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    This may not have much to do with the guy that ripped Judy but it does have a bit to do with shovels and the inferior Equinox I had an interesting day and started to detect in my honey hole this morning at a public facility I had permission to hunt at. I had a security guard come and tell me I had to leave. He said it was private property and I had to leave. I told him no problem but I had permission and I had dug over 300 targets in that area and never left a trace of where I had been. He said that's the problem digging in the grassy area and leaving clumps of dirt. I showed him where I had been the day before and asked if he could see where I had been and he said not interested. He said there was a guy out here with a shovel and it was probably you. I told him I don't use a shovel and he said the guy used a small T handled shovel and he left before I could talk to him. He said sorry but you have to leave and I said ok no problem, To those if you that use Sampson shovels in parks please don't use them. I know they come as a package deal from some dealers and they work well in fields but when any official sees them being used in a park they freak out. So I next went to the beach and hit a couple of places with beach chairs and loungers etc. I was walking back to my truck when some dude collecting cans from the trash approached me. He said my son found a million dollars with a detector and I said I doubt that because I am on to many metal detecting sites and I would have heard about it. He said he found it in Europe while stationed there. I said metal detecting is very popular in Europe as well and it's highly unlikely anyone found that much without others knowing about it. He said well his detector cost $1000 and he hunted in 40' of water in the lakes and seashore. I said ok that's my problem this detector is only $899 and is only waterproof in up to 10' of water. I said what kind of detector does your son use he said he bought it in Europe and you can't buy them in the US. I said if you know if he found that much in the water in europe I am surprised you don't have detector here in the US especially since we have 26 miles of beaches. He said my interest is collecting cans and helping keep the beaches clean. I had enough of his nonsense by then and as I opened my truck door I said I am wondering why your looking in trash cans when there is plenty of trash and cans on the beach.. I said I am on my way home to find a $1000 detector I can use in 40' of water. I chalk it up to the adventures of metal detecting.
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    Awesome IMHO 5.1g gold corresponds better with the 8" and 15" depths of an 800 and 7000 5g gold is a good score, congrats Mitchel 😊
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    Target id, tones, etc are just tools. Personally I would rather have tools I can choose not to use, then not have the tools at all. The Vaquero you set the disc control where you want it. Anything above the setting goes beep, anything under the setting is ignored. The problem is if the detector is wrong, no beep at all, walk past target. A detector with dual tones, for instance, will beep on everything, but high tone on everything above the disc setting and low tone on everything below the disc setting. By knowing about the rejected targets, you might investigate them more, get a better centered swing, and find its a good target instead. Tones can actually help keep good items from getting rejected. That's not to say there is anything wrong with "beep, dig" detecting. Different strokes for different folks!
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    Loads of people in the U.S. using the 5000 and other Minelab PI detectors for relic and beach detecting.
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    Simon, if you look at the Coinmaster 4 in the ad, you will see it had a standard rod and coil setup. The Gold Probe was a small 4" "coil on a stick" that substituted for the rod and coil. You were supposed to rig a sling or something for the detector. All this complaining about ergonomics these days - people got no clue! The Gold Probe was just a 4" coil, nothing special, but it's small size was supposed to help with finding gold. Problem was the detectors had no horsepower and no ground balancing. I still have a 1970s era White's Alaskan which is just a Goldmaster in a chest mount box which also has that Gold Probe plus another larger coil on a stick. Here is the 1976 ad copy but mine is a little older. I will post photos of mine one of these days - maybe take it for a spin!
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    No surprises there.The TDI like many PI detectors is weak on tiny gold that a hot VLF will hit. On the flip side a hot VLF will hit hot rocks and struggle on ground a TDI will handle with ease. The SDC 2300 can meet or exceed many VLFs in the small gold department, especially in bad ground, but it costs three times what a TDI SL does.
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    What I want to know is just where did the time go? This all took place yesterday. Steve thanks for making the change . I knew I done it but I was just going to let it ride. I don’t remember when but I got the coinmaster for my wife. I got her interested in coin hunting when she wasn’t looking I’d stick coins in the sand in front of where she was detecting. I never knew if she knew that I was doing that. The like part of detecting kick in for her before I went broke . Chuck
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    Kellyco had such a good launch getting the 800 out. I’d avoid.
