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  1. Alright, another hunt today,,5 hours long,,same site as yesterday. I feel the need to share some I think worthy information. Xp Deus version 4,, is quite a bit different from version 3.2. Overall it is better,,will I think make some sites come alive again,,hunted previously with any detector really even Deus and previous versions to Version 4. I listened close today,,and did make some worthy finds,,,considering all or maybe some of these has had a detector coil over them by me personally during the course of the last 6 years. So what is different with version 4?? First let me say,,,so far my exclusive use of version 4 really is running the hot program. I ran disc setting again today using full tones disc between 2.0 and 2.5., I did find a few finds by using,,and with time in the site today,,I really started bearing down. My goal was to try and start seeing if by audio alone and how it behaved,,could I start cracking the code on maybe trying to realize what real challenged nonferrous might just sound like. Well I tried using the disc settings above,,,whalt happened??? I was digging nails,,,yes nails sounded pretty darn good,,,one thing though about these signals here I was digging,,they were a bit shorter,,but has the other characteristics of usually what a good hit would sound like. Well as I went t along,,I got over another one of these similar behaving/sounding targets,,,so I'm saying to myself,,huh and other nail??? Well here is where the light bulb started brighter,,,I started reducing disc,,got to zero,. this suspect target still sounded like a good hit(closer),,so I just kept lowering disc,,and sweeping,,,,when I got to -2.5--- Eureka!! With disc setting -2.5 in full tones using version 4,,, to me this sounds awfully close to version 3.2 does. Meaning the Deus over nails,,,give the rolling sounds,,with grunts. I hunted for around 2 hours using in the site,,,,and the site sounded like I was running 3.2 (almost),, and this here is BIG. Deus version 4,, based even on so far roughly 8 hours in the field,,,has even more of an inate ability to find nonferrous in iron and nails,,,but ALSO has the more inate ability even a user will listen to tone intelligence/ characteristics,,,to ID ferrous materials with unusually shapes,,including round(er). And before a person says,,Well Deus has always liked round,,,yes I know this,,,but I think now,,,even in a separation and unmasking detecting scenario,,,it is seeing more here on even ferrous,,,and I think this carries over to the nonferrous side as well. Some folks may have thought Deus version 3.2 was the end all for Xp,,,well I got news for those who thought --Wrong. I do realize due to weather, some Deus users are grounded so to speak,,,all I can say,,is if you are a Deus runner,,and enjoyed running full tones using 3.2 with zero and even lower disc,,,I highly recommend you opt for disc setting of -2.5,, for your self,,,to at least establish a base line of sorts,,,this I think will help you and speed up your learning curve overall. In the pic,,ferrous on top,,nonferrous on the bottom. The 2 nonferrous button and brass thingy,,dug on edge around 5-5.5" deep,,the bigger item towards the right is lead,,,looks a lot like the find I dug earlier here. This particualr find,,,I would almost bet the farm,,if swung over using Deus version 3.2,, user would be thinking iron. The little musket ball,,a mere 1.5" deep,,,covered with ferrous too,,and the little flat button a mere 3" deep. The iron finds,,they had quite a bit of signature of being nonferrous,,,I really think Deus with version 3.2 would have be used to study these targets,,,likely would have called them moreso iron. Not as much of a way to base audio on the shape of ferrous. Seems version 4 has narrowed the gap a bit as far as ferrous and nonferrous,, distinguishing with tone. I have always said,,and folks I think don't realize this,,,most folks seem to guide their thinking on how well a detector sees nonferrous or alerts on it or recognizes it. But something equally important is how a detector recognizes iron and nails and the degree to which they do. I mean a detector has to do both well,,to be a very good detecto IMO. I would also bet,, version 4 Deus is better on say half of coins in ground and in nails and iron vs Deus 3.2. Dragnet is wider using version 4.0....
