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  1. Video - MX7 Features Explained

    There is finally a page on White’s website dedicated to the new MX7 https://www.whiteselectronics.com/product/mx7/?lang=us And a new video with Steve Howard showing the various MX7 settings options.
  2. Tom from White’s made a statement that the color of the MX 7 had to do with the day it would hit the market. All know that we see orange everywhere on Halloween. Now with that said will it hold true on the hint that Tom drop. Maybe it could be what Halloween is all about and that’s Trick or Treat. Intil tomorrow when we’ll all know. Chuck
  3. Availability mid-November. MSRP $599.95 (MAP $549.90) White's MX7 Owner's Manual 13.8 kHz, 3.6 lbs, 9.5" concentric coil (compatible with existing MX Sport coils). Six preset programs (Coin and Jewelry, All-Metal, Beach, Prospecting, Relic, and High Trash) and easy-to-access Threshold, Gain, Ground Balance, and Pinpoint modes. Pressing the Options button accesses more controls, with user-adjustable Volume, Threshold, Depth Units, Backlight Level, Frequency Shift, Salt Track, Program, Self-Adjusting Threshold, Iron Grunt, VCO, Reject Volume, and Discrimination Mask. IP 54 rated - dust and water-resistant. Images - click or double-click for larger versions...
  4. The following is a compilation from my Rutus testing and useage. Very long, but anyone wanting some info, this here may help folks. Btw to my knowledge currently no dealers for this detector line in USA. They can be purchased from abroad. The Rutus Alter 71 may not be very well known, but make no mistake a very good detector for what they cost. There is some comparison info too with other detector models. Enjoy Overall weight and feel of unit is IMO nice,,not heavy feeling. Both coils. Btw. Concentric measures 8.125" outside to outside diameter. Supposed 11" dd measures 11". I even with little time I have run this unit,,this unit designed to be a Deus killer for the $$$. Question is, is it?? Using concentric coil user likely not to dig steel bottle caps, hodograph paints a good pic of junk target,,a backwards C in the meter. Haven't tried DD coil yet to see what happens here. Depth is dependent on mask setting,,meaning for fringe depth the lower the better. Interesting how they gave a user options here to have their targets ID in the meter. Three choices real-- ID is directly reflective of frequency run and conductivity of target. Then 2 other options,,you can select either 6khz or 12khz for target ID normalization. So with saying all this here is some data using each of the above selections for target ID. I should say the Rutus uses a different scale when comparing to most other detectors-- 0-120. Some data Real ID option selected and frequency selected on detector at max 18.4khz Nickel....79 Clad dime..110 Zincoln penny..103 Copper penny..110 Clad quarter..114 Normalized setting of 6khz selected,,detector still set to 18.4khz Nickel..52 Clad dime..94 Zincoln penny..80 Copper penny..94 Clad quarter..105 Normalized setting of 12kh selected,,detector still set to 18.4khz Nickel..66 Clad dime..105 Zincoln penny..95 Copper penny..105 Clad quarter..112 Frequency changed on detector to 7khz,,real ID option selected Nickel..55 Clad dime..99 Zincoln penny..86 Copper penny..99 Clad quarter..107 Frequency still at 7khz,,6khz normalization selected Nickle..54 Clad dime..98 zincoln penny..85 Copper penny..98 Clad quarter..107 Frequency still at 7khz,,12 khz normalization selected Nickel..68 Clad dime..108 zincoln penny..99 Copper penny..107 Clad quarter..112 Preliminary test using 3D test with coin and nails,,detector seems above average with what I see,,,Deus like results,,,not giving either detector yet no advantage,,with time maybe. Audio,,,Rutus audio not as smooth as Xp Deus,,not as blendy sounding,,leans more toward what I call beeps. This is not meant to say Rutus audio is terrible or anything. I am still trying to nail down how I want my tones set up using the user programs,,,not there yet. Does take time though,,user must select each number TID wise and singularly adjust,,,no blocking of groups of tones to adjust. I do reserve the right here to correct anything I say about this detector in the future. From what I can tell right now,,Rutus will retain settings when turned off. Turn back on,,user will need to ground balance though. Also what ever you have selected,,this is where the cursor will be when you go back in and open menu-- not sure if this happens if you turn detector off though. Now,,here is where other manufacturers like White's should be paying attention,,Xp as well. I have read countless Internet forum threads and post associated with just when does the White's V3i and even the Vx3 model need to be ground balanced. Rutus depending on what you change setting wise will give you ground balance prompt. This is exactly what White's should have done on the 2 models I mention here. Xp Deus,,you change freqs,,ground balance doesn't carry over,,should be a prompt.. Now detector companies,,if they do this for future models,,,they could offer a way to override the prompt,,so it doesn't appear in screen. This might be more handy for someone say who is more experience with the detector in question. Emi,,this detector ranks right up there as being one of the quietest I have run for Vlf,,,even runs as quiet IMO as CTX and etrac,,and DST Fisher units. Now this from judging in 2 different places with loads of light wires,,and a few transformers. I should also say,,this concentric coil I received with Rutus is the very first one I have ever owned,,I did run a gents White's XLT with concentric some 6 years ago for around 15 minutes. Navigating around using Rutus is different,,but not hard,,just gotta get used to it. Unit seems to ground balance nicely here in my soil. More to come.