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    With my previous detectors, the last few hunts here were anything but productive yielding no more than 2 to 3 non-ferrous targets. Despite a knee high Rye cover crop that I was not expecting, I was able to make a few finds from this heavily worked old home site. It was a quick hunt of only and hour or so due to the cover (I'll be back) but the Nox and I were able to come up with 7 non-ferrous including a 1895 IH penny. The button came up first and only 20' into the field from where I always park. This entire area leading into where the old home sat in the field has been gridded with every detector I have had in the last 12 years. Toward the end of the hunt I head off to the side a bit where numerous IH pennys were found in the past and the Nox did not disappoint. With a full walk around signal bouncing from 17 to as high as 21 depending on angle of approach and centered, out one popped from only 2-3" deep. The Racer 2 did well in this spot and all those finds were shallow as well. IH The 800 handled the iron here exceedingly well. Field 2 Sensitivity 20-21, Auto GB, recovery 5-7 depending on the iron and IB 0-1.
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    Wow NSC, A William III is a Stella find for Australia mate! I would have been stoked to find that one! I miss finding the UK stuff after being there for 15 years but feel fortunate to be living in an old area of the US. But I love this hobby and finding History I feel is relative to where a person is situated and means just as much 🙂 HH Sillllvar
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    I did it today ...............I unsubscribed so I think I am safe that Mr Roach is never going to find me here 😅
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    Nope they dont and probably never will Keyboard bravery abounds and some will type things that they would never have the courage to say to your face...especially after a few drinks or whatever. Roach might be an apt name. Look at the bright side - if everyone had an Equinox there would be a lot less for us 😉
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    I have now given thought to my measurements and weighed again with a fixed scale position. This took out the motion of holding and I now have a more accurate estimate. The dry weight is 691g. The water weight it 431g. This makes the estimated gold 5.1g without changing the sg for quartz. Who knows? Mitchel
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    You have a bit of a dilemma to deal with. Years ago I was in the same pickle and decided to soak a particularly interesting piece of monzonite with blade of gold showing in HF acid. This is what I came away with
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    Gold Prospecting with a VLF Metal Detector by Dave Johnson Chief Designer, First Texas Products & Fisher Research Labs March 2010 Edition This book explains how to use a VLF metal detector for finding gold. The author has nearly 30 years’ experience in the metal detector industry working for several different companies, and designed several of the most popular “gold machines” on the market. These include the Tesoro Lobo, White's GMT and MXT, and of course the Fisher Gold Bug and Gold Bug 2. Although the product emphasis is on the machines currently “Made in El Paso”, the features of competitors’ machines are also discussed. This booklet is useful no matter what brand of metal detector you use. pdf download 29 pages http://www.fisherlab.com/Hobby/davejohnson/DavesGoldbook-reders.pdf ready to print booklet version http://www.fisherlab.com/Hobby/davejohnson/DavesGoldbook-printer.pdf You can find this and many more useful free books on this website at the Metal Detecting & Prospecting Library
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    I have been mostly keeping my mouth shut about Multi-IQ and gold because I am operating more from a gut feeling than any direct comparative testing. Yet my use of the Equinox for nugget hunting and the tests I have done so far has me thinking that Multi-IQ is going to prove markedly superior to most VLF gold detectors currently on the market, and that it might possibly prove out to be the next best thing to a PI for larger gold at depth. It certainly has the hots for smaller gold. The old rule about single frequency packing more punch on gold than multifrequency may be something that Minelab really has made obsolete. Gold prospectors however have been inundated the last few years with quite a few machines all promising new edges in technology, etc. That being the case I decided to specifically lay low on that particular aspect of Equinox since it is clearly being marketed primarily to coin, relic, and jewelry hunters. It’s certainly not because I don’t think the capability is not there however - just the opposite. I think we will be seeing lots more posts like yours and Mitchels fairly soon Lunk. Thanks for posting!
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    That is weird for sure. You tried a factory reset?
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    This is the Ultimate Minelab Equinox 600/800 VDI Numbers and Tones video covering Rings and other Jewelry. I cover Platinum, Gold, Silver, Tungsten, Stainless Steel, and Aluminum Rings. Pendants, Earrings, and even go over various different style Pull Tabs. A lot of time was put into this labor of love Test/Demonstration video and hope it helps out new Equinox users. Make sure to also check out my video covering Coins. GL & HH
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    Walter, Walter, Walter ... you are hunting in Reno? How long ago was it you were at your parks that had lots of coins? STEVE could be your problem and not the NOX. Mitchel
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    Maybe some of the issues are coming from interference from your cell phone? Try putting your phone in airplane mode or just turn it off. I just went thru this issue and it frustrated the heck out of me till I realized what was going on.
