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  1. This 9" Round High Frequency coil is only one month old. Bought it for my girlfriend but she doesnt spend any time detecting. I have used it a few times myself and works great but I think Im gonna stick with my Elliptical. Full 4 years and 11 month warranty left on it. Purchased September 2017. I have over 2100 perfect feedback on ebay so Im a trusted seller. Has scuffs and scratches from prospecting on rocks but that has no effect on performance. I love the external batteries on the HF coils. Can't wait till aftermarket starts selling even longer lasting batteries for them since they are so easy to swap out. $300 shipped, payment thru Paypal friends and family if you cant contact me on here you can email me directly at 57buick@comcast.net The picture shows it packed into the elliptical box but this is the round HF coil for sale. I threw away the original box, unfortunately. Includes the coil, the lower rod, the battery, and the attachment hardware. ready to go and fully charged. If you message me I might be out detecting, Ill get back to you by the end of the day
  2. Video - XP DEUS Elliptical HF Coil

    Well, this video is not nugget detecting but it as close as I can get so far to the Deus elliptical coil so it will have to do....
  3. Finds first for the TLDR people. As the finds in my current primary patch dwindle in numbers from being worked heavily the past two years, I'm scouting for a new primary patch to begin working. Using the criteria and method outlined in a previous post, I've located a very good location that is certain to hold gold, silver, and more. Today will be my first time boots on the ground at that location and I'll walk the reader through it along with my scouting method. Maybe it will help someone and provide insight or encouragement. Here is the sat. view 5 playgrounds, one skate park, basketball, tennis, two soccer fields, two softball fields, two shelters, one former 1890's to 1950's church location on site. Here are my paths while scouting. Deus in red, V3i in green. So, from the sat. images there are many hot-spots to strike, and I won't try to get them all as this is a long term prospect, and I only desire to determine 3 primary things today. 1. Pressure - hunting pressure from other detectorists. 2. Trash composition and density. 3. Presence - Is there jewelry where I expect it to be. Deus gets the top spot today as it's the ideal scouting unit. Light, fast, great tones to read the trash. From the parking lot I begin and move to the skate park since it's close and can hold silver and junk jewelry along with lots of coins. Foil seems to be the primary trash along the way, and around the skate feature the aluminum kicks in - light can slaw and tabs primarily. I can hear lots and lots of coins, zinc and copper cents mostly, but a healthy quantity of dimes as well. I select a few targets I know are quarters and pennies, then intentionally sample some of the larger better sounding trash before moving on. The primary traffic flow from one side of the park to another is divided by a slight drainage ditch with the easiest pass being on either end... and people naturally take the easiest route, so I do too. Pennies everywhere! Zinc mostly, healthy dose of copper, decent selection of dimes, quite a few quarters...light trash mostly foil and ferrous bits... but I keep on moving through without digging a single target. Not interested today. Moving to the goal at the primary soccer field I work my way over to the nearest corner, then down the sideline to mid-field before cutting over to the center. Then I work my way to the opposite goal before coming around the back net. From there, and because of its close proximity to the goal, I briefly enter the playground before hitting the nearest corner of the soccer field diagonally opposite from the first corner I hit. Quarters everywhere! I decide to spend some time here sampling, cherry picking the best sounds. Within 10 minutes I found the heart pendant necklace. Jewelry confirmed, nice. So I pause, crank up the notch to 93 and take all the quarters before moving on. Erasing the notch I notice an area of the playground is different. Something was removed and not replaced. I suspect one of the super dangerous merry-go-rounds that children today get no experience or joy from used to be there. Clad everywhere....move on. Swing-set looks vintage so I check that and the mostly abandoned softball backstop area nearby. The trash picks up and bottle caps start to appear below the coil. I dug a first (for this park) beavertail ring pull, nice...a sign there might be some silver coins lurking around here. I'm getting hot by now so start thinking of shade and where to find some. It's scarce, so good places to concentrate. I mentally discriminate everything but quarters. Lots of nice signals, lots of trash and rusty caps. So far this is the trashiest area and I'm impressed it's not worse. Out of water and thirsty, I head back to the parking lot where I started, taking any quarters I come across. There are so many coins around it's obvious to me this park has never been heavily worked over by much of anyone in a long time, if ever. This place is a clad mine. Exactly how my current patch started out! I switch out units for the V3i and head towards the nearby secondary soccer field goal. I work one small corner of the goal net taking everything in a 6 foot diameter...clad and tabs mostly. Then I work right down the field towards the only clump of trees between the two fields and casually work the area randomly, still cherry picking signals but expanding the range down below zinc cents a little plus taking all nickel range targets as I find them. Getting tired and hot I'm thinking of wrapping it up so I head out to the sideline and try to find the trash zone where people sit and spectate. There isn't much trash to detect so I decide to just pick a line inside the playing field and take everything not obviously trash out of the ground. As I reached the corner of the field the silver ring shows up. Someone threw the ball into play and lost a ring perhaps. Now we're talking! Satisfied with the mission I walked off and swung over the curb area near the parking lot to get a feel for the trash there, too. With light to moderate trash, tons of clad signals, two pieces of jewelry - I have all the intel I need to know that this park is going to produce a few gold items, eventually. I'm hesitant to give 5 stars so we'll rate it at a 4 plus star park, IMO. Next hunt the tedious process of clad layer removal begins, oh, joy. Thanks for your time. Good hunting.