  2. Enjoy http://www.findmall.com/read.php?83,2385963
  3. Published on Aug 4, 2017 - Testing the new Deus HF elliptical coil against the Garrett AT Gold on a gold earring.
  4. http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/deus/548580-xp-deus-v4-1-beta-now-live.html
  5. This post here for folks interested in Xp Deus, new users of detector and anyone else desiring more information. Goal here is to make this more of a one stop shop for folks looking for information concerning Xp Deus. I highly encourage all to read the version 4.0 manual. It can be found online. A lot of Deus units received by folks may indeed have 3.x manuals provided with their units. After you use your new unit, go back reread portions of the manual. And again repeat this. It will take more than a few times to comprehend all. And some in field use and testing will go a long ways in understanding some of what is stated in manual. Deus is not a dead quiet running unit!!!! It will chirp, if used to detect. Don't be trying to get it not to chirp. Deus, the way it IDs targets is a break away from tradition here when compared to most other Vlf detectors. A person air testing their units, this air testing (as it relates to ID) don't paint true pic of how Deus actually works in the field. A lot of what Deus can do, how it will sound, how it will react,,,these tendencies can be mimicked a great deal with on top of the ground tests using nonferrous objects and item made of ferrous commonly found while detecting. Navigation of unit needs to be mastered. The only way to do this is to navigate, and peek around. Especially under the expert tabs. Mineralization meter. New users should heed the data this meter provides to user. It can and will affect some settings as far as performance. Ground balance User has options. KISS priinciple should be applied here. A pumping GB over clean ground to start off with. Understand the icons for pairing of devices as depicted on remote (if applicable) Understand the 2 boxes where ground phase data is supplied. Be mindful of silencer setting, this setting can be changed on its own, depending on selected reactvity setting chosen. Understand some audio volume while over deeper targets can be had with audio report levels 5 and higher. Deus disc layout is not your typical disc layout. If offers disc settings expressed in tenths with some settings. New users IMO should steer away from all metal modes of detector excluding the use of pinpoint function. Users should study the factory program settings depicted toward the rear of manual. Users should learn what the term Vdi normalization means, and by turning this feature off,,,know how both means affect detector readings, and find out any advantages by using one setting or the other. Understand Deus doesn't have a depth meter per SE,,,but does offer other means to judge depth (generally on coin sized objects). Understand the notch feature. It's use and affects is not exactly what a person would think, due to the way Deus IDs targets in the field. When asking others for Deus advice,,,you should provide you soil mineral levels generally found in your sites. Like refer to mineralization index meter readings as low scale, mid scale or 3/4 scale. Deus will behave differently here depending on what the index meter says. Users should learn how to marry their components themselves. Very good chance your deus detector will arrive with all components married to one another. Pay very close attention to proper charging instructions as far as how the charging clip is connected. I think this information above. Will get a person on their way. Here is link with summary of what version 4 brings. http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/xp-deus-version-4-features Here is link with actual Deus V4 users manual. http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/telechargement/Instruction manual/DEUS_V4_MANUAL_UK.pdf Now these links, when read and studied may cause some folks to asked some questions. By all means ask. With the talent of folks that visits and or post on this forum, you'll likely get an answer. Folks will notice the Deus Lite package. This is package without remote. Here is some info shedding light on the Deus Lite package. You may see this referred to as Starter Pack. Here is what you have access to via wireless headphone module. Factory program number selection Remember some of the slots will be blank--- due to no upload Disc Sensitivity Ground balance-- only manual-- no tracking or pumping like you would have with remote Frequency Number of tones,, to include pitch and full tones Sound volume Coil selection-- in case you have more than one coil So you can see from above,,,you won't have access to the following,, remote purchase allows the following settings changes Notch Tone break setting Tone freq setting Reactivity Silencer Ground notch Iron vol adjustment Auto ground tracking Pumping GB option Vdi normalization option Xy screen option Update version option,, or downgrade version option Tx power setting Freq shift Overload setting Pinpoint function All metal mode(s) selection I think this is most of what you miss with wireless headphone module use ONLY. Additional comments here. A person purchasing a Deus package without remote. They can use another person's remote and infact update their headphone module and coil. They can by using someone's remote, actually program their setup with programs that entail making changes to the settings outlined above. (Remote only viewable/adjustable settings) If a user does this, they will not have a way to actually view (or change) these settings, but the settings will be felt by user when detecting. So a person would need to write down their settings per slot number on remote to remember which settings apply. Here's a link with multiple videos talking about Deus. http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/metal-detector/category/videos-xp/deus/ MI-6 pinpointer users manual http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/local/Xpmda/Frontend/assets/docs/MI-6_Manual.pdf Xp classroom and skills center videos. http://www.xp-detectors.co.uk To conclude here. Deus with latest released High Frequency coils looks to have made the Deus a better gold nugget finder. So even though this post is in the coin and relic section, gold nugget hunters may find this info useful too.
