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  1. has anyone played around with silencer much? Whenever I switch reactivity you know that the silencer changes with it and I usually then adjust silencer to 0 but I SHOULD try silencer where the reactivity says to... but I don't. Has anyone played around with it much to see what effects it has? thanks for all the great posts. gene
  2. Well, this video is not nugget detecting but it as close as I can get so far to the Deus elliptical coil so it will have to do....
  3. Alright, another hunt today,,5 hours long,,same site as yesterday. I feel the need to share some I think worthy information. Xp Deus version 4,, is quite a bit different from version 3.2. Overall it is better,,will I think make some sites come alive again,,hunted previously with any detector really even Deus and previous versions to Version 4. I listened close today,,and did make some worthy finds,,,considering all or maybe some of these has had a detector coil over them by me personally during the course of the last 6 years. So what is different with version 4?? First let me say,,,so far my exclusive use of version 4 really is running the hot program. I ran disc setting again today using full tones disc between 2.0 and 2.5., I did find a few finds by using,,and with time in the site today,,I really started bearing down. My goal was to try and start seeing if by audio alone and how it behaved,,could I start cracking the code on maybe trying to realize what real challenged nonferrous might just sound like. Well I tried using the disc settings above,,,whalt happened??? I was digging nails,,,yes nails sounded pretty darn good,,,one thing though about these signals here I was digging,,they were a bit shorter,,but has the other characteristics of usually what a good hit would sound like. Well as I went t along,,I got over another one of these similar behaving/sounding targets,,,so I'm saying to myself,,huh and other nail??? Well here is where the light bulb started brighter,,,I started reducing disc,,got to zero,. this suspect target still sounded like a good hit(closer),,so I just kept lowering disc,,and sweeping,,,,when I got to -2.5--- Eureka!! With disc setting -2.5 in full tones using version 4,,, to me this sounds awfully close to version 3.2 does. Meaning the Deus over nails,,,give the rolling sounds,,with grunts. I hunted for around 2 hours using in the site,,,,and the site sounded like I was running 3.2 (almost),, and this here is BIG. Deus version 4,, based even on so far roughly 8 hours in the field,,,has even more of an inate ability to find nonferrous in iron and nails,,,but ALSO has the more inate ability even a user will listen to tone intelligence/ characteristics,,,to ID ferrous materials with unusually shapes,,including round(er). And before a person says,,Well Deus has always liked round,,,yes I know this,,,but I think now,,,even in a separation and unmasking detecting scenario,,,it is seeing more here on even ferrous,,,and I think this carries over to the nonferrous side as well. Some folks may have thought Deus version 3.2 was the end all for Xp,,,well I got news for those who thought --Wrong. I do realize due to weather, some Deus users are grounded so to speak,,,all I can say,,is if you are a Deus runner,,and enjoyed running full tones using 3.2 with zero and even lower disc,,,I highly recommend you opt for disc setting of -2.5,, for your self,,,to at least establish a base line of sorts,,,this I think will help you and speed up your learning curve overall. In the pic,,ferrous on top,,nonferrous on the bottom. The 2 nonferrous button and brass thingy,,dug on edge around 5-5.5" deep,,the bigger item towards the right is lead,,,looks a lot like the find I dug earlier here. This particualr find,,,I would almost bet the farm,,if swung over using Deus version 3.2,, user would be thinking iron. The little musket ball,,a mere 1.5" deep,,,covered with ferrous too,,and the little flat button a mere 3" deep. The iron finds,,they had quite a bit of signature of being nonferrous,,,I really think Deus with version 3.2 would have be used to study these targets,,,likely would have called them moreso iron. Not as much of a way to base audio on the shape of ferrous. Seems version 4 has narrowed the gap a bit as far as ferrous and nonferrous,, distinguishing with tone. I have always said,,and folks I think don't realize this,,,most folks seem to guide their thinking on how well a detector sees nonferrous or alerts on it or recognizes it. But something equally important is how a detector recognizes iron and nails and the degree to which they do. I mean a detector has to do both well,,to be a very good detecto IMO. I would also bet,, version 4 Deus is better on say half of coins in ground and in nails and iron vs Deus 3.2. Dragnet is wider using version 4.0....