  4. I finally went out and found my first gold nuggets with the new DEUS elliptical high frequency coil. I want to emphasize that I am a newbie on the XP Deus. Although I purchased an 11" Deus V3.2 model almost two years ago, it was with the express purpose of being able to test the V4 update with the new high frequency coil options for gold prospecting. I decided I was better off just starting fresh with version 4.0 before really digging in and learning the detector. I do get the hang of detectors quickly but this does show what can be done by somebody who went out barely knowing the machine. The other catch is that I picked a location that favors the Deus with relatively mild soil for a gold location, so mild I could run the machine full out to get the maximum possible sensitivity with the machine. These results are not going to be as easy to obtain in extreme mineral ground. You have to start someplace however and being new to the machine I wanted to give myself someplace easy to start. Finally, the goal here was to find the smallest gold I could so for the purposes of this report - smaller is better. These nuggets were recovered over the course of a day. Ten nuggets, 4.7 grains total weight. There are 480 grains per Troy ounce and with an average weight of less than half a grain I think you can agree this is some pretty small stuff. The smallest bits are probably near 1/10th grain or 1/4800th of a Troy ounce. Click picture for larger version. The new HF elliptical coil running at 74 kHz is clearly in the same league as the 71 kHz Fisher Gold Bug 2, 45 kHz Minelab Gold Monster, 56 kHz Makro Gold Racer, and 48 kHz White's GMT. However, the devil is in the details and it will be some time before I sort out how the machines compare under more difficult and varied conditions. Again, I am not an expert with the Deus and so the settings I mention are not to be taken as "the best" or anything like that. I was actually gold prospecting so the primary focus was to find gold, not to test every possible combination of settings on the Deus. With 10 program options and numerous settings that will be a longer term project. I obviously wanted to try the Gold Field program 10. After a little experimenting I settled on the GM Power program 2 as an alternate disc mode to try. Getting from program 10 to program 2 is only a couple button pushes, so I bounced back and forth between the two programs and tweaked settings higher as I found targets and could compare readings. Gold Field is a threshold based all metal mode with what I find to be a rather pleasant digitized buzz. That's me of course, others may differ on that point. I was able to run sensitivity full out at 99. All my work was done at 74 khz, the default highest frequency setting without trying to push it higher via the offset. I figure the coil is tuned at 74 khz and so stuck with that for now. Manual ground balance about 84. GM Power I got sensitivity to 94 with only minor falsing. I reduced reactivity (similar to SAT for you nugget hunters) to 0 from the default of 2 and ran the audio response (audio boost) up to 7 (max). Both modes exhibit just a little touch sensitivity at these high gain levels. This might be tamed with the ground notch but I have not fooled with that yet and it did not bother me at all anyway. What I found was Gold Field has a softer response in general but that my boosted version of GM Power banged hard on the little bits. Not unlike going from all metal mode on the Gold Bug 2 to the Iron Disc mode. Instead of faint threshold variations you get a strong "beep". The difference is that the Gold Bug 2 Iron Disc mode has an obvious loss in sensitivity. The Deus by comparison in this particular situation actually seemed to work better in GM Power mode, but that is mainly the boosted audio at work. I left the disc settings at the defaults for GM Power which worked well - low tone iron, higher tones non-ferrous. I ran the IAR (iron reject) in Gold Field at 2. This was just enough to cause ferrous to break up. Higher settings would blank most ferrous completely but getting to aggressive can also eliminate weak gold signals. The ferrous discrimination worked very well in both programs. GM Power in particular was pretty awesome in the nail pits with iron tones firing off like a machine gun. I bumped reactivity back to 2 in the dense trash. Anyway, this is a very preliminary report and so no point getting too deep into it as I will probably modify my opinions and settings as I get more time on the machine. Right now this is a high price option if all you need is a prospecting unit, but for a person wanting one machine to do everything