success in using the unit. By 1995 Fisher returned fire with the 71 kHz Fisher Gold Bug 2, which represents a high water mark of sorts in single frequency nugget detector designs. Still in production to this day, it is the detector of choice for many prospectors who choose to use a single frequency detector. However, increasing metal detector sensitivity to small gold by boosting frequency was not helping get large nuggets deeper in extremely mineralized ground. Engineer Bruce Candy shopped a pulse induction design around to a few manufacturers but U.S. companies were not impressed with its poor sensitivity to small gold and they thought nobody would pay the money required to purchase such a device. The Minelab SD2000 was introduced in 1995. I tried one on my ground in Alaska and could run circles around it with a Goldmaster 2 or Gold Bug 2. The SD2000 simply could not detector gold much smaller than a gram in size even if the nugget was touching the coil. I could not see why people would spend thousands of dollars for such a device. The answer of course was Australia. Large nuggets buried deep in highly mineralized ground, out of reach of the induction balance detectors. Massive amounts of gold were found with the SD in Australia, and savvy operators in the western U.S. took note. Soon SD machines were also being used in the worst soils in the western U.S. and pulse induction technology proved itself with its amazing ground handling capability. And the rest, as they say, is history. The big failing of the pulse induction machines initially was in small gold capability, but with each generation Minelab improved on this, to the point that now a Minelab SDC 2300 is very close to the best induction balance detectors for small gold sensitivity while having superior ground handling capability. Minelab developed such a large lead in pulse induction that nobody else was able to seriously challenge Minelab in this area. To this day they are the undisputed leader in gold prospecting detectors, this reputation built largely on the back of their pulse induction machines, culminating in the GPX 5000 and SDC 2300. This history points out two main areas where nugget detectors differ from other detectors. Higher frequencies to enhance sensitivity to small items, and advanced ground handling capability. The two things fight each other because making detectors more sensitive to small gold also makes them more reactive to the ground. Along the way though a funny thing happened. In the quest to make better coin and relic detectors, manufacturers started boosting the frequency and gain on single frequency detectors. In my mind the 14 kHz White's MXT was the first real crossover model, designed first for coins and relics, but quite capable of finding gold nuggets in moderate soils. It's superb ferrous handling made it the machine of choice in Alaska in tailing piles, where moderate ground and massive amounts of junk were hiding some larger gold nuggets. Pulse induction machines are by and large "dig it all" units and their power worked against them in the tailing piles by finding too much deep junk. The MXT while not as deep was better at pulling the nuggets out of the tailing piles while ignoring most of the junk, and for some time the White's MXT was the number one nugget producer in Alaska. Companies copy success, and soon everyone was producing detectors running in the 13 - 15 kHz range that were designed to "do it all". We are now buried in these type detectors from virtually every manufacturer. In the process the line between the dedicated VLF prospecting detectors and general purpose machines has blurred considerably. The 13 kHz Teknetics T2/Fisher F75 is another good example of this type of machine. The T2 really took of in Africa with its ability to hit gold nuggets well in moderate ground while dealing with hundreds of years of surface trash accumulation. Where we are now worldwide is a nugget detector market split into three major segments: 1. The dedicated single frequency, LF induction balance prospecting detector. These detectors run at 30 kHz and higher and are marketed as gold prospecting detectors. The best examples are the 71 kHz Fisher Gold Bug 2, 48 kHz White's GMT, 45 kHz Minelab Gold Monster 1000, and to a lesser extent, the 56 kHz Makro Gold Racer. Main features - extreme sensitivity to very small gold, affordability. Main weakness - ground and hot rock handling. 2. General purpose single frequency, VLF induction balance cross-over detectors. These detectors run from 13 kHz to 29 kHz and are marketed as do-it-all detectors. The best example is the First Texas 19 kHz Gold Bug/F19/G2 variants and to a lesser extent machines like the Teknetics T2, 14 kHz White's MXT, 18.75 kHz Minelab X-Terra 705, etc. Main features - general purpose capabilty and trash handling characteristics, affordability, slightly better depth on large gold than units in #1 above. Main weakness - ground and hot rock handling, slightly less sensitive to small gold than units in #1 above. 