  4. I've been bored on my dog sitting endeavor, so I've studied up on the Deus, and looked at a history of used sales. At least in the near term, it doesn't look like the Deus will be available in a strictly High Frequency model. So you're stuck buying the whole kit and then adding the HF coil. Retail for the whole kit is $1520.00 and then another $400.00 for the HF coil. The $1520.00 kit includes the wireless backphones and the main controller. The "puck" on the backphones can be removed and used as a standalone controller, albeit without the "expert" menus. Personally, I see no need for the backphones, the main wireless controller is really all you need and has all the "expert" menus. I've looked at buying the components individually, but you still end up paying dearly. The controller retails for $800.00, used ones on Ebay are roughly $500.00. The original (non HF) black 9" coil, retails for close to $500.00, used ones sell in the range of $300.00. The backphones retail for over $300.00, used ones sell for $200.00. A used Deus kit with backphone and controller sells for somewhere between $1000.00 and $1200.00, not very many are available though and they get snapped up quick. Rob at Rob's Detectors has a very lightly used one for sale at a good price, you'd have to check with him on actual price and shipping. So, if you assembled a Deus HF detector from components at retail, you'd spend roughly $1500.00. If you bought used rod/shaft, and controller, with a new HF coil, you're looking at just over $1000.00. Or,you could buy the whole kit and sell off the components you don't need. Better still, you get the whole kit, add a new shaft/rod assembly and end up with two detectors, one equipped with the "puck", the other with the main controller. Just random thoughts from a bored dog sitter. I'm in S. Cal right now, but sunny Yuma by the Sea will see temps of 118 to 120 this week. I'll get home just in time the catch those max temps, sweet!
  5. Received my MI-6 pinpointer today. A few comments. I have tested and used a little bit. Nice addition I feel to anyone operating a Deus unit. Will benefit both Deus lite package users as well as packages containing the remote unit. The pinpointer if a person has the remote, will have no problem knowing if the pinpointer is switched on or off just by glancing at the remote, not so with Deus lite package ( looking at headphone module). Unit easily pairs to actual Deus unit. Notice I said Deus Lite package above (no remote). This brings up a good question for dealers here, and I will be posting this actual thread on another forum where actual dealers sponsor. For good reason too. Folks who opt to purchase Deus lite package, if I am correct there, if a dealer will use an "in house" remote and pair the pinpointer for Deus lite purchaser,,the pinpointer can in fact be used in an actual interface fashion. And with drop shipping, yes this could be a problem. But I think if a person looks around, maybe they can find a dealer with items in stock at dealership. I do have a question for Craig (detecting Mo). If the pointer is paired using the remote of course for say a person who has Deus Lite unit, later on after this has transpired,,can the Deus lite owner operator,, can they actually unpair the pinpointer intentionally or accidentally, making pairing void, hence since the person wouldn't have a remote to re pair,,they would be SOL. Am I right here Craig with my thinking. I like the belt clip and how it rotates. I have played with the non interfaced option of using, still not ready to comment on it just yet. Will say for folks buying pinpointer,,and if a person is thinking of later upgrading or buying a Deus unit,, you might want to go the MI-6 route,, and yes it can be used it seems at least to the satisfactory level with any Vlf detector. http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/local/Xpmda/Frontend/assets/docs/MI-6_Manual.pdf More to come maybe.