XP just kicked it up a notch. If they introduce a dedicated gold unit at a lower price similar to the Depar DPR 600 it would be very competitive. For now this is an option for somebody that wants a detector for more than just gold prospecting since the Deus is a superb coin, relic, and jewelry detector. The elliptical coil and rod assembly is just 1 lb 13 oz (1.8 lbs) and so a true featherweight. At 5' 11" I have to run it fully extended and at that it does flex a bit, but I did not find that bothersome at all. A solid coil cover will be good as there are too many coil edges that want to hang up on rubble and sticks. A minor quibble however as the machine is a joy to handle, especially when reaching uphill waist high and higher. A great unit for poking in and around bushes and other obstructions. The coil is hotter at the tips which also helps in poking into tight locations. Early days but the final word is that I am happy with how this coil performs on small gold nuggets after all the wait. Time will tell how it handles the really bad ground and how it fares directly against some of the competition as other people report in. As always giving it time and waiting for a consensus opinion from many users to develop is a wise policy with any new detector.
  5. Used round HF coil today for 1.5 hours. The MI-6 performed flawless when using with detector. No hang ups with audio, coil linking, or stuck screen or any what I call unacceptable delays as far as transition when powering on or off the pinpointer. Nice performance.
  6. I know this is probably getting old for folks. A 1.5 hour hunt late this morning. But again in the same site as the Spanish bit, around 30 ft away, and depth of half dime a mere 4" deep. Agan used 28.8 kHz,,signal barely heard but better IMO than the signal on the Spanish bit I found a few days ago. Extremely hard hunted site by myself previously using other detectors and coils. Folks I see a trend with this coil. I think. Either I have become a better detectorist in the last couple months or this coil is doing something for me. I let you guess which one I think. And to think maybe a lot of folks where thinking high frequency is for lower conductors only. Well, I don't see it this way. Gotta love this coil. My rabbits foot maybe. I did use the MI-6 pin pointer this morning too. Will write some thing up about it as far as using with elliptical HF coil-- not all good either. Hard for me to lay my war horse Garrett Propointer down. Pinpointers do have their personalities too,,hard to change and feel real comfortable.
  7. I recently discovered these stick on permanent charge clip bases and I am loving it. I wondering now why XP didn't do this in the first place! Just have a direct USB port right there. So much easier to deal with all the time especially with multiple coils. If it was just molded into the coil it would be even better. But so far this seems to be working great for me. I have only found this one guy in Ukraine selling them on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/XP-Deus-Search-Coil-Charge-Clip-NEW-NEW-NEW-/170780528970?hash=item27c350114a:g:Tm8AAOSwd~RZQUzG
  8. Seems some folks already experiencing problems. http://www.findmall.com/read.php?83,2369596
  9. I have not used my MI-6 pinpointer very much at all since receiving. I am so accustomed to my Garret Propointer it is hard for me to try and get used to a new pinpointer and a new detector coil (HF elliptical) at the same time. Anyway today I used the MI-6 this morning on a 1.5 hour hunt. Tonally I like the pointer, and I like the pulse option tone wise and love how the pointer ratchets tone as the points nears metal. Now the bad. This pointer has problems when used with elliptical HF coil. I witnessed many times coil loss when turning pointer off, would have long delay to get coil linked. I even had the screen freeze up on remote when turning pinpointer off a few times, but with time (way to long IMO) the detect screen would finally appear. I had after turning pointer off, the detect screen as well as the coil linking (coil freq) shown in screen and didn't get a no coil warning,, but the detector had no audio whatsoever,,even sweeping my shovel 0 disc full tones,,,again though after long delay the audio would start being provided. Xp needs to get this fixed with update. A real pain. And if a person isn't careful, it is possible to after turning pointer off,,to sweep right over a find and get nothing tonally. I have read where some users of pointer say the pointer works as advertised using LF coils. I can't say, maybe with some time, I will get out all of my Deus coils and do some testing.