  6. This is a very preliminary report. I want to emphasize that I am a newbie on the XP Deus. Although I purchased an 11" Deus V3.2 model almost two years ago, it was with the express purpose of being able to test the V4 update with the new high frequency coil options for gold prospecting. I decided I was better off just starting fresh with version 4.0 before really digging in and learning the detector. I do get the hang of detectors quickly but this does show what can be done by somebody who went out barely knowing the machine. The other catch is that I picked a location that favors the Deus with relatively mild soil for a gold location, so mild I could run the machine full out to get the maximum possible sensitivity with the machine. These results are not going to be as easy to obtain in extreme mineral ground. You have to start someplace however and being new to the machine I wanted to give myself someplace easy to start. Finally, the goal here was to find the smallest gold I could so for the purposes of this report - smaller is better. These nuggets were recovered over the course of a day. Ten nuggets, 4.7 grains total weight. There are 480 grains per Troy ounce and with an average weight of less than half a grain I think you can agree this is some pretty small stuff. The smallest bits are probably near 1/10th grain or 1/4800th of a Troy ounce. Click picture for larger version. The new HF elliptical coil running at 74 kHz is clearly in the same league as the 71 kHz Fisher Gold Bug 2, 45 kHz Minelab Gold Monster, 56 kHz Makro Gold Racer, and 48 kHz White's GMT. However, the devil is in the details and it will be some time before I sort out how the machines compare under more difficult and varied conditions. Again, I am not an expert with the Deus and so the settings I mention are not to be taken as "the best" or anything like that. I was actually gold prospecting so the primary focus was to find gold, not to test every possible combination of settings on the Deus. With 10 program options and numerous settings that will be a longer term project. I obviously wanted to try the Gold Field program 10. After a little experimenting I settled on the GM Power program 2 as an alternate disc mode to try. Getting from program 10 to program 2 is only a couple button pushes, so I bounced back and forth between the two programs and tweaked settings higher as I found targets and could compare readings. Gold Field is a threshold based all metal mode with what I find to be a rather pleasant digitized buzz. That's me of course, others may differ on that point. I was able to run sensitivity full out at 99. All my work was done at 74 khz, the default highest frequency setting without trying to push it higher via the offset. I figure the coil is tuned at 74 khz and so stuck with that for now. Manual ground balance about 84. GM Power I got sensitivity to 94 with only minor falsing. I reduced reactivity (similar to SAT for you nugget hunters) to 0 from the default of 2 and ran the audio response (audio boost) up to 7 (max). Both modes exhibit just a little touch sensitivity at these high gain levels. This might be tamed with the ground notch but I have not fooled with that yet and it did not bother me at all anyway. What I found was Gold Field has a softer response in general but that my boosted version of GM Power banged hard on the little bits. Not unlike going from all metal mode on the Gold Bug 2 to the Iron Disc mode. Instead of faint threshold variations you get a strong "beep". The difference is that the Gold Bug 2 Iron Disc mode has an obvious loss in sensitivity. The Deus by comparison in this particular situation actually seemed to work better in GM Power mode, but that is mainly the boosted audio at work. I left the disc settings at the defaults for GM Power which worked well - low tone iron, higher tones non-ferrous. I ran the IAR (iron reject) in Gold Field at 2. This was just enough to cause ferrous to break up. Higher settings would blank most ferrous completely but getting to aggressive can also eliminate weak gold signals. The ferrous discrimination worked very well in both programs. GM Power in particular was pretty awesome in the nail pits with iron tones firing off like a machine gun. I bumped reactivity back to 2 in the dense trash. Anyway, this is a very preliminary report and so no point getting too deep into it as I will probably modify my opinions and settings as I get more time on the machine. Right now this is a high price option if all you need is a prospecting unit, but for a person wanting one machine to do everything XP just kicked it up a notch. If they introduce a dedicated gold unit at a lower price similar to the Depar DPR 600 it would be very competitive. For now this is an option for somebody that wants a detector for more than just gold prospecting since the Deus is a superb coin, relic, and jewelry detector. The elliptical coil and rod assembly is just 1 lb 13 oz (1.8 lbs) and so a true featherweight. At 5' 11" I have to run it fully extended and at that it does flex a bit, but I did not find that bothersome at all. A solid coil cover will be good as there are too many coil edges that want to hang up on rubble and sticks. A minor quibble however as the machine is a joy to handle, especially when reaching uphill waist high and higher. A great unit for poking in and around bushes and other obstructions. The coil is hotter at the tips which also helps in poking into tight locations. Early days but the final word is that I am happy with this coil so far after all the wait. Time will tell how it handles the really bad ground and how it fares directly against some of the competition.