3. High power ground balancing pulse induction (GBPI) detectors. This area is dominated by the Minelab SD/GP/GPX series of detectors. Main feature - superb ground and hot rock handling capability resulting in near maximum depth on most gold nuggets. Weakness - affordability, weight, trash handling, and a lack of sensitivity to certain classes of small and dispersed gold. Disputes arise often when Australian prospectors mix with others from around the world due to a fundamental misunderstanding. In low mineral ground common around the world, particularly when dealing with small gold and lots of ferrous trash, VLF and LF induction balance metal detectors are still the machines of choice for many people. They are lightweight, affordable, handle trash well, and in low mineral ground they find the gold. This is hard for people who only detect in the worst soils to comprehend. In locations where ground mineralization and hot rocks impede the performance of the single frequency detectors, ground balancing pulse induction machines are dominant, with operators of LF and VLF detectors being at a severe disadvantage. The truth is both types of detectors have their place, and many if not most serious prospectors own both a pulse induction and a LF/VLF detector. They complement each other well. The Minelab GPZ 7000 really is something new. It in reality bears a closer resemblance in some ways to a super VLF as far as its operational characteristics than it does a pulse induction machine. It blurs the line between the two, and promises to do so even more in the future because in theory at least full discrimination can be added to the underlying technology. I look at the GPZ as being a crude first generation device that will undergo enhancement over the next decade or more. Other hybrid technologies loom on the horizon and eventually we will have detectors that combine most of the features currently available in separate classes of machines into single detectors, while advances in battery technology promise to bring the weight down. To summarize, what sets dedicated prospecting detectors apart is either extreme sensivitity to small targets (less than 1 grain or 1/480th Troy ounce sensitivity is now common) and/or the ability to handle the very worst mineralized soils and hot rocks. Yet due to technological convergence there are many crossover detectors available that can serve well for those who may only go nugget detecting once a year while spending the vast majority of their time hunting for coins and relics. For details you can always check out my Nugget Detector Review, which I update regularly.
  32. 12 points
    Thank you everyone for the kind comments. It does help make four hours of two finger typing worthwhile! It is very often the case when I lay hands on a new Minelab that I scratch my head and wonder what they were thinking about certain things. The initial impression can sometimes be underwhelming. Without fail however as I use them and learn them I become more impressed with the only thing that really counts - the ability of any new Minelab gold detector to put gold in my pocket. I strongly believe that all detectors have strengths and weaknesses. It seems to be a badge of honor for many people on the internet to focus on the weaknesses. In fact some people do not seem to consider any review of any detector to be legitimate unless it is liberally sprinkled with commentary about how the machine fails in various ways. That is just so easy. I can tear any detector apart. Pick any detector, and I could tell you how badly it sucks in various ways. Especially if I take the attitude that the only thing of importance is my needs, wishes and desires. The fact that what one person does not like may very well be just the ticket for a lot of other people is lost on the "Debbie Downer" crowd. People betray a small minded provincial attitude when they declare a detector no good when others around the world are able to use the very same detector successfully. I on the other hand take great pride in the fact that you can hand me almost any decent detector and I will go out and make it perform. I do that not by focusing on what detectors can't do but by determining what they do best and then leveraging whatever strengths they have to my advantage. This does often take some time and effort in using the machine enough to see where it really shines. I also think it is inappropriate for me to look down on anybodies choice in a detector model. I would rather try to genuinely help that person out with being successful with whatever detector that fits their circumstances in life, unless it is wildly inappropriate for the application. I have noted an unfortunate tendency on some forums for PI owners to basically rain all over VLF owners when they ask for help or advice, the answer often being "you wasted your money - buy a REAL prospecting machine". Oh really. That may be locally true but worldwide VLF detectors have produced and continue to produce tremendous amounts of gold. Long story short the Minelab Gold Monster is another detector that has grown on me the more I use it and become more familiar with it. I just seems easy for me to find gold with it. Yeah, it's a VLF with the limitations inherent in the technology but there are strengths also in sensitivity to the tiniest gold and in discrimination that can be very useful, and all in a simple, affordable detector. Certainly there are places where it will struggle and it is not for everyone, but for me at least and in Nevada in particular it is a sweet little detector.