  5. I missed this video when it came out. It is well done however so I am posting it now - better late than never! Slick little detector for only $349.00. Fisher F44 Owner's Manual
  6. Hi All, Relatively new in coin detecting. Heard about this detector. Anyone using it so i can get some advise please? Thanks GoldEN
  7. It changes constantly but right now that would be the Bounty Hunter TK4 Tracker IV Metal Detector Only $91 and actually pretty highly rated. We always tend to obsess over power on the forums but sometimes it is good to realize the bulk of the market is made up of people with fewer ambitions than most of us. I assume a lot of these are just something to put in a box as a gift for a child. Before people laugh and say this is a toy, the fact is the Tracker IV completely blows away my very first detector (1972 White’s Coinmaster 4) for power and features and about a third of what I paid decades ago. Rugged metal detector ideal for detecting treasure in extreme ground conditions Motion All-Metal mode, Discrimination mode, and 2-Tone audio mode Preset ground balance neutralizes response to mineral content in the ground Disc/notch control distinguishes between targets and unwanted metals Rugged metal detector ideal for detecting treasure in extreme ground conditions Motion All-Metal mode, Discrimination mode, and 2-Tone audio mode Preset ground balance neutralizes response to mineral content in the ground Disc/notch control distinguishes between targets and unwanted metals Ships in Certified Frustration-Free Packaging
  8. Have been reading about the Italian Company CEIA , supplier of many styles of detection , ground , food etc . Their more basic models : i.e. MIL D1 and CMD are obviously for mine detection . My question is how would they perform as civilian detectors on coins and relics and gold nuggets . Most probably a complete nieve question , that just hi lights my limited knowledge . Cheers goldrat
  9. One of my early vlf prospecting detectors , it's a minelab but I can't find any history on the unit . It was one of the first units to offer a high and low mineralisation switch and a ten turn GB but not much else , it was converted to hip mount hence the fox like plug where the handle would normally be , there's no information on it on the Minelab site. So if any body remembers it they might be able to fill in the gaps on specs etc.
  10. Gold Found With QED

    Couple of bits found with the QED & Detech 11" Ultra Sensing Mono. Hopefully the first of many!
  11. My White's 5900 Di Pro

    Steve, It is funny you say about a BFO machine late last year I bought an old Whites 5900 Di Pro Plus that had never been used, the owner had bought it and put it in his loft and then bought a waterproof detector so this one got forgotten about, anyways I bought it and I put batteries in it and fired it up and It has brutal power and it has a threshold that is even better than the TDI SL, I tested it and you can ground balance highly magnetic ground and if it still makes the threshold waver slightly you can adjust the Disc and knock it out all together, When it comes to power what modern machines do with a 15" it can exceed them using the standard "old" 950 coil, and it has no problem discing out large Iron, and it has stacked two stage GB control knobs, I since found out that these thing have almost a cult following in the US, I phone Whites in Inverness and they told me it was made in July 1989 John.