  7. The new Deus HF elliptical coil has just slightly smaller dimensions than the 10" Gold Bug 2 coil. The Gold Bug 2 coil is solid and the Deus coil is an open web design. Even more important, the GB2 coil is a concentric as are all Gold Bug 2 coils. The Deus coil is a DD coil. This means the Deus has a more complex response on small shallow targets than the GB2 coil but the DD design may have advantages in more mineralized ground over the GB2 concentric coil.
  8. https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=249660 https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?p=2804506#post2804506
  9. Yesterday 150 pieces and 78 €.today 52 pieces and 31.50€ https://postimg.org/image/i4oz4p9kr/
  10. Well, this video is not nugget detecting but it as close as I can get so far to the Deus elliptical coil so it will have to do....
  11. Took the Deus to my beaten jewelry patch at a park and decided to relic hunt for deep squeakers instead. There used to be a farmstead on the land and a road bisecting the park...both long gone. Hunting slowly 18khz, 0 discrim, silencer -1, reactivity 3, notch 0-38, I caught a signal nearly at the edge of detection. Two directions two different tones and faint. Pinpointing was difficult wiggling-off. I switched to 8khz, and dropped reactivity to see what's up, something I don't normally do. Loud and clear two directions two different tones...hmmmm? Stabbing into the soil I'm stopped dead at 1-2 inches by a hard object. Move 90 degrees, damn, same thing. On the fourth stinking try I see a brick and think, I'm not digging that up it'll leave a crater, but the pinpointer is flipping out saying dig. I found another brick below that one and both bricks sat at 45 with the signal coming between them. Stabbing between the bricks with just enough space for my screwdriver it's a wonder I didn't scratch it as I was kind of wildly flicking soil out. Must have been near 7 to 8 inches and it was on a 45 degree angle. I didn't even know what it was except United States and a number 2. I knew it was my oldest coin found though. I've hit a few silver dimes and several Indian cents in this unasuming park but never did I think it would give up a coin like that. I've taken it to a coin dealer and he says it's too worn to ID the variety and to soak it in oil...where it still sits. Keep on swingin'!
