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  1. That is just mental torture looking at that and to think I have tens of 1000's of those on my site, let alone the crown caps
  2. Yes you are correct, its a modern festival site so there are only modern square tabs on there. I have done over 1000 hours on there and only ever found 2 gold rings. I used to dig everything above and below the square tab, but I gave up digging the lower signals now. Its just not worth it. I have found 100's of silver rings etc but only the 2 gold rings, young people just don't ware gold, Yes most square tabs are 13/14 but a high percentage are 15/16 which is the problem.
  3. This is exactly what I am talking about, on other machines you will tell them apart. The Deus for example, Beer can square tabs 48-52 Uk 20p coin = 55/56 Euro €2 = 68-70 Other Euro coins, old UK £1 an £2 = 70-79 Crown Caps = 82 and up. The Equinox puts everything above in a small range 15-22, worse still, tabs, crown caps and €2 = 15-16???. They just seam to have crammed a whole VDI range into 2 VDI numbers??? What do the £1 and £2 ring up on the Equinox? I dig quite a few UK 20p coins, 99% I know what it is before digging, I only dig them just in case it might be a gold ring. Its the same for all other detectors, ie Fisher, AKA, Rutus, Garreth Whites even other Minelabs, I have used there, not just the Deus.
  4. Yes we did notice that Park!/Field1 was best, it makes me wonder should we have being looking at the beach programmes now since they have an even lower frequency bias? Does Beach1 have a lower frequency weighting than Park1?? I know Beach2 has a lower weighting but transmit power is lower in Beach2?? Yes I could end up with a machine I also hated but the question is will it get the job done in this particular situation? I all ready know it will do a better job in most cases but this one situation is a deal breaker for me, so much so I will sacrifice all other types of detecting for it, hence why I am stuck with the awful French thing. We wont give up, we will put the nox through its paces and if it can be done it will be done.
  5. The thing is on all other detectors I have tested I have not had these problems with these specific type of targets. The VDI range for Euro coins (not counting the low value copper clad) is very tight, square tabs off modern beer cans are notably lower and crown caps are notably higher. Yes you will get exceptions to the rule but in general that rule applies to most detectors. With the nox everything just seams to grouped together in that mid range area.
  6. This is exactly what I was hoping to do, we will do a lot more testing to see if it can be done in our case but as they are so close I don't think it will be possible. Maybe we will just have to dig a certain amount of junk and then compare results to other detectors. Coins at the festival sites are not that corroded.
  7. I know exactly know what you are talking about but the particular make up of the €2 coin makes it sound junky on most machines and thus VDI identification is a must. Just look at what changing the frequency on the nox above does to the vdi of the €2 which is very like what happens to crown caps.
  8. Not really Steve unless you want to join a specific brand forum and make 500 posts you can make/see posts on other brand detectors. I don't really do other forums any more but it has being reported on the Equinox Users group on facebook, I also had 3 different people pm me saying I will not be happy with it with my type of hunting and no I will not name them. As for the UK, they are not in the Eurozone are they? hence why I was asking had any one tested the response to the new £1 and £2 coins, both of which are now bi-metal and fall into the same range on other detectors. Its not rocket science, the €2 at the best of times gives a junky signal and according to the VDI chart published by Minelab the €2 has a VDI of 16, all that has to be done is test some square tabs and crown caps. Don't get me wrong I am very impressed with the Nox as a relic hunter. Not all bi metal coins have the same junky signal as the €2, the €1 is rock solid, I am just wondering about the new bi-metal UK and Turkish coins also. If it has not being reported up to now, well it is now, right?
  9. Its a toss up between the Deus and the Rutus Alter 71. The Rutus has slightly better id capabilities than the Deus but the ability of the Deus to lock onto and pinpoint a target trumps the Rutus. The best detector, id wise by a long shot was the CTX but it was just to slow and heavy.
  10. I actually hate the Deus and only have it because its so light and fast, when digging 500+ targets a day its a must. I was really looking forward to the weight of a Deus with the id capabilities of the CTX. To say I am a little pi'ed off would be an under statement. Just what they thinking making them all have the same VDI is beyond me??? Thank God I did not pre order one, I just cant afford to have multiple machines, as it stands I don't have a beach Id machine or a prospecting vlf. The nox sounded like the perfect solution. From what I have heard a lot of Euro coin hunters are not happy at all. Steve you are always saying Minelab will read good posts so here go's. Minelab, the 2 most modern common trash items producing the same VDI as a €2 coin, the premier coin for over 350 million people, just what were you thinking of?? Were there one testers in the Eurozone?? If I am coming over as anti Minelab, I am not, I am just pi'ed off.
  11. Here is a chart a friend sent me of VDI's produced in Field2 which prompted me to do some testing, the fact that square tabs fell into the €2 range also, in multi, horrified me.
  12. I have not bought a Nox yet and only have minimal time on a friends machine but have seen what it can do along side me. It has impressed me as a relic/hammered coin hunter, I have seen a lot of deep targets of all sizes and conductivity come up, especially coins on edge that other detectors just missed, I am very impressed in that respect. Where I am not impressed at all is modern coin shooting. Euro coin hunting and in particular the VDI's produced in multi for a €2 coin conflicts with a a lot of modern junk. Unlike all other detectors I have used, including the CTX, in multi, the VDI for a €2 coin is 15/16, crown caps are producing the same VDI and even worse still square pull tabs of beer cans, like Heineken cans produce the same 15/16 VDI. Most festivals over here are sponsored by Heineken lol. This was observed in Park1/Field1, in Park2/Field2 things seam to only get worse. Using the Nox in 5khz helps where crown caps rise up to 28/30 and the €2 rises up to 20/21 and every thing stays the same. Problem solved, well no, in 5khz you cant tell the difference between a 10c euro coin and €2, thus a lot of time is wasted digging low value 10c coins when I could be concentrating on higher value coins apart from the fact that 5khz is not the optimal frequency for mid range conductors the Euro coins are. This might not be a problem for most people but as festival site hunting is a big part of my livelihood its a problem for me. Looks like I am stuck with the cute little French thing unless Minelab are planning to spread out the VDI range in a future date???? I have not done tests on UK £1/£2 coins yet but as they fall into the same range as Euro coins and they are bimetal, I can see problems as well. How are the park hunters in the US doing??
  13. Again we are in a total different market, its all about how will it compares to the cute little French thing over here lol, but I think this is exactly what Minelab had in mind with the Equinox.
  14. I for one could live without the wireless headphones and the wireless module as I plan on using aftermarket phones, what I cant do without is the advanced settings on the 800 over the 600. One thing we have to remember is we are living in completely different markets, the price point is more favourable for the 600 vs 800 in North America compared to Europe where the 600 comes in at €795 (£679, $980) vs €1000 (£879, $1232) for the 800. With prices like that the difference is not as pronounced as in NA, and we are not talking cheap machines anymore.
  15. Time will tell but there are not huge waiting lists for the 600 is there? Tells me that most people want the 800, not the 600 and why would future sale be any different?
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