  12. Interesting QED Thread

    I have been watching a thread over on PA and it seems there are a few problems, But some of the replies from those pro qed folks seem a little daunting when you consider that the main issue is the ground balance and threshold, which brings to mind JP's review. I find the TDI's a bit worrisome as in when to deploy each of the conductivity settings and find it is much easier to run the SL set to ALL, the QED would drive me nuts when you take the latest reply in to account having to do a Math equation to set the GB/Threshold, anyway here is the link maybe one of you wiser people can translate it all in to common English. https://www.prospectingaustralia.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?id=23399
  13. From things I've read and heard, there is a small but loyal following for at least some of the CZ series (with single digits, -3, -4, -5, -6, etc.) and even claims that they are still today among the best coin detectors. I wasn't detecting when this series was available and don't know any more than a few snippets here and there in posts. They do show up on eBay and from (at least some of) the prices, I surmize they are still in demand. Would someone post an overview of the series, highs and lows, pluses and minuses, etc.? I think I've read that Tom Dankowski used to mod one of these models for extra depth. Also wondering if Dave Johnson had a hand in the design/engineering of this series or if they occurred in the time window when he was working elsewhere.
  14. A guy found this detector in a wood pile at a local factory. Looked like it had been there for years, weathered badly, shaft was broken and coil was busted. As a challenge they gave it to me. Two days later I installed batteries and low and behold it came on. Couldn't find a manual so I went into experimental mode and can say I was impressed with the air test (for a China product). To start with I thought it was a single tone machine, dime and nickel gave a high tone, but adjusting the ground balance and the discrimination revealed attributes that reminded me of the TDI. Now a nickel gives a low tone and a dime remained a high tone. Next I took the machine to my test garden of over 10 years and was shocked to hear a repeatable response of my deepest targets. Please note, I’m not promoting China products, only indicating what I found. There is one adjustment on the side that I’m wondering about not sure what it might be. Would also like information about this machine, the internet really doesn’t indicate when they were manufactured or much detail.
  15. QED Field Test Report

    "Righto, this is based on my last 4 or 5 trips combined. Today was the 2nd time I've been able have 2 QED,s on the ground as well as a GPX 4500 and a souped up GP 3000 to compare." https://www.prospectingaustralia.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=341762#p341762 https://www.prospectingaustralia.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=341951#p341951 QED Thread On This Forum
  16. Hie Steve; Thanks for the discussion about the GPZ 7000 and other gold detectors. I am attracted to a machine that I have never used: the GER Easyway 3D Detector. Do you have experience using this one? What is your comment about it?
  17. Yes, it's Steve!!!!!!!!!!!! https://web.archive.org/web/20130508060926/http:/www.troycustomdetectors.com:80/reviews/x5-herschbach-review.html
  18. PhaseTech and other GS users, notice you listed a Gold Striker in detector used thread, I preferred the GS over the 17000 on shallow ground but a lot were disappointed with it. Just wondering if it had some special "tweaks" in its electronics? Something a bit diff. other then was a single frequency.
  19. Just tested the Exper with these three metals. Although the Exper does not fair well with smaller gold, it does have potential for certain applications for larger gold (1/2 oz +). Watch this video and believe...
  20. I thought I would take a few minutes here and talk about the Signum MFT detector. My unit seems to have (looking at screen at turn on) the original version software. I have used the detector with the stock supplied coil,,it measures approx 11.5" in diameter. This coil is deep,,7khz freq, but due to size it can be cumbersome to use in places. Using the stock coil,,,bumping it will cause some falsing at times,,,running gain at 6,, sensitivity at 11. It in my soil is for a metered Vlf detector,,just maybe be my deepest on a clad US dime. The ground balance while using this detector,,very critical to get good to serious depth. Not hard to ground balance as long as you have some clean ground-- this can be a pain btw sometimes. It seems in my ground here,,,using turbo is really not effective,,,like a lot of other units with boost. But even saying this,,this detector features an economy power transmit setting as well as economy off setting. This economy off setting here combined with a sensitivy level of around 11,, gets down in the ground. This detector IMO,,sweep speed wise not overly forgiving,,at least with stock coil. This detector does possess a feature where the recovery speed can be increased,,called mm mode. Since I have been putting in most of my time with the Nokta Impact detector,,I do need more time with this detector. I happened to see a gent who was selling a smaller the stock coil (6x10") Mars coil,,so I bought. In case some folks here don't know,,,the coils used on AKA Sorex detector are interchangeable