  12. Finds first for the TLDR people. As the finds in my current primary patch dwindle in numbers from being worked heavily the past two years, I'm scouting for a new primary patch to begin working. Using the criteria and method outlined in a previous post, I've located a very good location that is certain to hold gold, silver, and more. Today will be my first time boots on the ground at that location and I'll walk the reader through it along with my scouting method. Maybe it will help someone and provide insight or encouragement. Here is the sat. view 5 playgrounds, one skate park, basketball, tennis, two soccer fields, two softball fields, two shelters, one former 1890's to 1950's church location on site. Here are my paths while scouting. Deus in red, V3i in green. So, from the sat. images there are many hot-spots to strike, and I won't try to get them all as this is a long term prospect, and I only desire to determine 3 primary things today. 1. Pressure - hunting pressure from other detectorists. 2. Trash composition and density. 3. Presence - Is there jewelry where I expect it to be. Deus gets the top spot today as it's the ideal scouting unit. Light, fast, great tones to read the trash. From the parking lot I begin and move to the skate park since it's close and can hold silver and junk jewelry along with lots of coins. Foil seems to be the primary trash along the way, and around the skate feature the aluminum kicks in - light can slaw and tabs primarily. I can hear lots and lots of coins, zinc and copper cents mostly, but a healthy quantity of dimes as well. I select a few targets I know are quarters and pennies, then intentionally sample some of the larger better sounding trash before moving on. The primary traffic flow from one side of the park to another is divided by a slight drainage ditch with the easiest pass being on either end... and people naturally take the easiest route, so I do too. Pennies everywhere! Zinc mostly, healthy dose of copper, decent selection of dimes, quite a few quarters...light trash mostly foil and ferrous bits... but I keep on moving through without digging a single target. Not interested today. Moving to the goal at the primary soccer field I work my way over to the nearest corner, then down the sideline to mid-field before cutting over to the center. Then I work my way to the opposite goal before coming around the back net. From there, and because of its close proximity to the goal, I briefly enter the playground before hitting the nearest corner of the soccer field diagonally opposite from the first corner I hit. Quarters everywhere! I decide to spend some time here sampling, cherry picking the best sounds. Within 10 minutes I found the heart pendant necklace. Jewelry confirmed, nice. So I pause, crank up the notch to 93 and take all the quarters before moving on. Erasing the notch I notice an area of the playground is different. Something was removed and not replaced. I suspect one of the super dangerous merry-go-rounds that children today get no experience or joy from used to be there. Clad everywhere....move on. Swing-set looks vintage so I check that and the mostly abandoned softball backstop area nearby. The trash picks up and bottle caps start to appear below the coil. I dug a first (for this park) beavertail ring pull, nice...a sign there might be some silver coins lurking around here. I'm getting hot by now so start thinking of shade and where to find some. It's scarce, so good places to concentrate. I mentally discriminate everything but quarters. Lots of nice signals, lots of trash and rusty caps. So far this is the trashiest area and I'm impressed it's not worse. Out of water and thirsty, I head back to the parking lot where I started, taking any quarters I come across. There are so many coins around it's obvious to me this park has never been heavily worked over by much of anyone in a long time, if ever. This place is a clad mine. Exactly how my current patch started out! I switch out units for the V3i and head towards the nearby secondary soccer field goal. I work one small corner of the goal net taking everything in a 6 foot diameter...clad and tabs mostly. Then I work right down the field towards the only clump of trees between the two fields and casually work the area randomly, still cherry picking signals but expanding the range down below zinc cents a little plus taking all nickel range targets as I find them. Getting tired and hot I'm thinking of wrapping it up so I head out to the sideline and try to find the trash zone where people sit and spectate. There isn't much trash to detect so I decide to just pick a line inside the playing field and take everything not obviously trash out of the ground. As I reached the corner of the field the silver ring shows up. Someone threw the ball into play and lost a ring perhaps. Now we're talking! Satisfied with the mission I walked off and swung over the curb area near the parking lot to get a feel for the trash there, too. With light to moderate trash, tons of clad signals, two pieces of jewelry - I have all the intel I need to know that this park is going to produce a few gold items, eventually. I'm hesitant to give 5 stars so we'll rate it at a 4 plus star park, IMO. Next hunt the tedious process of clad layer removal begins, oh, joy. Thanks for your time. Good hunting.