  33. 12 points
    Hi guys, We are in about the middle of our winter so things are pretty cold & the grounds frozen up in the hills & mountains. Even if not in the snow the grounds are pretty hard digging. I went to an area that I have hammered with the Gp 3000 & the 4500 & done pretty well but hadn't been here with the Zed , GB2 or the GM 1000. You will see in the above pic those long thin dry/dead stalkey plants. I got in to it with the Zed first off & they were a real pain with the Zed to get a decent coil swing. Just had to negotiate through & around them as best as possible. Wasn't long in to it when I got a faint little signal. The ground was rock hard & the flat blade of the pick just skimmed over the top taking off the mosey grasses & that was about it. Had to drive the pick point in to make any head way. The signal out....a small bit of gold for the Zed After a bit of weaving & negotiating those stalkey plants I got another faint signal. Again I had to drive the picks point in to make any head way. Not long in to it & the signal had moved....but I couldn't find it again with the Zed. So I got the GB2 involved. Had the signal in my scoop. Whittled it down & I couldn't believe what I was looking at. In utter disbelief & astonishment.....I just couldn't believe the Zed had found that. In my moment of disbelief I didn't take a photo at the time. Here is a pic I took when I got home. You can now see my disbelief in the Zed having found that. So I re scanned the pile with the GB2 & got a much better hit. Swapped over to the Zed & yes got that faint hit. A damn shot gun pellet. So obviously the Zed didn't get that tiny bit if gold & I was lucky to have got it with the GB2. If I had of got the pellet first up with the Zed it was unlikely I would have involved the GB2. To cut a long story short, I got nothing more with the zed in the gold department. I was now in a bed rock area & so put the GB2 in to action. Running the GB2 in max volume through the external speaker, full max sensitivity, audio boost mode, & low mineralization. So running it flat out. I had done quite well in this bed rock with the GP 3000 & 4500 with my small to medium size coils so wasn't too surprised in the Zed getting nothing. Got a faint hit with the GB2. A few scrapes with the pointy end of the pick & the signal had moved. Ye Ha a sassy bit of gold for the bug. I then got in to a shot gun pellet grave yard. Oh the joys of higher frequency VLF's. Then the batteries got weak in the GB2 so I swapped over to the GM 1000. I went back over the bed rock areas that I had done with the GB2. I got nothing more there with the Monster. I was running the monster flat out in manual sensitivity on 10 & deep all metal mode, volume about three quarter strength. I then carried on to another bed rock area & got a good hit. A few scrapes & the target had moved. In to the scope....whittled it down.....& bingo. A sassy bit of the good stuff for the GM 1000. The sun was going down. It was damn cold & I had the usual longish walk back to my wagon. Gold found with each detector. One each for the Zed & the Monster & two for the bug 2. Total of 4 tiny bits for .21 of a gram. Wont be quitting my day job with results like that. Cheers Good luck out there JW
  34. 12 points
    Bought a GM 2 a couple of weeks ago. $120. Nice-looking unit, but had a tough time getting it ground balanced. Finally figured out the Sensitivity (gain) pot was shot. Every time I touched it I got loud howls from the machine. The pot is soldered into the circuit board, so I needed that specific pot. Couldn't find one on the 'net, so called Whites, with the intention of buying one. tech said...no problem I'll put one in the mail. No charge! So I got it yesterday, and took things apart last night and got the new one installed. Took about 1 1/2 hours. had a tough time getting the old one out (5 pins). Then had to drill out the holes with a #59 drill to allow the new one to go in. The rest was easy. Now I've got a nice backup unit for the GMT, and for a buddy to use when I'm out and about. Whites never ceases to amaze me with their service. Jim
  35. 11 points