here with Signum detectors. Well today I took this new to me coil to a site,,to try. I was very impressed with this coil,,,as long as I was in mm mode. It seemed if I was running in normal mode,,,the detector couldn't keep up with the ground,,and even some of the iron and targets. I need to operate some more,,,I could be jumping the gun here by criticizing it. This detector and coil combo(my new to me coil) feels real nice,,balance and weight. This coil being 14khz,,,it nails higher conductors big time,,,some coins rather deep using this coil,,a user might think they were only a couple inches deep. The audio this detector possesses,,,is second to none in my book. One detector with such great audio,,,a user will not be overwhelmed even when running all metal in a super duper bad site with iron and nails. I did even today try and dig a few lower conductors,,that had a straight line on the holograph display. Even some of the lower conductors that had just a tinge of a loop in their graph reading. And sure enough these kinds of targets were low conductors but not worthy at all,,,edges irregular, inconsistent thickness, etc. I certainly would recommend the detector to a person,,,but with a 10" coil or smaller. Not a hard detector to operate either,,,sets up a lot like a White's V3i as far as the all metal side,,and the disc side of the houses (sensitivity wise). The pinpoint on this detector,,and I have owned a Sorex as well,,,both have the hottest pinpoint functions I have ever seen. Luckily they are adjustable so it can be turned down sensitivity wise. Similar ID screens are used I think with Xp Deus (secret screen, version 3.2) and White's Vx3 and V3i models. The Signum will give high tone on iron false,,,a user if they will watch screen will start to see a pattern to recognize iron falses. The tones are adjustable,,I haven't adjusted mine. This detector also has a way to check for bottlecaps,,has helped me. I even used this same feature today to weed out a bigger piece of cast iron. If a person here gets a chance to be around either a Sorex or one of the Signum models,,at least try to listen to the audio they possess. I am posting this info here as strictly a user of detector.
  21. Who did use BR Royal Basic metal detector . Any advice
  22. Good day did any of you on the otherside of the pond did try a Vista gold on gold nuggets?????25kgz I had a bit of success with it ,then I send it to be tested on hillfort (pounded spots..) RR
  23. I wonder how it would do on Florida beaches? Very light weight, super hot on small stuff, can use Minelab compatible coils.
  24. QED Review

    So far there has been no real “direct” reviews of the QED, in effect just innuendo clouded by politics, which is not helpful. With the help of a friend I've just finished some testing of the QED and want to share our impressions here in the hopes of getting the ball rolling for some quality discussions (but maybe this is being too optimistic?) We hope and believe our tests were rigorously objective, the QED was used for general gold hunting and also comprehensively tested on buried real gold pieces of various sizes in a variety of soils, considerable care was taken to ensure no placebo/bias.* We deliberately tested on only frequently detected but historically very productive public fields, not private property in which it can be relatively easy to find gold using any technology due to only ever seeing a few detectorists. First and foremost, important details of the QED's method of operation that are different to other detectors which needs to be clearly understood: Unlike Minelab detectors, the QED has a “dead zone” that can be varied using the Volume control. The threshold is set using the Bias control and has 2 different audio threshold settings, an upper and a lower value. When the Bias is turned down in number below the threshold lower value, OR, turned up in number above the upper threshold value, the “Threshold” audio increases as per usual. Suppose for example, the lower audio threshold bias value of the Bias control happens to be 50 and the upper threshold bias number happens to be 60. Then if the Bias is turned down below 50 OR turned up above 60, the audio “threshold” level increases as per usual. For these threshold examples, 50 and 60, small gold (fast time constant targets) “in effect” produce signals less than 55 (half way between 50 and 60), and larger gold “in effect” produce signals more than 55. If the Bias is set at the lower threshold limit, 50 for example, then the detection of small gold will give the usual INCREASE in audio level response, and larger gold will give a BELOW threshold level response, OR If Bias is set at the higher threshold limit, 60 for example, then the detection of larger gold will give the usual INCREASE in audio level response, and smaller gold will give a BELOW audio threshold level response. Similarly with ground noise; some ground noise will in effect produce signals below 55, so that if the Bias is set at 50, this ground noise will give an increase in audio sound, but if the Bias is set at 60, this ground noise will give a below threshold audio response. Conversely, if the ground noise is in effect above 55, then if the Bias is set at 50, this ground noise will give a below threshold audio, but if Bias is set at 60, this ground noise will give an increase in audio level. Signals in effect BETWEEN 50 and 60 are in the “dead-zone,” for which the audio is below