  6. We had a cold snap in sunny Yuma, low 70's at sunup. Didn't reach 80 till nearly 9am. I took the Deus out for a little testing in an area we have absolutely hammered with every known detector. I didn't find any gold, but the Deus surprised me with some of its capabilities. Per our discussion on the Notch vs. Discrimination theory, I set up the machine for 3 tones, relying on tone discrimination rather than true Notch or Iron Discrimination. With the Deus software the first setpoint for Tone discrimination really becomes a null, so 3 tones becomes 2 tones. It's actually a little more complicated than that, but won't help us for this discussion. So, I set the first actual audio tone, (2nd notch) for iron ID of between 0 and 20, and made it as low an audio tone as was possible. The next Tone breakpoint takes over from an ID of 20, where the last one left off, and all out way out to the end of range in the '90s. That tone is our sweet tone, you can set it at any level your hearing prefers. During my previous outings over undug targets, gold ID'd in the mid '50s. If you recall my first outing with the new HF coil, I was underwhelmed with the audio. Over a test nugget at the time, I missed the dynamic "zip" audio of the Gold Bug II. I thought the Deus audio somewhat anemic at the time. That all changed for me today. Using the remote to access the menu functions, I upped the audio response to 6 from the preset of 4. Wow, what a difference. So much difference that the machine got a little "chattery" in some of the hotter ground. But I live by "chattery" using the Z7000, so I just went with it. I found half a dozen shotgun pellets that just screamed dig me, showing a VID between 55 and 60, the same as gold. I buried a .25 gram nugget in some of the hottest ground I could find. The machine clipped and chirped, but at about 5 inches, the audio over the nugget was bright and crisp. No mistaking that audio, everything I thought I missed about the GBII audio, was alive and well in the Deus. Over the same test nugget and same hot ground I played with the other settings. I was running Sens at 85 and upped it to 90. While the target sound was somewhat brighter, the resulting feedback from the ground would have negated it for practical use in the field. Steve H would find a way to run this machine maxed out, but for me less was better. Raising the Reactivity helped quiet the "chatteryness", but I wanted to run the machine as wide open as possible. I settled on a Reactivity of 2. I then played with the Discrimination over the same nugget in the same hole. I ran it from negative 6, to positive 10. I found no benefit in this ground to running max negative Discrim, but a sweet spot seemed to be around negative 3. The more positive discrimination above +6 starts to give the test nugget at 5 inch depth, a breaking audio, alternating from the Iron tone to a true gold tone. No bueno for real life field prospecting, although it would be enough to make you stop and investigate. The Deus has a separate control for Iron volume, but that is disabled when running negative Discrimination. So, my current working theory is running Discrimination at +1, setting the iron volume at 1, then using the (Low)Tone feature to handle the rest of ordinary Iron problems out to an ID of 20. I tried the Deus standard Goldfield Program over the same ground. It just didn't do it for me so I left off without really giving it a true workout. Maybe it works, but I wanted to fiddle with all the other features of this machine. I'm off to ranch sit, taking care of horses and dogs for the next week or so. No more moments of clarity with the Deus till I make up to CA gold country. I might make it out for some beach detecting, so who knows. Until then, keep er low and slow.
  7. According to the latest post on XP's blog the frequencies of the HF coils are different than published before. The 9" round HF is now 14-30-59 KHz and the Elliptical HF, available in May 2017 is now 14-30-81 KHz. With 81KHz the Deus V4 should be even more sensitive than the GB2. https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/02/10/deus-update-v4-uk/deus-update-v4-uk.pdf
  8. Took my two boys (they make the perfect cover) to an elementary school playground today, Sunday. I had found a silver ring here a few weeks back. Decided to run Deus 4.0 around the place. More or less walked random wavey patterns in the courtyard between the building and the playground when not tending to the needs of the youngest. Just sitting ducks for any detectorist. Almost every target was an isolated signal surface to 8". Took the 62' quarter at 8" - which was an unexpected coin. Only one good ring. The gold plate ring is a Lord Of The Rings copy. I've barely made a dent in the courtyard. Still a practice field, BB courts, another original playground, and the loading zones. Hopefully there is some teacher/parent gold lurking around there. Keep on swingin!