  13. Deus 9" hf and pinpointer first impressions I got my new Deus 9" hf coil and wireless pinpointer yesterday, thank you Rob everything was perfect and the delivery was right on time. Assembly and syncing everything went smoothly, I'd watched a couple of short utube videos on setup of the new coil the day before and it's a simple (intuitive) process anyway. I didn't think I was going to like the white color of the new coil, but now that I have it it looks fine and the coil cover is black, so OK. Now all my comparisons are against my experience with the 11" standard coil, that's how I bought my original package new from the dealer. The balance is now much improved, the two coils don't feel all that much different off the main shaft in your hand, but once it's out there the new coil is much lighter and feels great, it also looks tiny in comparison to the 11". The new coil completes the startup/EMI operations faster than the standard coil, at least the flashing light indicating completion of the operation seems to cycle in about 1/2 the time of my 11" coil. The little I've run the new hf coil in some parks I'm not at all disappointed in the performance, it's smooth and manageable in all frequencies and is less bothered by emi. In one area I was directly under some power lines at a school where my whites sst had been unusable and the 11" coil really struggled. Directly under the wires I did pick up some chatter, lowering the sensitivity (70) helped a lot and 10 feet away I had no problem with the emi. The depth I'm seeing seems about the same as the 11 standard, I'm picking up wheat cents and other deeply buried old clad I missed with the 11" and tiny pieces of aluminum fragments from bottle cap retainer seals. I'm still getting a feel for the target I'd numbers the 11" numbers jumped around so much they weren't very useful, these seem better more stable... the tones are also crisper and its easier to lock on to on a desirable target sound (I think anyway). Most of these things I expected to improve just by going to the smaller coil, the 11 will now be reserved for speciality hunting, beach and wide open areas. Pinpointing is very accurate both by the wiggle or pinpoint function. Speaking of the pinpointer it's easy to sync, doesn't false works perfect, very accurate tones (meaning the pitch setting), easy to adjust...I can hear it in my headphones, very nice lanyard and belt clip, it worked perfect, one time I did have to switch back to the pointer and then coil when the coil volume did not sync but the switch from pointer to coil is almost instantaneous and automatic when you press the pointer power button. I love this pointer and now could not part with it this is a must have for the Deus. I ran the coil over some tiny gold in my back yard, the Emi is really bad I have old power lines and transformers running directly across the rear of the property. I had no trouble hearing the tiny nug with the chatter from the electrical lines, I'm anxious to get up in the hills and try out the new coil next week in some trash areas in gold country and see how well it handles the iron and hot rocks. happy hunting, clark
  14. Yesterday I got my August issue of Lost treasure and here on page 44 was field test with a review by Andy on the V4.0 Deus. I'm sure Andy could have used more room to cover the Deus on what it has to offer. Time and space has control of what we do in life. I think Andy done a great job but I'll let you make your review of his review on the Deus. Chuck
  15. The old faithfull patch where I found the 2 cent coin is still giving up the odd piece of silver jewelry and silver coins and wheats now and then, plus junk jewelry. Some of these rings and pins come from the school patch I work a few times in the evenings. Today I hit a four star park I never hunted before but have been eyeballing for a few years, so couple pieces from there in the picture. I took photos of that hunt because it was a scouting mission with good results. I'll post about it when I get more time. Not much remarkable, IMO. No gold yet... worst drought yet.
  16. https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?p=2798220#post2798220
  17. 9"hf coil first beach detect...nice 95 id and 925 silver...
  18. has anyone played around with silencer much? Whenever I switch reactivity you know that the silencer changes with it and I usually then adjust silencer to 0 but I SHOULD try silencer where the reactivity says to... but I don't. Has anyone played around with it much to see what effects it has? thanks for all the great posts. gene
  19. I am getting a little impatient waiting for the Deus elipitical as summer starts and I find myself wanting to explore more with some discrimination while still being sensitive for tiny gold. By tiny I mean the small stuff I'm missing with the gpz, but big enough to see with my old man vision...not flakes I'd need tweezers to collect. I have the Deus with 11", so going down to a 9" coil would be great improvement in the feel of the detector, also I've been using it for a year now and am beginning to understand it a little. The reports on the 9" hf have been good as have the reports on the GM1000. Wondering if anyone has any thoughts as to how they might compair? Do I keep waiting with still no firm release date? Is it technical issues or marketing strategy delaying the release? I'm planning a drive to Colorado the end of next month and was going to bring the Deus with a hf coil, now I'm beginning to wonder if I wouldn't be better off with the GM?