threshold. Signals in effect below 50 OR above 60 give an increase in audio. So if threshold is set at the lower threshold of 50, then faint signals from small gold will give an above threshold audio, and large targets a below threshold audio. Whereas its the opposite for the upper threshold of 60, faint signals from large gold will give an above threshold audio, and small targets below threshold audio. So for shallow small gold select the lower threshold limit, for big deeper gold select the upper threshold limit. Bigger target signals will produce above threshold signals regardless of whether they are small or larger targets. However the Volume control controls the dead-zone width; the gap between the upper and lower threshold Bias settings, that is, the dead zone gap is increased by turning the Volume down, or decreased by turning the Volume up. In fact the QED can be set to operate with NO dead-zone (like the usual Minelab PI audio). To do this: a. Vary the Bias between the upper and lower threshold. Note the gap. b. Increase volume a bit. c. Re-do a. and note the decrease in the gap. d. Continue to repeat a, b, c until there is no gap. (This will allow some feel for true ground noise etc.) However the QED audio has a very low level signal EVEN if below threshold, This below threshold faint audio signal is just the pitch signal only, and detects all signals, ground noise, target signals, whether long time constant or short, and EMI. But this below threshold pitch sensitivity is not as acute as the audio set at threshold per point 2 below, and it is very soft. Yet even further, if a target or ground noise (or EMI) does drive the audio below threshold, the nature of the audio is that it has the usual “re-bound” response once the coil has moved over and past the target or ground noise. I refer to the lower pitch audio following the initial target higher pitch audio (“high-low”) or the opposite; the higher pitch audio following the initial target lower pitch audio (“low-high”) effect known from Minelab PI's. So for moderately weak target signals that cause the audio to dip below threshold once the coil moves beyond the target and the audio then rebounds above threshold. To recap; for these targets, as the coil passes over the target the audio goes first below threshold THEN above the threshold. However for the fainter of these target signals (the important signals one listens for in thrashed ground), this rebound signal is hard to discern compared to the same signal that would occur if the Bias had been set at the alternative threshold setting for which the audio signal then would have given an initial increase in threshold as the coil passes over it and then a below threshold rebound. Therefore, it is important to understand that you EITHER need to set the Bias to chase the faint small targets in shallow ground (Bias at the lower number setting), but lose out a bit on the faint large target signals OR set the Bias to chase the faint larger targets in deeper ground (Bias at the higher number threshold setting) but lose out a bit on the smaller targets. The QED has a “motion” audio response; meaning the coil has to be moved to hear a signal. It can be operated both quickly, and also, remarkably slowly. If the coil is moved “remarkably” slowly it is possible to hear the average audio detect a very faint target above the audio “background random chatter”, considerably more readily than if the coil was moved at a typical realistic operational speed. When depth testing and when you know where the target is, beware that you do not slow down the coil swing to an artificial unnatural swing speed to enable the detection of a deep target at its known location.* Important recommendations: 1. It's very important to get the threshold (Bias) spot on for optimal results, If the threshold level is too high, then faint signals get drowned out, but if the audio threshold level is too low then only the residual very faint pitch signal remains, but this faint pitch only signal is less sensitive to target signals than the audio set optimally as per point 2 immediately following. 2. The threshold must be set so that it is just audible; in effect just immediately below the “real” audio threshold signal, so that what you are hearing is just between only the pitch signal and actual above threshold audio. 3. Note that the effective principal threshold control (Bias) is temperature dependent and requires reasonably frequent adjustment over time as the ambient temperature changes to get best results. Therefore there is NO actual specific optimal Bias number setting, rather it entirely depends on temperature. It can be as high as 70 in very hot conditions 4. Once 2. and 3. are optimally achieved, you will find that the GB setting has to be spot on for best results. If you find that it is not critical, you really need to re-address points 2. and 3. 5. The QED does produce ground noise that sounds on occasion like a target. If you aren't digging some ground noise you do not have it set up properly, especially in variable soils. With ANY detector (automatic GB or Manual) altering the GB setting slightly to eliminate a faint “deep target-like signal” will result in eliminating the faint signal whether it is ground noise OR in fact a deep real metal target. 