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    Walter - First of all, hang in there. It is going to be a frustrating journey because you are being forced out of your 14-year XLT comfort zone. It is not going to be love at first sight. You apparently picked a tough site situation and without experience on the machine did not have enough familiarity with the machine to be able to tweak it to compensate for a tough situation (sprinkler pipe and few targets). The XLT and the Equinox are very different in their speed and range of target sensitivity so you can easily get overloaded by what the Equinox is telling you. I was coming from a Deus which is similar to Equinox in terms of speed and tonality (i.e., target dig decisions are based primarily off tonal cues rather than off visual target IDs), yet still am climbing somewhat of a learning curve. So despite your years of detecting experience, there will be some getting used to a different beast and that may take a few outings to get both your comfort level with the machine up and your confidence in the machine up. This will come with time and certain things will click. Couple of friendly suggestions. First - see if you can track down Steve H. and follow behind him. Lol. But seriously, grab some popcorn and try the following: Site Selection - Try taking the machine to a site you are familiar with, that produced at one point and preferably is still producing. Do not challenge the machine or yourself the first few times out. If you have no choice but to go to a hunted out spot, at least try to find a site that is free of other issues like plentiful ferrous and non-ferrous trash, nearby interference (power lines), and other similar difficulties that are normally fun to overcome when you are on top of your game but that you don't need to deal with when learning a new machine. Since you are not familiar with the machine, at least go to site you know like the back of your hand. Mode Selection - Pick the mode appropriate for the site and stick with that mode regardless of the results. By appropriate for the site I mean appropriate for the targets you want to find and that you are most likely to find at that site, not just the landscape. If you are coin shooting - go with Park 1 or Field 1 as those are geared towards hitting harder on high conductive targets. If you are going after primarily mid-conductive targets (gold, brass or lead relics, small jewelry, nickels) then you can go with Park 2 or Field 2 which are geared towards those targets. Note, however, the "2" modes are hotter and will hit hard on aluminum trash and small trashy objects which can be overwhelming. That is why I recommend Park 1 or the oft ignored Field 1 (because it is a two-tone ferrous/non ferrous beep mode) as the best "training ground" modes for newcomers to the Equinox and to fast detectors in general. Beach modes are also great learning modes (esp. Beach 1) if you are at a salt beach, especially. But since this is likely not the case in Reno. I would stick with Park or Field 1. Don't bother with Gold modes for now because they are a different animal with respect to tones (VCO-based) and you only need to learn one detector at this point. I am not kidding by the way about learning one detector. Each of the modes behave so differently, it is literally like you are taking out a different detector every time you switch modes. Folks have advised to not over tweak the settings. But I am advising you to not over select the modes. Pick a mode and stick with it. Learn it. Love it. It is a multifrequency machine after all, so even if you stick with one mode you will not be stuck finding only one type of target. So don't be afraid to use your "go to" mode at multiple different sites even if you are looking for different target types. Once you gain confidence, feel free to shift around and learn what the other modes can do. But if you shift modes every half hour out of frustration, it will be like running to grab a new machine every half hour. So avoid the temptation to do "Mode Hopping". Settings - Once you have settled on a mode. Your goal is to set your machine up to run as quiet as possible. Do NOT get into a reactive mode and start tweaking settings because you are not hitting targets. Adjust settings, if necessary, because the noise is keeping you from hearing the targets. Equinox is set up for success when you have maximized signal to noise ratio not when you have maximized signal gain. Here is what you do - Auto Noise Cancel - keep the coil in the air when you do this. If you have relatively mild soil - you do not have to ground balance because the machine is pretty forgiving if GB is not set precisely to match the actual ground phase, but I go ahead and do an auto GB (hold the accept/reject button and pump) regardless and let the machine zero in on the right GB reading, especially if I know the soil has some mineralization. Do not adjust recovery speed or Iron Bias from their defaults. Once you come out of the settings menu if the machine is still chatty, then dial down sensitivity as necessary to get rid of the chattiness. Don't be afraid to go low because the machine is pretty sensitive at the default and will still go deep - you need it to quiet down, though. Take Steve's advice. Once you think you have the machine running quiet then start swinging. If you are using a mode that uses 50-tones (Park 2, Field 2), you might want to adjust that mode back to 5-tones to keep from getting overloaded. The "1" modes default to 5 tones (Park 1) or 2 Tones (Field 1) which makes them a good starting point. 