  10. Finds first: So back at the end of June I scouted a new park and potential jewelry patch but due to oppressive heat and drought conditions in July and most of August I've only been back three times since then. In addition to climate, my detecting time has severely been cut because jiu jitsu takes over our family life 4 nights a week as my kids and wife found themselves addicted to the dojo and choking people. I'm a bad influence, I guess. Two weeks ago (my last real 6 hour detecting session) I ran into another detectorist at this park working his Ace around the same goal net I worked back in June. Soon we were chatting and then kinda hunting together as he sort of followed me around, which was slightly annoying when I'm used to being alone, but that's me, not him really. Anyway, while we were hitting various spots around the park I picked up a small 10k ring at the edge of one playground. 4th hunt here and gold! 1.4 grams 10kt (unknown triangle mark) We finally got more rain and I went back to this patch a few days ago. I went to one of the softball backstops the other detectorist and I hunted around a few weeks back. I was mindlessly pulling square tabs three feet from the backstop fence, trying to reduce the trash load, when to my surprise gold #2 appeared - 7.4 grams 14kt FG mens band! Boom! 1 hour 45min into the hunt. Same tone as the older style square pull tabs and just about into bottlecap range. In fact, I dug a few square tabs that while on the surface sound and VDI the same as the ring. That's without headphones and using the module's external speaker, btw. After 5 hunts of maybe 35 hours I am pleased with the new patch so far. Almost two dozen junk jewelry, over $25 - 30 in change and one silver ring, one silver dove pin (no picture) and two gold rings. Both rings taken with Deus 4.0 11" coil, full tones, 0 discrimination, 0 notch 18khz. Thanks for peeking and good hunting to you.
  11. Another hunt this morning. In a hard hunted site. Last silver to come from this side of road for me was a war nickel,,I dug with Nokta Impact using small elliptical when testing it. And the Spanish bit in the pic was dug approx 11"-14" from where I dug this war nickel back ealier in the year. There is no telling how many times I have swept this Spanish bit in the past using other detectors and coils including Deus and LF coils, and the round HF Deus coil too. Ground is drier than previous hunts here. Could have helped me find this bit. If folks would have heard this signal's tone on the Deus in full tones,,,I don't think anyone would have expected silver. Not even me.lol I was surprised. And the depth of this bit? A mere 4-4.5" deep. Site is loaded with iron and square nails. A broken signal and barely audible. Dug some other things too, but these were dug around 150 ft behind this small patch where the bit was found. Check out the washer(nonferrous) on the nail, that is how it come out of the ground. Orientation though unknown. Funny thing in this small patch I have dug 2 extremely old pocket knives previously. Could that have been a clue,,for old timers sitting around a whittling or whatever. I am really liking this coil,,,,a must have IMO for older sites,,sneaky little devil. But one has to be paying attention, not all nonferrous goes ringy dingy. Got to go back this afternoon later. Deer hunting for me, just doesn't turn me on anymore like detecting does. Little better pic of bit. f
  12. I just got my Deus with both HF coils. Is there any reason other than coverage I would want the 13" coil? I hear it's pretty nose heavy and I'm thinking the HF coils are so amazingly sensitive and deep I probably would never have a use for the 13" right?