6. You need to listen to the soft “subliminal” threshold of the QED very carefully, quality headphones are a must. 7. “Gain” acts as a sensitivity control as you would expect. I suggest that the QED is best used as a specialist very fine (Small) gold detector. It produced a reasonably clear but quiet response to the extreme small gold (of the order of 0.1 g), we managed to find 5 tiny pieces in well-worked ground in all totaling 1 gram, although the SDC would have picked 5 of the 5, but not so well in one location due to power line noise (This could be remedied somewhat by lowering the Gain of the SDC and using minimal threshold). However, we purposely went over exactly the same ground with the SDC with the SDC set at a lower threshold and 3 on the gain, and then found 3 more pieces of gold; we are 100% sure we had already passed the QED exactly over the target locations so we put this down to QED ground noise masking targets. The QED struggles compared to the SDC in the more mineralised soils, however the QED does seem superior to the ATX. To get the most out of the QED, use a small coil such as an 8” Commander mono, and set the Mode as low as possible so long as the ground signals do not become too intrusive. Usually 1 or 2 is OK for Minelab coils, but some other coils may produce too much ground noise at this setting so you may need to increase the Mode to 3 or above dependent on the ground. Further, we got some very thin aluminium foil and very gradually trimmed it down until the SDC could no longer detect it. This represents particularly fast time constant targets (“extremely” small gold), and found that the QED did still detect it, but only within several mm of the coil surface, not further. But this does mean that the QED will detect extremely small shallow pieces that the SDC will not. Alternatively we suggest the QED is also a suitable lightweight low-cost patch hunter when used with a large coil with the Mode turned up so that there is less ground noise. For the sake of completion, to answer questions posed of the QED depth for an Australian 5 cent piece compared to the Zed both using the same sized coils. We measured this carefully and we are not prepared to give exact figures to avoid any trivial arguments, other than to say that the QED detected between 60% to 2/3rd of the depth of the Z. The QED susceptibility to EMI in areas remote from mains compared to the 5k on EMI noisy days? In one word: “Good. The QED susceptibility to mains in urban areas compared to the SDC or Zed? In two words: “Typically Bad.” The QED’s main strength is its cost, light weight, ergonomics, and simplicity of use, and yes it IS definitely simple to use, but a bit “fiddly.” It has no “magic settings” once you understand exactly how it operates as described above. Going back to the SDC really highlighted the difference a light weight detector can have on general comfort and enjoyment of detecting, and our experiences with the QED underscored Minelab's poor ergonomics. In our opinion the QED fits a market where people are looking for a cheap detector capable of finding small gold in thrashed areas, and are wanting more coil choices without the specialised "one size fits all" approach of the SDC. Good value for money. Its main weakness is its underlying ground noise, which although having the advantage of being “hidden” in the dead zone, nevertheless limits depth compared to lower ground noise capable detectors, for targets other than the very fast time constant targets. In summary it works relatively best in the less mineralised soils for small gold. Beyond the scope of the above suggested prospecting (very small gold & patch hunting mainly in relatively unmineralised soils), I choose not to comment further, other than we will not be using the QED for purposes other than secondary activities, and still intend to use other well-known detectors for primary prospecting activities because of their other advantages. No doubt others with QED's will disagree with us. We welcome this, and would be happy to be proved wrong. Ultimately, time tells the truth by substantial gold finds or lack thereof in well-worked ground. *Note: because of the subtle audio, it is easy to imagine you are “hearing” a target above the general background ground noise when you know where it is. We endeavoured to avoid this tendency.
  25. Buried in the announcement of the new Minelab Gold Monster 1000 is the fact that it effectively replaces the Eureka Gold. From http://www.minelab.com/usa/customer-care/product-notices?article=305152 09 Feb 2017 Discontinued Product – Eureka Gold After almost 20 years of gold success, the Eureka Gold detector has been discontinued. As with any product discontinuation, Minelab will continue to provide technical support service. You can find archived product information on the Eureka Gold here. If you have any questions, please contact your regional Minelab office. And from http://www.minelab.com/usa/customer-care/product-notices/discontinued-products Discontinued Products As new technology is developed and improves upon the performance of our current product range, Minelab discontinues our older product models. These products are listed on this page alphabetical order for your reference. We aim to service and support all of our older products for as long as possible. All products are supported for a period of at least 7 years after they are discontinued. Unfortunately with some of these older detectors it becomes impossible to source the parts required for service work and so the detectors eventually become uneconomical to repair.
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