    I have too many detectors and am slowly making my way to a "thinning of the herd" this winter. This is a very informal little test I set up today for no purpose other than to see if I can sharpen my opinions about which ones stay and which ones go away. The goal is a general purpose tackle anything I might run into while wandering the hills machine. Above we have, from left to right, the Minelab Gold Monster 1000 w/10: x 5" DD, Nokta Impact w/11" x 7" DD, Teknetics G2 w/11" x 7" DD, Minelab CTX 3030 with 10" x 5" DD, Makro Gold Racer w/10" x 5" DD, Makro Gold Racer w/10" x 5" concentric, XP Deus HF 10" x 5" DD, XP Deus 11" DD And below we have a bunch of common ferrous trash on right, including some problematic items like sheet steel, bolts, etc. plus a scattering of hot rocks. There are a couple nickels, couple copper pennies, and a dime placed in the mess, one of the five in the open as a comparison. The stuff is rather randomly scattered with the coins placed so as to be hard to detect but not impossible. I am as much interested in how the hot rocks and trash responds as I am in how the coins respond. My testing is non-scientific and only intended to help me sort things out for myself, but I can offer a few observations. My criteria are my own, but do include how the detector feels on my arm and how it sounds to my ear. This session is without headphones as I often detect in quiet locations and want a detector with good, loud, clear audio as provided by an external speaker. The Gold Monster and CTX 3030 are not on the chopping block, but just for more information. The rest are all VLF type detectors and I am trying to sort out which I may be happiest swinging away in locations where I may run into hot rocks or lots of trash, while seeking non-ferrous targets. Here are some random observations, few of which are new by any means. 1. The Gold Monster excels at pulling non-ferrous items out of the hot rocks. It balances the rocks fairly well in all metal mode but this mix of intense hot rocks can be a little noisy (still way better than most machines). The iron disc setting however just shut the rocks right down and still popped on the coins. Very good. The machine fails however as a detector in dense trash. I can attest that the GM1000 does very well with scattered trash. The dense stuff however is more than the machine can handle. The high frequency helps enhance signals on flat steel in particular plus you get peculiar ghosting effects, weak signals that sound like echos of the stronger signals. So while the Gold Monster is a good nugget detector, even in scattered trash, it is not, in my opinion, a machine for pulling non-ferrous items out of classic "carpet of nails" scenarios, like old burned down cabins. 2. The Nokta Impact does extremely well overall, though the number of settings options are a plus as well as a negative. Lots of possible options to fiddle with. My main gripes are the weight/non-compact design and the odd overload signal. It is tied directly to the volume control. As you advance the volume everything gets louder, including the overload signal, until you hit 8/10ths volume. From there on up the target volume increases but the overload signal volume decreases, until at full target volume you have next to no overload signal. People who go to full volume at all times probably wonder why their detector makes no overload signal. This gets mentioned in the manual but I am sure people miss it. Even at its loudest the overload signal is very faint to my ear. Why do I care? An overload is a quick hint that you have a flat steel item like a can lid or large bolt under the coil. The Impact like other Nokta/Makro machines likes to overload on shallow targets so running sensitivity low in dense trash (39 or lower) can be advisable, and you are not going to lose depth because no machine gets any depth to speak of in dense trash. I do like the ability to adjust the ferrous volume as a separate item in the dense trash. 3. The Teknetics G2, a Gold Bug Pro variant, continues to impress me by being really simple and effective. Best speaker volume of them all, it really bangs out. However, there is no volume control at all so it can be quite the noisy machine in dense trash. 4. The CTX 3030 is amazing in its ability to just shut the trash up. If flat steel is your problem, the CTX is the answer. Almost quiet as a mouse in the trash. Unfortunately and no surprise, the CTX also suffers the worst from target masking. The CTX is superb if it has room to maneuver, but it goes almost blind in dense trash like this, and is only so-so at best when it comes to finding the targets in the hot rocks. 