  13. Received My Xp Mi-6 Pinpointer

    Received my MI-6 pinpointer today. A few comments. I have tested and used a little bit. Nice addition I feel to anyone operating a Deus unit. Will benefit both Deus lite package users as well as packages containing the remote unit. The pinpointer if a person has the remote, will have no problem knowing if the pinpointer is switched on or off just by glancing at the remote, not so with Deus lite package ( looking at headphone module). Unit easily pairs to actual Deus unit. Notice I said Deus Lite package above (no remote). This brings up a good question for dealers here, and I will be posting this actual thread on another forum where actual dealers sponsor. For good reason too. Folks who opt to purchase Deus lite package, if I am correct there, if a dealer will use an "in house" remote and pair the pinpointer for Deus lite purchaser,,the pinpointer can in fact be used in an actual interface fashion. And with drop shipping, yes this could be a problem. But I think if a person looks around, maybe they can find a dealer with items in stock at dealership. I do have a question for Craig (detecting Mo). If the pointer is paired using the remote of course for say a person who has Deus Lite unit, later on after this has transpired,,can the Deus lite owner operator,, can they actually unpair the pinpointer intentionally or accidentally, making pairing void, hence since the person wouldn't have a remote to re pair,,they would be SOL. Am I right here Craig with my thinking. I like the belt clip and how it rotates. I have played with the non interfaced option of using, still not ready to comment on it just yet. Will say for folks buying pinpointer,,and if a person is thinking of later upgrading or buying a Deus unit,, you might want to go the MI-6 route,, and yes it can be used it seems at least to the satisfactory level with any Vlf detector. http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/local/Xpmda/Frontend/assets/docs/MI-6_Manual.pdf More to come maybe.
  14. SO took the Deus out for the first time with the HF coil to get a feel for it. It is surprisingly sensitive, I was picking up the tiniest lead split shot out of crevices and they were screamin! Still havn't found gold but it's promising.. I think the hardest part is finding the right locations (that are accessible anyway) so many miles of known gold country is claimed and off limits I have always done relic and coin hunting, gold is somewhat new to me. Still trying to find that first nugget.
  15. So rather than spend $200 for the XP branded case I thought I could do better. So first I bought the Plano model 108442 gun rifle case for $70 shipped on Amazon
  16. The owner's manual for Deus detector recommends when components are charged to disconnect charging harness from components. I really don't know electrically what happens with say the wall charger, or even a auto charger adapter when Deus components reach full charge. So, I have this portable pack. Will show a front and back pic. It has a percentage of charge left shown in upper right corner. This thing seems will charge a Deus up a bunch. Here is where the pack may come in handy even when at home and you desire to charge your Deus,,but can't be there eyeballing it when it reaches full charge. Or maybe driving and don't want to monitor charge process. Btw other packs may operate similar,,this is only the second type I have owned,,first one didn't give info like this one does. Anyway, when Deus components (all) when connected reach full charge the pack seems to shut down,,due to no load being applied. The percentage number of power left in pack (numerical indicator) goes out when all Deus components are fully charged. Bought this one at Wally World for $28 bucks. Will pump a cell phone battery up too, tablets, etc. r
  17. Steve, How is the XP Deus working for you? Is it really a worthwile addition for a CTX owner with small 6" smart coil for unmasking? I tried the Nokta Relic. I wanted to like it but too many false signals had me digging tons of trash. Some iron gives high signals even just 2 inches down in my dirt, out of the hole it goes low signal. I don't have time for that. Coins go into the upper nineties for target ID so a nail & coin look the same. I understand it's different in other States with milder soil. I finally bought a new CTX instead. These machines work here! I never seem to be able to get away from a Minelab. (Fisher has been good as well. Accurate target ID) -Don