50 tones really gives you a feel for tonal nuances on targets so you may eventually want to go there but if you find it overwhelming, no problem just going with 5 tones or even 2 tones. Swing technique and Target ID - Use your test garden to gage the best swing speed for the recovery speed setting you are using. This may take a little getting used to. The faster recovery speed of the Equinox will tend to force you to swing perhaps a little faster than you are used to in order to get a good target signal response. You can, of course, overswing and also not get a good response but you should practice and listen to what good targets sound like and get to the point that you can just wiggle the center of the coil over them to get the response you need. Listen to the good tones and bad tones. Dig probable junk to verify your suspicions. This will build your aural muscle memory and get you use to the tones. Rely on target ID to back up your tonal ID and look for target ID bounce indicating likely junk. Also, make liberal use of the All Metal Horseshoe button to interrogate a target and listen for iron tones which may indicate that the tone you are hearing is iron falsing. Now I will say the depth meter has been reported to be a little wonky - I don't use a depth meter anyway so I am not missing it on this machine, but there does seem to be a love-hate relationship with it amongst Equinox users and the pinpointing feature is also a little quirky, but I have gotten used to it and like it not because it helps me pinpoint the target better (I use the wiggle off method primarily) but because it is a non-motion mode that gives you some good audible information on the target to help determine relative size and depth. As you gain confidence in your abilities with the Equinox you can start tweaking other settings, but don't do it without a purpose (remember - the key is getting rid of unnecessary noise or falsing, but it is always a balancing act against losing target depth or inadvertently missing a target due to overfiltering - e.g., overuse of iron bias). The default settings are good for 80 to 90% of your detecting situations. Also, you may gain some insight based on what you wrote above. In one post you said you went through all the modes, you tweaked recovery speed and iron bias, you dialed down on sensitivity. In the next post you said all you did was switch modes and left the settings at their defaults. So there may be a little new machine confusion going on. To ensure you are starting at the default settings for your next outing, you may want to take Bill's advice and do a factory reset. Again, Walter, hang in there and stick with the machine for awhile. It will grow on you after a bit, you just need to snag a few keepers to gain confidence in the machine. Once you get on a roll, you will steadily climb that learning curve. But the best thing you can do is minimize the variables that force you to take backward steps. Good Luck and Happy Hunting, sir.
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    https://www.minelab.com/anz/go-minelabbing/treasure-talk/recovery-speed-target-masking Great write up Steve, thank you for your time and all the effort spent trying to help us learn the secrets of the Nox.
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    Lots of great commentary here, and I apologize for being late to the game since I was addressed specifically. What we have at work here is something Minelab is never going to discuss in great detail. There really is some magic at work in a Minelab multifrequency detector, and for a very long time almost everyone has been missing what is really going on. The focus is always on frequencies, and more specifically transmitted frequencies. Minelab has catered to all this with their marketing touting the number of frequencies. Good marketing but also misdirection to protect proprietary information. The fact is transmitted frequencies is only a small part of the big picture, and some competitors have called Minelab out on this by pointing out that detectors can transmit all kinds of frequencies. In a poke at Minelab Garrett was quoting the Garrett Infinium as transmitting 96 frequencies, which is sort of true as a PI detector is like a transmitting shotgun. Anyone can scope detectors to determine what they transmit, and if that is all there was to it the Chinese etc. would have ripped Minelab off ages ago. As it is they can only make detectors that look like a Minelab. The real secret is in what frequencies the detector is receiving and even more importantly yet, what sort of signal comparison and algorithms are being applied to the received signals. All the real magic occurs on the receiving end and very specifically in the signal processing. Now for those that don't know it Minelab founder Bruce Candy* actually is an expert in audio processing and holds patents in that field as well as having founded another company, Halcro, that specializes in distortion free audio amplifiers. And that my friends is the Minelab secret. Distortion free audio amplification. Using signal processing technology to eliminate as much unwanted signal (distortion) as possible and then amplifying the desired signal. It is very telling that the Minelab BBS patent expired long ago and yet we have not yet seen a third party BBS machine. Why? Because the patent does not reveal the exact processing methodology and so it is not a matter of just reading the patent and making a BBS detector. So what's going on in there? Single frequency detectors really do treat ground balance as another sort of discrimination method. Ground signals are part of the full target id spread or phase chart (see below). Basically the ground signal is determined by some method, like bouncing the coil over the ground (ground grab), and then this ground signal simply subtracted from all other signals. The best explanation and diagram I have ever seen of this was done by Carl Moreland on pages 1-3 and 1-4 of the V3i Advanced User's Guide. Pretty simple really. The problem is that a single frequency can only set one ground balance point at a time. It can balance to minerals for instance, or it can balance to saltwater. As can be seen in the chart above from the link above, soil and salt normally read in completely different parts of the phase chart. Fisher and Minelab both solved this problem at nearly the same time so I will pass