5. A couple Gold Racers, one early prototype and one late prototype (more or less production). At 56 kHz the Gold Racer handles the ferrous better than I would expect, but it does tend to "light up" flat steel and such and is very prone to overloading in dense trash. Again, sensitivity 39 and lower can really help. Overall however the Gold Racer holds its own with the Impact and G2, especially at picking low conductive items out of the trash. The concentric does seem to help a little with ferrous trash and hot rocks, but not so much as I hoped. No real need for most people to have the concentric coil from what I have seen. 6. The Deus is a wizard in the trash but not by the margin I expect given how popular the machine is. The 11" coil seemed on par with the other machines (the 9" is no doubt better) and the elliptical overall has the edge over all the other options. But only by a little, not a lot. Flat steel and bolts that bother other machines bother the Deus also. I tried small coils on most of the machines also. They do help getting between the trash but obviously ground coverage suffers also. That being the case I was more interested in what the stock type coils did. If I was headed for the Sierra Mountains tomorrow and wanted something light to prospect for gold with, and some ability to deal with the ever present ferrous trash left by logging operations, I would grab the Gold Monster. It bangs on gold, handles hot rocks, and can deal with normal random ferrous trash. If I thought I might bump into an old cabin or camp I wanted to hunt however, it gets to be a hair splitter. For just shutting trash up the CTX is unbeatable, but it also suffers the most from target masking. If you just want a machine that shuts up unless a good target is under the coil, hard to beat, but a lot will get missed also. Good for low to moderate trash levels but in dense trash it is going to suffer, even with a small coil. I will generally stick to parks and beach work with the CTX. I have and continue to have a hard time loving the Deus, although it is the winner in the densest trash. The external speaker volume is very poor but for me the main problem is simplicity and priorities. I dream a lot about hunting old sites with lots of trash chasing a gold coin, but the fact is it is probably the type of detecting I do least. With apologies to the relic hunters, the stuff most people show on forums like the Dankowski forum would just go in the trash at my house. Gold, silver, and platinum in all forms (nuggets, coins, jewelry), plus coins made of anything else, sums up what I detect for. If hunting dense trash was something I did constantly the Deus would be a no-brainer, but as rare as it is for me to engage in relic hunting, something like a G2 does nearly as well from what I am seeing, or at least well enough to suit me. I like the idea that if my battery goes dead I just put another battery in the G2 and back in business. No separate charging of coil, controller, and headphone. As much as I like playing with complex detectors when it gets down to my detecting I do prefer simplicity. The bottom line for the Deus is I was hoping the 14/28/74 kHz elliptical might be as good as a 19 kHz G2 and 45 kHz Gold Monster combined. The Deus has the edge in the dense trash but the Gold Monster has an even bigger edge on the gold nuggets, so having my cake and eating it also all in one detector still involves compromises in real life. For a different perspective on the Deus HF elliptical coil from a hard core relic hunter see Keith Southern's review. The GM1000 and CTX 3030 are keepers for different reasons. I have not given up on the Impact and Gold Racer by any means though between those two I still get along best with the Gold Racer for my particular purposes. The Deus is really good at what it does best. The machine that impressed me the most does so by being so simple. The two knob G2 combination of lightweight, excellent ergonomics, loud audio, and simple but effective operation make it very hard for me not to like the machine. It is not "the best" per se but the G2/Gold Bug Pro still hits a certain sweet spot for me personally. For a trip into the hills to prospect for gold but to also hunt a cabin site or old camp, it is a toss up for me at the moment as to which I would grab, the Gold Racer or the G2. Gun to head right this moment, I guess it's G2. Tough call though. Anyway, that narrowed it down a bit and gives me more directions to pursue going forward as far as what to test and how. I will finish up again by pointing out I am not trying to prove anything to anybody but some of the observations may be helpful to some people - so there you go.
  36. 11 points
    The battery door of the Minelab Gold Monster 1000 has a loop of steel wire that acts as a safety to keep the door from getting lost. I needed a temporary fix for another problem and stole the loop off my GM1000. The wire loop looked like it might be handy for many things, and I vaguely remembered seeing them someplace. Finally tracked it down as a keychain or luggage tag loop. Picked up a pack of 20 on Amazon for just $7.49 including shipping. For 0.37 each it just seemed like something I could use in my tool box.