  18. Some random notes, and if you don't know what I am talking about as regards some detail of this machine or that I apologize. Well, I finally updated my XP Deus with 11" coil to the version 4 update. Then I hauled it and the Nokta Impact with 11" and Teknetics G2 with 11" out for several hours of cross checking coin type targets. The G2 is a Gold Bug Pro variant running at 19 kHz and I put it up against the Deus at 18 kHz and Impact at 20 kHz. I acquired the G2 new recently to use specifically as a benchmark unit because I am very familiar with it and because in my opinion it does 19 kHz as well as it can be done. I spent hours swapping machines as the hunt machine, then cross checking the undug targets with the other two. Lots of settings tried, with the main goal to try and find some deep fringe type target or target in trash where any machine can get a clear and definable edge. Well good luck with that. All I mainly did was impress myself again with what a little powerhouse the Gold Bug Pro/G2 is for the price. It is fairly mineralized ground but not the worst, 5 bars out of 7 on the G2 Fe3O4 meter, ground balance about 86. The only real "aha" moment was in learning the Impact really likes to upscale shallow small foil when in 5 kHz mode, but shoves the id back down to where it should be at 14 kHz or 20 kHz. All the machines like to upscale deeper aluminum in this ground. All three seemed to get tricked in much the same way on certain targets, like a deep pull tab reading like a dime. For gold hunting purposes I do not mind machines upscaling low conductive targets, and in fact the Impact 5khz mode may have a benefit in nugget detecting because it does want to push light foil (and therefore small gold) higher. But for coin detecting upscaling aluminum is annoying. Pretty much par for the course however for mid to higher single frequency machines. I found running the Impact in VLX1 was nice as I could flip over just one click to the Gen(D) mixed mode program for a dramatically different read and better target definition. Target id numbers in my ground are slightly higher in the "expanded ferrous" modes like VLX1 and VLX2 compared to DI3 and DI4. The Deus V4 Gold Field program does seem to pack some extra punch now, be fun to get it out nugget hunting once the elliptical coil hits the streets. The new Deep mode really seems great while the new Hot mode is, shall I say it, interesting. First time I have used the X-Y screens also. The G2 is what it is, almost no controls but it gets the job done with what it has, and good solid id. Deus and Impact in the other hand have countless options and programs to try, but by and large there is no magic bullet. Three great machines, I can hunt with any of them. It will take a lot more hours to sort it all out. I find when running machines that are all hitting the VLF Wall that it is the "other things" that get my notice. The Impact is obviously the heavier of the three (4 lbs 4.7 oz / 1946 grams), although very well balanced, so I give the feel on my arm award to the G2 (3 lbs 1.5 oz / 1404 grams) and the Deus (2 lbs 4.0 oz / 1020 grams with 11" coil and control box). The G2 and Deus are neck and neck in the comfort department FOR ME* but the G2 feels ever so slightly better to me, I am guessing because the coil is lighter on the G2. The G2 slays both the Impact and Deus for speaker volume if run without headphones, but on the other hand it has no volume control so would be too loud for some situations. Been awhile since I ran a Gold Bug Pro / G2 unit and caught myself when switching from disc mode to all metal when cross checking at one point and forgetting that the "big number" changes from target id in disc mode to ground phase in all metal mode, so I was looking at the ground phase instead of the little speedometer thinking it was target id for a couple goes. That one quirk always had me liking the F75 versus the Bug in all metal. I wish Fisher made a 19 kHz F75! *On arm comfort is a very subjective subject. In particular it has a great deal to do with the size of a persons hands plus length and thickness of their forearm, and their height. You really can't take any one persons word on this subject as it is like buying hiking boots. What fits one person does not fit another. It is not all about detector weight by a long shot. Balance is very important as is the all important hand grip. I am 5' 11" with forearms on the thinner side and smallish hands. For instance, my forearm really bounces around in the large Impact armrest area. The Deus armrest which may be too small for some fits me better. For me personally, the 3.5 lb Teknetics T2 / Fisher F75 is the most comfortable detector I have ever used. It is superbly balanced and something about the hand grip that narrows to the top as it cants forward really makes my hand happy. I can squeeze the armrest shut to fit my arm. So if you find the F75 to be a great fit for you, my comments apply to you. If you hate the T2/F75 setup then what I have to say is less important.
  19. I just ordered my first Deus and a HF coil. So can you clarify. In the parks around town should I keep the freq lower or still take advantage of the higher freq? Seems from the videos I've seen so far the higher freq make non-ferrous jump out more. So will I ever need to use the lower freq at all? I understand I am gonna use the 80khz when prospecting for nuggets but have been curious about the benefits of using the lower freq still Forgive my newb questions.