  9. OK, after all the kind words and get well wishes from my incautious adventuring on Outing IV, I went back out in the wilds of Sunny Yuma. Stitches out, hand still sore, groin injury tolerable. I left for the local Colorado River area on Wed afternoon to catch a few sundown largemouth bass with plans to hike what passes for mountains down here on Thur morning. Bass fishing was great, but I just couldn't get comfortable in a kayak with a bum knee and aching hamstring. I persevered and caught a couple nice bass. I slept on the boat, not the kayak mind you, and started hiking at sunup. I set the Deus HF up a little bit different thinking there would be no trash. I used the standard "Fast" program but added "negative" Discrimination available in the V4 update, Sens at 85, Freq 54, Reactivity 2. Right away I hit a couple ferrous trash targets that easily registered between 2 and 4 on the VID. Both modern type nails but the VID was spot on. Next I hit an old .22 shell casing with a VID of 74. I then hit the first nugget, the smallest of the two. It showed a solid VID of 58 and weighs .28 gram. Great start for the morning. I then hit a few more ferrous targets registering in the 2 to 4 VID and I didn't bother to dig. Next came the bigger nugget just shy of 1 gram. It was probably 4 to 6 inches deep and showed a solid VID of 55. When I rounded the next bend in the wash I found a small section of old drywash tailings up on the shoulder of the wash. Full of 1950's era trash, nails, screws and wire, apparently the source of the trash in the wash. One thing fooled me though, a deep tobacco tin registering in the high 60's and mid 70's on the VID. By then 2 hrs on, it was getting hot, mid 80's temps and I had a long walk back. I decided to take a short-cut, over the top of the mountains. Rarely a good idea, especially with an already bum knee and sore hamstring. Nevertheless I packed the Deus in my pack and broke out the trekking poles for the hike. I ended up finding a decent Mountain Sheep trail that wound me through the hills and out to within a 1/2 mile of my destination. When I got home and unpacked my gear I realized that I am a "Maroon" (Nurse Paul/Nevada Chris saying) and had left the Deus Control Unit and Earphones laying on a rock ledge while I packed the pack for the trek back. So tomorrow I'm headed back out there, although I think I'll take the GPZ 7000 and look for some deeper nuggets. I think I'm really getting the hang of this Deus. There is no threshold and over hot ground it clips and chirps. I'm sure that would affect depth ultimately, but it does what is expected for discriminating the ferrous trash. I think, although I can't be certain, the "negative" Discrimination makes the targets much more reactive on the VID screen. The "Horseshoe" screen was useless at these settings, however the VID was quite helpful. This machine is not bump sensitive and weighs next to nothing, after dragging that Z around, no kidding. I'm sure the Minelab Monster is going to be a great unit, but I'm sticking with this Deus. It's ultimately packable and reasonably forgiving on its settings. A great addition for the kind of detecting I do. Until the next time kids, Condor out.
  10. Took the Deus to my beaten jewelry patch at a park and decided to relic hunt for deep squeakers instead. There used to be a farmstead on the land and a road bisecting the park...both long gone. Hunting slowly 18khz, 0 discrim, silencer -1, reactivity 3, notch 0-38, I caught a signal nearly at the edge of detection. Two directions two different tones and faint. Pinpointing was difficult wiggling-off. I switched to 8khz, and dropped reactivity to see what's up, something I don't normally do. Loud and clear two directions two different tones...hmmmm? Stabbing into the soil I'm stopped dead at 1-2 inches by a hard object. Move 90 degrees, damn, same thing. On the fourth stinking try I see a brick and think, I'm not digging that up it'll leave a crater, but the pinpointer is flipping out saying dig. I found another brick below that one and both bricks sat at 45 with the signal coming between them. Stabbing between the bricks with just enough space for my screwdriver it's a wonder I didn't scratch it as I was kind of wildly flicking soil out. Must have been near 7 to 8 inches and it was on a 45 degree angle. I didn't even know what it was except United States and a number 2. I knew it was my oldest coin found though. I've hit a few silver dimes and several Indian cents in this unasuming park but never did I think it would give up a coin like that. I've taken it to a coin dealer and he says it's too worn to ID the variety and to soak it in oil...where it still sits. Keep on swingin'!
  11. At least one Australian dealer is selling what is being called the XP Deus "GoldField" High Frequency Gold Package. This is a fairly normal Deus setup but with the 9" round high frequency coil. Items included: XP Deus Full Featured Remote control Unit. (Ten Built in Programs including Gold field with one touch ground balancing.) XP Deus 9 Inch (22.5cm) HIGH Frequency coil - The white one. (15, 30 and 55 kHz + 7 Shifts for each, 21 frequencies total) S-Shaped Telescopic shaft. 240V Charger with 3 way cable Arm Band 2 sets of coil connecting hardware User manual Hip Mount case for Remote control 5 Year Warranty FREE FX-02 Wired Backphones Priced at $1899 Australian (US$1415.00) I do not know if this is going to be a standard package or is just something the Aussie dealer put together, but it would make sense for XP to offer HF coil package options since they do it for other coils. There may end up being an elliptical coil version and possibly even a version like the Depar DPR 600 Even at $1400 the HF Deus is a lot more money than something like the Minelab Gold Monster but the DPR 600 would be much more price competitive with dedicated nugget detectors should XP choose to market it outside Africa.