on who was first. The Fisher CZ-6 and Minelab Sovereign both came out in 1991 and both employ multifrequency to solve the ground versus salt problem that foiled single frequency detectors on saltwater beaches up until then. Multiple frequencies can have multiple ground balance points and this is one of the major advantages of multifrequency, and why multifrequency rules in saltwater detecting. For a detailed explanation of how this is done see the three videos below where White's engineer Mark Rowan explains all this - really fabulous stuff. The real meat starts in video 8 at the 4 minute mark but video 7 does have some parts worth seeing. FYI the DFX employed multifrequency technology licensed by White’s from Minelab. My belief is Minelab had already come up with better stuff in BBS and so had no problem licensing a more basic version to White’s. Therefore studying the DFX does have bearing on Minelab’s thought processes regarding multifrequency. What all this means is that Minelab is using frequency comparison and signal analysis to do most of the heavy lifting of ground rejection/ground balance. It just happens automatically as part of the signal processing. This is why when the Minelab Explorer came out there was no ground balance control. In most ground there is no need to ground balance because the processing already removes the ground signal. However, it is not enough for the worst ground. This great article by Nenad Lonic explains the differences of the BBS/FBS detectors on bad ground. Later models added the ability to ground balance for extreme ground conditions. After all that you all should be seeing the picture. Minelab is not discouraging people from ground balancing per se. It's just that in mild to moderate ground there is no need - the signal processing already does the trick. Yet in more mineralized ground you absolutely should be doing at least a ground grab. I always ground balance my Equinox because I am almost always on bad ground it seems. No matter what always ground balance anytime you go to a single frequency mode because you no longer have the advantage of the multifrequency processing. I have made mention several times that every search profile has its own ground balance and so it is critical in bad ground to ground balance each search profile separately. Again, in milder ground just leave it be. How to know when to ground balance? In any mode, hit the horseshoe button and detect over metal free ground. If you get lots of puttering in the -9 and -8 and possibly -7 area that is the ground signal as is shown in the phase chart above. This is another reason why running full tones (no items rejected) can be beneficial as you do hear the ground signal. You might eliminate that signal by dropping the sensitivity a notch or two. But if it is persistent it does indicate you probably should be ground balancing the detector. Even when you notch out this region the ground signal is still there and so trying to get that negative range to settle down is the best bet for most people to help eliminate ground masking effects. For shallower targets you might also ground balance, then jack the sensitivity up and block out the negative numbers. This will make shallow targets like perhaps small gold nuggets pop but does risk deeper items going missed due to ground masking. Ground balance numbers in single frequency detectors are normally related directly to the phase chart above but it is critical that people know that a ground balance number does not tell you how mineralized the ground is. I have written a very detailed article on this subject. The reality there is that the phase chart and ground balance numbers only really equate for a single frequency detector because it should be obvious that if a multifrequency detector is balancing to the ground and to saltwater there are actually two ground balance points. How do you represent that in a meaningful way with one number? This goes back to the fact that Minelab is not really working directly with each frequency but instead with post processed "channels" that represent the information streams from multiple frequencies. The latest Treasure Talk blog on Multi-IQ makes this quite clear. This means that the various search profiles and even the various frequency selections all can produce quite different ground balance numbers on the same square foot of dirt. The numbers are tied more to the underlying signal processing and there is no attempt being made to "normalize" the ground balance numbers. This is why in bad ground you must ground balance each profile separately. The numbers to some degree are an arbitrary construct by Minelab and people trying to compare them as an indication of ground conditions are at a minimum going to have to relate the exact modes/settings in use for any such comparison to have any validity at all. And frankly I don't think even then there is any real point in comparing ground balance numbers. Again, just checking ground feedback with all target id numbers set to accept (all metal horseshoe in effect) will tell you more about ground or salt mineralization than ground balance numbers. For more on detector frequency use see my article on Selectable Frequency And Multiple Frequency * by Bruce Candy:• Co-founder of Minelab.• Pre-Minelab: designed advanced communication electronics (linear HF transmitters, VHF radar transmitters and receivers, ultra fast-frequency hopping etc), ultrasonic cleaners, fast photon counters, light detection.• Designed concepts, analogue electronics and discriminator algorithms of Minelab detector (e.g. GS15000, GT/FT/XT. Eureka Gold series, Musketeer, Sovereign, PI units, Explorer series, Excalibur).• Designed Halcro audio amplifiers.• Holds patents in metal detecting and audio fields.
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    I had a Tesoro Vaquero for a while and thought it was a great little detector. At 14.5 kHz and with manual ground balance it is also a halfway decent gold nugget detector.