  20. Steve here was kind enough to sell me his HF coil for Deus detector. I have been testing and using this coil detecting heavily since I have received. In a nutshell, this coil chews through iron like nothing I have seen. In a few sites, they are controlled with me only using detectors.. I didn't realize the quanitity of nonferous left in these patches after using other detectors and coil combinations. Now some of this nonferrous was junk left here, but still I didn't realize. Some thing about this coil,,now Deus has never been famed for great ID of targets. And overall this is still true, but with one exception. And that is when hunting in super heavy dense iron. The elliptical coil seems to give some pretty good info meter wise on targets for such a difficult site to detect. For instance, a person can take a Deus with 9" LF coil into a site heavy with nails, and here some of the targets tonally, a lot of these same targets when swept with HF coil, will give extraordinary clear tone and decent to good ID to boot ( I call it a a good average) when sweeping. This info could be used to cherry pick targets. Also worth noting, just based on nonferrous tone alone when sweeping a target in a site loaded with nails, user may think target is more solo sitting. I was shocked to see many targets with nails, some even BIG recovered with nonferrous finds. This coil purrs like a kitten unlike the LF coils for Deus. I have experienced extremely little to no interference while using this coil. 14 hours testing - 8 hours detecting thus far, EMI vulnerability has been checked in 15 different places. Some of these areas one might expect to get some moderate at least emi interference, so far this coil does nicely. This coil when in a heavily nail ridden site, IMO if hunted previously with other good performing in nails/iron detectors,,,using frequency 28.8khz really lets the Deus show its stuff here. As far as using the highest band freq 74khz I have used, it does run quiet, but time of use still limited. This coil when installed on Deus rod does make the detector want to roll over more when placed on ground recovering targets. With the coil left in detecting position. So the remote will possible get some ground contact if installed on rod while using. This coil may not be for everyone, no Vdi normalization allowed for freq used, so the Vdi scale is compressed on the higher end. Using 14khz band does spread out some, better than the other 2 higher bands. Maybe with some more use, I can share more info about this nice coil.
  21. It's a mere 114 degrees here in the Desert Southwest and I've got another bunged up knee. No stitches this time, just a bruise on the critical moving parts, but it gave me an opportunity to futz with my Deus conversion to the collapsible Golden Mask rod. The problem with the Deus HF coils is that the battery is stored in the rod tube, so you have a critical wire lead from the battery to the coil. Deus solved it by making the rod connection to the coil ears a hollow split design so that the battery wire runs straight up the rod with a curly wire section that acts like a spring to keep the wire under tension. The Golden Mask rod has a solid tip at the connection to the coil ears with no place to run the battery wire of the new Deus design. So, I got out the saw and the Dremel and started making some modifications. The first thing I had to do was cut off the Golden Mask solid connection tip that bolts to the coil ears. The tip is solid HD plastic that inserts into the carbon fiber hollow tube about 2 inches. So, I cut the carbon fiber above the insert so that I could reuse the insert. I then used the Dremel to cut a slotted path for the coil battery wire to run from the bottom of the coil ear connection insert with sufficient clearance for the wire to slide smoothly. The portion of the coil ear connection that inserts into the carbon fiber tube is more or less hollow, so I continued my wire path through the outer wall into the hollow section. That way, I could run the coil wire through the groove, then slide the wire inside the tip connection and when I re-inserted the tip section the whole mess is captured inside the tube, very close to the Deus type design. The battery pack fits squarely inside the 2nd segment of the Golden Mask collapsible tube with just enough tension to keep the wire sliding freely. I then put some black electrical tape around my grooved section to keep the wire firmly inside the groove. The only other thing was a rubber washer 5/16 X 3/4 from Lowe's hardware to shim up the coil ear connections for a tighter fit. What I end up with is a detector that weights less than 2 lbs, collapses to 24 inches and extends to a maximum of 51 inches. My goal has always been to make the Deus into a discriminating pinpointer to augment the Minelab 7000. Some of my Baja prospecting excursions have resulted in way too many deep holes to recover ferrous trash that falls off the turn of the century type drywashers the oldtimers used down there. At my age, it's all about conservation of energy. You can only dig so many 2 ft holes in 85 degree temps before your day is used up. If my new discriminating pinpointer can cut my digging time in half, I'll be thrilled. By way, I had the opportunity to compare the Deus side by side with the Gold Monster on undug targets in N. NV. I was certainly impressed with the GM target audio responses and its ability to quickly adjust to changing conditions. If I were starting out gold prospecting and could only afford VLF, I'd certainly make it the GM. I like my Deus as a supplement to my Z7000, but it is not a turn on and go machine. I think at the end of the day, GM users would cover more ground simply because it's so simple and target responses are unmistakable.