  12. Deus rules maybe 25cm deep..clear sound and vdi number..
  13. I am going to update this thread/post with links to any reviews of the Deus HF coils I can find as they appear. Remember, the high frequency (HF) coils only work with V4. Andy Sabisch 9" HF Coil Review Condor - First Impressions 9" HF Coil Condor - Second Outing 9" HF Coil Condor - Third Outing 9" HF Coil Aussie Detectorist Gives 9" HF Coil A Go Paul(CA) Tries The 9" HF Coil In Thick Iron Trash
  14. click picture for closeup view We have been told that the new XP Deus V4 elliptical high frequency coil is coming in May. The 9" round version is now in dealer hands and shipping to customers for US$425.00 I have been following early reports on the 9" round and it along with the new V4 update sounds like it really does have many improvements over the version 3.2 coils when it comes to gold prospecting. Specifically, more ability to extract small non-ferrous targets from bad ground. The Deus was not half bad as it was but this update may make it a real contender due to the much higher frequency options. I am skipping the 9" round and waiting for the elliptical. Here are the specifics on it as gleaned from the V4 Update Summary All specifications are preliminary and subject to change! The coil comes with the lower rod, and unlike the existing coils the battery is in the lower stem and connected to the coil via a cable (see illustration below). The exact dimensions of the coil are 24 cm x 13 cm or 9.45" x 5.12" The coil operates at three primary frequencies, each adjustable via offsets (three up or down). The offsets are mostly intended for alleviating interference issues and the primaries should be used when possible for best performance. The ranges are as follows (primaries in bold): 13 kHz < 14 kHz > 15.7 kHz 26 kHz < 30 kHz > 31 kHz 68 kHz < 80 kHz > 81 kHz For reference White's MXT @ 14 kHz, White's GMT @ 48 kHz, Makro Gold Racer @ 56 kHz, Fisher Gold Bug 2 @ 71 kHz The operating frequency has a direct effect on the battery life. In general, the higher the frequency, the longer the operating time. At 14 kHz you can expect up to 20 hours, at 30 kHz up to 27 hours, and at 80 kHz up to 28 hours of operating time. I have to say I am pretty excited to get my hands on this coil and see how it compares to other detectors in its class. I always wanted a detector that could flip from a solid mid-frequency to a solid higher frequency. What seems like ages ago I proposed a "Gold Bug 3" that could run at either 17.8 kHz like a Tesoro Lobo or 71 kHz like a Gold Bug 2 and that had both ground tracking and manual ground balance. This coil actually goes a bit better by flipping from the solid 14 kHz frequency of the MXT all the way up to 80 kHz, topping the Gold Bug 2. The 30 kHz selection is a rare frequency only ever seen in a few machines, like the Fisher Gold Strike. And yes, there will be both manual ground balance plus automatic ground tracking, improved ferrous discrimination, and full visual target id while in all metal mode. The main thing I am seeing here however is the first detector that might truly eliminate my need until now to own both a mid frequency VLF for general purpose use plus a high frequency unit for the hots on tiny gold. Whether those two things can be truly and well integrated into one machine remains to be seen but I have to say I am hopeful. For more details on the Deus V4 update see the XP DEUS V4 Users Manual
  15. Seems some folks already experiencing problems. http://www.findmall.com/read.php?83,2369596
  16. I got back out with the Deus HF today. I pushed into an area I have strenuously avoided with non-discriminating detectors because it is littered with 1940's vintage rusted out cans and ferrous junk. I ran the Deus with the same settings as on my 2nd go. I picked up the 2 biggest nuggets right next to an old pile of cans. The GPZ would have been howling with just proximity to that much junk. I wondered how hot the 9" round HF coil would be on small stuff. I got my answer, the smallest was .07 gram wedged in a tiny bedrock crack. The signal was unmistakable, although I was doubting it until I busted out the crack. The biggest surprise was a ring down in a bedrock pocket. I dismissed it as a piece of plumbing copper expansion collar until I looked closely and saw engraved initials and a stamp indicating 14k. Perhaps it was originally plated with 14k gold, but after a quick soak in CLR, it sure looks like copper to me. I'm really liking the Deus for this kind of detecting. Shallow bedrock, littered with old junk. The discrimination is spot on. I dug a number of targets just to check. Iffy targets like modern nails will bust through the discrimination if you don't tickle the edges and let the software do it's stuff. I still dug a lot of non-ferrous junk like copper wire and lead bullet fragments, but tolerable at these depths. Deus = good times in trashy ground
  17. Could a deus xp serve both purpose of a vlf machine while having a very good discrimination ? Or gmt or gb2 and gbp be a better choice ?