  37. 11 points
    Hi everyone Well I did buy a goldmonster 1000 :D Thankyou Luckystrikegold.com.au for all your help Now i havent done much with it yet. I don't seem to be able to detach my sdc2300 from myself Anyway My brother Tony has given it a couple of goes.. One spot he cleaned up what gold he could with his gpx5000 and sdc2300 He managed to find two tiny pieces with the GM1000 there. one piece of gold with each coil.. He found the Discrimination worked well.. although this monster will ping the hot rocks.. this spot was full of Hot rocks! It would tune some out after swinging a few times over the hot rock, some hot rocks persisted!! Tony found the more he used the GM1000 the more he liked it.. he said if the sensitivity is turned up too far It made the GM1000 noisy. He also found that at times if you swung too fast the GM1000 couldnt keep up. Was no problem though, just slow your swing speed down. :D As he was using it.. he noticed that he could tell what would be junk or not. Well almost :lol: those shotty pellets could even fool the GM1000 .. we think it depended on the shape and size of those darn shot pellets The rust at this other spot . we didn't put it in the thick of those tins and rust.. Bit of over kill the discrimination worked really well. Where there was the odd larger rusty can or flakes of rust Can you see the Gold?? More playing with it too be done.. would I use it full time.. no ... as i still prefere my PI machines The GM1000 Is another tool for cleaning up where we know there is tiny shallow gold to be had.. Its lightweight, easy too use.. Part 2 Hi all Well it was bloody freezing here yesterday.. the sun was nice, the darn wind cut through like it was coming straight off the south pole brrrrrr.. so we didn't detect lol Today we did though Took the goldmonster for a walk over near some of those tin cans and rust Going through the old timers camp.. as you know over time thier tin cans travel far and wide Tiny flakes of rust everywhere Plus there was an blacksmith at this camp as well.. horse shoes and nails I had first go with it We didnt have it in discrimination mode.. using the 10x6 coil, on mild ground, granite sand, greenstone, quartz, and the odd laterite.. also just watched the gold side of the scale. The sensitivity set at 6 It liked a button.. pellets.. A bottle top.. an old bit of a light When we swung it over the small bits of rust the scale went to the left.. so we knew it was junk.. We could see the rust as well lol All i could get was the pellets and rust.. oh and the button Then Mike had a turn Walking around through the old timers camp. Nope reckons thats junk. More junk.. more junk.. oh look a big piece of junk.. a bully beef tin lol Then he says.. have a different sound here... the gm1000 reckons this may be gold " i said it reckoned the pellets were gold as well lol" it was Gold alright this time.. he found his first piece of gold with the GM1000 today a point 2 of a gram I didnt take a picture of all the junk we dug up.. it loves those shotty pellets! So we have the old bit of a light, from a car i guess. Couple of bits of lead.. a button.. the bottle cap, and the gold sitting on top of it. I reckon for the $$$$ its not a bad little VLF machine.. it loves shotty pellets, actually all non ferrous ojbects. Lol I may find a gold sovereign one day! Cool..... I can only hope.
  38. 10 points
    Some of the yellow stuff... More to come the next ten days...... We are in ATTACK MODE!!!! An all out offensive.. :-)
  39. 10 points
    Found the pinpointer is not up to it, gave the Deus a go but it interfered (coil being on seeking RC) with the Z now will the Monster save digging those Z19 holes so big.
  40. 10 points
    Yeah days only early and you`ve just ruffled up my feathers JP....................................nah tis a lovely day so instead of being vile I`ll hijack the thread and show a bit of eye candy to follow up on that friendly challenge I made when I hijacked your Xmass thread. Got this speci out with Nurse Paul. Total weight 375gr weight suspended in water 96gr, got with another ML "dud", "dog" or whatever some call em. For me ML Magic
  41. 10 points
    OK, you got it. I'm sorry I challenged your critical thinking skills enough to cause you to run away.
  42. 10 points
    We see a lot of these situations. It seems the root cause is the ignorance of both the miner and the surface management agency. Put two entities together that don't know what they are doing and are at cross purposes in their agendas and extreme silliness can result. Not so silly once the miner gets the bill but the view from the outside can be incomprehension at how messed up these situations can become. Overreach by surface management agencies has become extreme in many areas. Sometimes these become as disconnected as a Forest Supervisor attempting to ban all mining in "their" forest (can't be done legally). There seems no limit to the arrogance or ignorance of some of these agency actions. But the agencies are not alone in creating these situations. We've seen miners submit plans of operation for stream sluicing by one man with a shovel and in one case a large prospecting club applying for, and receiving , a single blanket plan of operations on all their wet claims across an entire forest. It takes two to tango no matter how clumsy the dancers. I encourage miners to read and understand the laws and follow them, even to the extent of insisting that the surface management agencies comply as well. The law applies to all, it's not really a situation of "just do what the regulator says". Knowing the laws and your rights and responsibilities is just as important of a mining skill as panning or modifying your recovery equipment for best results. In this case the miner was rightly concerned because of the monetary penalty. We often see miners bullied off their claims when there is no penalty but the effort to say no! If you are a claim owner or operator I encourage you to push back when you know you are in the right. Be polite, respectful, business like and calm. Cooperate but educate at the same time. Avoid the phone and email and insist on a paper trail. Ask for explanations at every stage of your dealings and if you get a firm no ask whether the "decision is final". If you don't know what a "final decision" is you need to get more educated before you engage with a surface management agency. This may sound daunting but keep in mind that the odds of you winning a challenge to a surface management agency on a mining decision are right around 80%. Yep the agencies are really that bad at interpreting their duties in managing the surface effects of mining on the public lands. By knowing your rights and responsibilities and helping these agencies to understand their job in relation to mining you are not only keeping your mining plans right but you are paving the way for every responsible miner that deals with these agencies. Sometimes the enemy are us.