  22. Any of you Deus owners tried it out on wet salt sand? I need something lightweight for trashy beaches (yeah, I'm a wimp-ette). I love my Infinium for the water and wet sand, but the bottle caps drive me nuts on the upper beach. I've done tests and bottle caps and gold rings sound identical (of course they do, it's a PI machine!). If the bottle caps drive me crazy at the ocean beach, I have a feeling the Infinium is going to be almost useless when we go to fresh water beaches next summer. My old DFX is great on the dry and will tell me instantly if it's a bottle cap. But at 5 lbs, it wears me out quick. And it really doesn't get much depth once I start wandering toward the surf line. I need a light VLF that will do a good job on any beach. Maybe the new AT Max? CTX 3030 (it's kinda heavy too)? PS. The Infinium has already paid for itself!
  23. Cracking The Code Deus V4

    Alright, another hunt today,,5 hours long,,same site as yesterday. I feel the need to share some I think worthy information. Xp Deus version 4,, is quite a bit different from version 3.2. Overall it is better,,will I think make some sites come alive again,,hunted previously with any detector really even Deus and previous versions to Version 4. I listened close today,,and did make some worthy finds,,,considering all or maybe some of these has had a detector coil over them by me personally during the course of the last 6 years. So what is different with version 4?? First let me say,,,so far my exclusive use of version 4 really is running the hot program. I ran disc setting again today using full tones disc between 2.0 and 2.5., I did find a few finds by using,,and with time in the site today,,I really started bearing down. My goal was to try and start seeing if by audio alone and how it behaved,,could I start cracking the code on maybe trying to realize what real challenged nonferrous might just sound like. Well I tried using the disc settings above,,,whalt happened??? I was digging nails,,,yes nails sounded pretty darn good,,,one thing though about these signals here I was digging,,they were a bit shorter,,but has the other characteristics of usually what a good hit would sound like. Well as I went t along,,I got over another one of these similar behaving/sounding targets,,,so I'm saying to myself,,huh and other nail??? Well here is where the light bulb started brighter,,,I started reducing disc,,got to zero,. this suspect target still sounded like a good hit(closer),,so I just kept lowering disc,,and sweeping,,,,when I got to -2.5--- Eureka!! With disc setting -2.5 in full tones using version 4,,, to me this sounds awfully close to version 3.2 does. Meaning the Deus over nails,,,give the rolling sounds,,with grunts. I hunted for around 2 hours using in the site,,,,and the site sounded like I was running 3.2 (almost),, and this here is BIG. Deus version 4,, based even on so far roughly 8 hours in the field,,,has even more of an inate ability to find nonferrous in iron and nails,,,but ALSO has the more inate ability even a user will listen to tone intelligence/ characteristics,,,to ID ferrous materials with unusually shapes,,including round(er). And before a person says,,Well Deus has always liked round,,,yes I know this,,,but I think now,,,even in a separation and unmasking detecting scenario,,,it is seeing more here on even ferrous,,,and I think this carries over to the nonferrous side as well. Some folks may have thought Deus version 3.2 was the end all for Xp,,,well I got news for those who thought --Wrong. I do realize due to weather, some Deus users are grounded so to speak,,,all I can say,,is if you are a Deus runner,,and enjoyed running full tones using 3.2 with zero and even lower disc,,,I highly recommend you opt for disc setting of -2.5,, for your self,,,to at least establish a base line of sorts,,,this I think will help you and speed up your learning curve overall. In the pic,,ferrous on top,,nonferrous on the bottom. The 2 nonferrous button and brass thingy,,dug on edge around 5-5.5" deep,,the bigger item towards the right is lead,,,looks a lot like the find I dug earlier here. This particualr find,,,I would almost bet the farm,,if swung over using Deus version 3.2,, user would be thinking iron. The little musket ball,,a mere 1.5" deep,,,covered with ferrous too,,and the little flat button a mere 3" deep. The iron finds,,they had quite a bit of signature of being nonferrous,,,I really think Deus with version 3.2 would have be used to study these targets,,,likely would have called them moreso iron. Not as much of a way to base audio on the shape of ferrous. Seems version 4 has narrowed the gap a bit as far as ferrous and nonferrous,, distinguishing with tone. I have always said,,and folks I think don't realize this,,,most folks seem to guide their thinking on how well a detector sees nonferrous or alerts on it or recognizes it. But something equally important is how a detector recognizes iron and nails and the degree to which they do. I mean a detector has to do both well,,to be a very good detecto IMO. I would also bet,, version 4 Deus is better on say half of coins in ground and in nails and iron vs Deus 3.2. Dragnet is wider using version 4.0....
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