  18. Great app with deus.. https://m.apkpure.com/xp-detect-unreleased/cz.juicymo.contracts.android.xpdetect
  19. I saw this over at Tom's and laughed my posterior off! This is not new - it refers to the delay announced back in September. At that time is was said "A test phase will take place in October and November 2016, and then, we will be able to announce a launch date." Well, I have not heard anything since and December is almost over, so this video really rings a bell with me. I admit recently I was thinking I should just sell the stupid thing, since the only reason I really got my Deus over a year ago was to try the V4 update! DO NOT WATCH THIS IF YOU ARE OFFENDED BY LOTS, AND I MEAN LOTS OF PROFANITY!!!!!
  20. I took the XP Deus, with new HF round coil, out for another go. I had detected this bedrock desert wash a few years ago with the Gold Bug II and did pretty well. Last year I went over it with the SDC 2300, but it was overkill. The ground is not hot enough, nor deep enough, to justify "pulse induction" and there was a lot of iron trash. To reach this wash takes a pretty good hike over rough terrain. Carrying the Deus strapped to my pack was a breeze and I deliberately left my 7000 at home. The temps reached a little over 100 here in Sunny Yuma, so pack weight starts to matter. As you can see in the photo this is old conglomerate type false bedrock wash. There are sections of deeper gravels, but the amount of old iron trash really makes it unattractive for the Z 7000. I started out in the Deus standard V4 Gold Program. It worked fine, but I really needed some discrimination to handle the nails and fragments of old rusted out cans. I switched to the V4 standard "Fast" program only because I had used it to hunt a few parks. With the "Fast", I took the discrimination down to 4, and lowered to Reactivity to 2, Sens to 85, running in the 54 KHZ mode. The machine ran like a dream. Iron trash basically grunted and clicked in the discrimination. Larger iron trash busted through the discrimination, but was still recognizable with decent coil control. The little pickers I found barely registered on the "horseshoe" screen and never gave a VID signature. They were however, unmistakable audio target signals. I should have tried the XY screen, but forgot all about it. None of these nuggets was any deeper than a couple inches, so in essence any competent prospecting detector would have found them. I did check one target in the 22 KHZ mode and while recognizable, it was nowhere near as definite as the 54 KHZ. The 9" round coil at 54KHZ is plenty hot enough for small gold, my smallest was .12 gram. In retrospect I should have waited for the elliptical to make pinpointing and recovery a little less cumbersome. I detected for about 2 hrs before the heat became unbearable. I have a couple short videos on my smartphone, but I'm too computer illiterate to edit and post. I'll try to get my son to fix them and put them up. I am very happy with the XP Deus, shout out thanks to Rob's Detectors. As the other Steve has observed, the Deus in theory replaces 2 detectors with just one. For me, it is now a very competent shallow gold prospecting detector in addition to its superb coin and relic hunting origin. It more than meets my expectations and certainly has a place in my detecting arsenal.
  21. Just wondering how well this new coil actually is for nugget shooting. I haven't got into nugget hunting yet. If I do would I be better off spending the money on something else? I already have the Xp but haven't heard anything much for nugget shooting with this new coil. Be nugget shooting in Nv areas where I live. Thx for any help.