  43. 10 points
    This is VANursePaul on Dave's computer---- Well the day has arrived!!!! After a last shower and a quick brekkie... we finish loading out Looks like a 5 hour drive out to the area we are going.... bush track the last part...... We will get to see how tough the Subaru is today. It is an understatement to say I am excited... From the moment I set foot in AU I have been overwhelmed by the hospitality of all who have helped make this trip possible.. Wonderland?????----- Yeah mate, I'm soaking in it HH to all of you.... paul
  44. 10 points
    An expert detectorist with a crappy machine will still outdo a crappy detectorist with a cutting edge machine..... Just sayin....
  45. 9 points
    Thought I would post on how I modified a GPX shaft to make it a little more compact. I cut roughly 6" off the end and drilled 7 more holes in the shaft so the lower poll would go further up into the upper shaft. Now my Monster shortens up to about 30" and extends to 4 feet. I now have lots of adjustment options from extra short to full length. I also picked up an extra lower poll to keep the second coil mounted. Changing coils is a pet peeve of mine so I like to keep it quick and simple. I've been on 4 short hunts now with this setup and can't be more happy.
  46. 9 points
    If you do decide to go to the area some day, give me a shout on the forum here and I'll give you formal approval on a spot or two that you can play, keep what you find, just send me pictures. Happy to help someone with a new Minelab, lord knows enough have helped me over the years as I've owned them. Jen
  47. 9 points
    Northeast, you pegged it, you`ve joined our hobby, or is that our obsession with an open mind, your having a go. A positive open mind gets the gold, coins and relics in this magic hobby of ours as it does the fish or the hole in one etc etc in other hobbies.
  48. 9 points
    Well another day with the GM1000 My brother came over this afternoon and asked if he could have another go with the GM Sensitivity set at 6 ... all metal mode... 10x6 coil Working in the trashy area near camp He found his first bit of gold near our van Near this 40 foot hole We then left him to his detecting, and went back to a patch we are working. we thought it's time to get back to camp, as we saw the sunset.. looks like another great day for tomorrow Once back at camp Tony showed us how he went with the GM He said he was having a ball going through the trash.. oh my you need patience for that here.. lol The gold is on part of an old pocket knife.. 0.53 grams
  49. 9 points
    Because I have used the Gold Monster and it performs on my ground. Unlike you argyle I don't need to attack people simply because of differences of opinion on the performance of detectors. If it was just me you might have a leg to stand on but far too many genuine purchasers feel as I do. Nobody is making the GM1000 out to be anything it is not, which is an entry level VLF metal detector. You may have some experience but frankly you have no ability any more than Luke to offer opinions of your own without trashing others in the process. I never tried to prevent either of you from posting your own reviews. You are a small minded provincial thinker with no ability to see beyond your own narrow interests. Appreciate the feedback though, and wish you and Luke the best. You are however no longer welcome here. As for my motivations, etc. I have no secrets. Here is something that is way too long that I wrote up by way of explanation back in 2014 just to be clear on the matter.
  50. 9 points
    Still going and will for a while yet me thinks. I haven't posted much because of some of the ridiculous comments on another forum. Seems people want you to do a write up and show some finds, yet when you do they tell you not to? Even some sound and sensible advice like I should sell some to fly some guy I've never met over to help me dig it out and process it cause he's a good guy and good with a pan? Yep like that will happen. Anyway, still picking up what has shed and will be for a while yet, that's not including the hole which I've hardly touched. That I've just dug out all signals to down passed detector depth and filled back in and made it look like natural ground which was a job and a half on its own. 21grs from 4 hours work yesterday
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