  22. Some random notes, and if you don't know what I am talking about as regards some detail of this machine or that I apologize. Well, I finally updated my XP Deus with 11" coil to the version 4 update. Then I hauled it and the Nokta Impact with 11" and Teknetics G2 with 11" out for several hours of cross checking coin type targets. The G2 is a Gold Bug Pro variant running at 19 kHz and I put it up against the Deus at 18 kHz and Impact at 20 kHz. I acquired the G2 new recently to use specifically as a benchmark unit because I am very familiar with it and because in my opinion it does 19 kHz as well as it can be done. I spent hours swapping machines as the hunt machine, then cross checking the undug targets with the other two. Lots of settings tried, with the main goal to try and find some deep fringe type target or target in trash where any machine can get a clear and definable edge. Well good luck with that. All I mainly did was impress myself again with what a little powerhouse the Gold Bug Pro/G2 is for the price. It is fairly mineralized ground but not the worst, 5 bars out of 7 on the G2 Fe3O4 meter, ground balance about 86. The only real "aha" moment was in learning the Impact really likes to upscale shallow small foil when in 5 kHz mode, but shoves the id back down to where it should be at 14 kHz or 20 kHz. All the machines like to upscale deeper aluminum in this ground. All three seemed to get tricked in much the same way on certain targets, like a deep pull tab reading like a dime. For gold hunting purposes I do not mind machines upscaling low conductive targets, and in fact the Impact 5khz mode may have a benefit in nugget detecting because it does want to push light foil (and therefore small gold) higher. But for coin detecting upscaling aluminum is annoying. Pretty much par for the course however for mid to higher single frequency machines. I found running the Impact in VLX1 was nice as I could flip over just one click to the Gen(D) mixed mode program for a dramatically different read and better target definition. Target id numbers in my ground are slightly higher in the "expanded ferrous" modes like VLX1 and VLX2 compared to DI3 and DI4. The Deus V4 Gold Field program does seem to pack some extra punch now, be fun to get it out nugget hunting once the elliptical coil hits the streets. The new Deep mode really seems great while the new Hot mode is, shall I say it, interesting. First time I have used the X-Y screens also. The G2 is what it is, almost no controls but it gets the job done with what it has, and good solid id. Deus and Impact in the other hand have countless options and programs to try, but by and large there is no magic bullet. Three great machines, I can hunt with any of them. It will take a lot more hours to sort it all out. I find when running machines that are all hitting the VLF Wall that it is the "other things" that get my notice. The Impact is obviously the heavier of the three (4 lbs 4.7 oz / 1946 grams), although very well balanced, so I give the feel on my arm award to the G2 (3 lbs 1.5 oz / 1404 grams) and the Deus (2 lbs 4.0 oz / 1020 grams with 11" coil and control box). The G2 and Deus are neck and neck in the comfort department FOR ME* but the G2 feels ever so slightly better to me, I am guessing because the coil is lighter on the G2. The G2 slays both the Impact and Deus for speaker volume if run without headphones, but on the other hand it has no volume control so would be too loud for some situations. Been awhile since I ran a Gold Bug Pro / G2 unit and caught myself when switching from disc mode to all metal when cross checking at one point and forgetting that the "big number" changes from target id in disc mode to ground phase in all metal mode, so I was looking at the ground phase instead of the little speedometer thinking it was target id for a couple goes. That one quirk always had me liking the F75 versus the Bug in all metal. I wish Fisher made a 19 kHz F75! *On arm comfort is a very subjective subject. In particular it has a great deal to do with the size of a persons hands plus length and thickness of their forearm, and their height. You really can't take any one persons word on this subject as it is like buying hiking boots. What fits one person does not fit another. It is not all about detector weight by a long shot. Balance is very important as is the all important hand grip. I am 5' 11" with forearms on the thinner side and smallish hands. For instance, my forearm really bounces around in the large Impact armrest area. The Deus armrest which may be too small for some fits me better. For me personally, the 3.5 lb Teknetics T2 / Fisher F75 is the most comfortable detector I have ever used. It is superbly balanced and something about the hand grip that narrows to the top as it cants forward really makes my hand happy. I can squeeze the armrest shut to fit my arm. So if you find the F75 to be a great fit for you, my comments apply to you. If you hate the T2/F75 setup then what I have to say is less important.
  23. Deus v4 rules +mi6 pointer..