  20. I've been bored on my dog sitting endeavor, so I've studied up on the Deus, and looked at a history of used sales. At least in the near term, it doesn't look like the Deus will be available in a strictly High Frequency model. So you're stuck buying the whole kit and then adding the HF coil. Retail for the whole kit is $1520.00 and then another $400.00 for the HF coil. The $1520.00 kit includes the wireless backphones and the main controller. The "puck" on the backphones can be removed and used as a standalone controller, albeit without the "expert" menus. Personally, I see no need for the backphones, the main wireless controller is really all you need and has all the "expert" menus. I've looked at buying the components individually, but you still end up paying dearly. The controller retails for $800.00, used ones on Ebay are roughly $500.00. The original (non HF) black 9" coil, retails for close to $500.00, used ones sell in the range of $300.00. The backphones retail for over $300.00, used ones sell for $200.00. A used Deus kit with backphone and controller sells for somewhere between $1000.00 and $1200.00, not very many are available though and they get snapped up quick. Rob at Rob's Detectors has a very lightly used one for sale at a good price, you'd have to check with him on actual price and shipping. So, if you assembled a Deus HF detector from components at retail, you'd spend roughly $1500.00. If you bought used rod/shaft, and controller, with a new HF coil, you're looking at just over $1000.00. Or,you could buy the whole kit and sell off the components you don't need. Better still, you get the whole kit, add a new shaft/rod assembly and end up with two detectors, one equipped with the "puck", the other with the main controller. Just random thoughts from a bored dog sitter. I'm in S. Cal right now, but sunny Yuma by the Sea will see temps of 118 to 120 this week. I'll get home just in time the catch those max temps, sweet!
  21. Received my MI-6 pinpointer today. A few comments. I have tested and used a little bit. Nice addition I feel to anyone operating a Deus unit. Will benefit both Deus lite package users as well as packages containing the remote unit. The pinpointer if a person has the remote, will have no problem knowing if the pinpointer is switched on or off just by glancing at the remote, not so with Deus lite package ( looking at headphone module). Unit easily pairs to actual Deus unit. Notice I said Deus Lite package above (no remote). This brings up a good question for dealers here, and I will be posting this actual thread on another forum where actual dealers sponsor. For good reason too. Folks who opt to purchase Deus lite package, if I am correct there, if a dealer will use an "in house" remote and pair the pinpointer for Deus lite purchaser,,the pinpointer can in fact be used in an actual interface fashion. And with drop shipping, yes this could be a problem. But I think if a person looks around, maybe they can find a dealer with items in stock at dealership. I do have a question for Craig (detecting Mo). If the pointer is paired using the remote of course for say a person who has Deus Lite unit, later on after this has transpired,,can the Deus lite owner operator,, can they actually unpair the pinpointer intentionally or accidentally, making pairing void, hence since the person wouldn't have a remote to re pair,,they would be SOL. Am I right here Craig with my thinking. I like the belt clip and how it rotates. I have played with the non interfaced option of using, still not ready to comment on it just yet. Will say for folks buying pinpointer,,and if a person is thinking of later upgrading or buying a Deus unit,, you might want to go the MI-6 route,, and yes it can be used it seems at least to the satisfactory level with any Vlf detector. http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/local/Xpmda/Frontend/assets/docs/MI-6_Manual.pdf More to come maybe.
  22. We had a cold snap in sunny Yuma, low 70's at sunup. Didn't reach 80 till nearly 9am. I took the Deus out for a little testing in an area we have absolutely hammered with every known detector. I didn't find any gold, but the Deus surprised me with some of its capabilities. Per our discussion on the Notch vs. Discrimination theory, I set up the machine for 3 tones, relying on tone discrimination rather than true Notch or Iron Discrimination. With the Deus software the first setpoint for Tone discrimination really becomes a null, so 3 tones becomes 2 tones. It's actually a little more complicated than that, but won't help us for this discussion. So, I set the first actual audio tone, (2nd notch) for iron ID of between 0 and 20, and made it as low an audio tone as was possible. The next Tone breakpoint takes over from an ID of 20, where the last one left off, and all out way out to the end of range in the '90s. That tone is our sweet tone, you can set it at any level your hearing prefers. During my previous outings over undug targets, gold ID'd in the mid '50s. If you recall my first outing with the new HF coil, I was underwhelmed with the audio. Over a test nugget at the time, I missed the dynamic "zip" audio of the Gold Bug II. I thought the Deus audio somewhat anemic at the time. That all changed for me today. Using the remote to access the menu functions, I upped the audio response to 6 from the preset of 4. Wow, what a difference. So much difference that the machine got a little "chattery" in some of the hotter ground. But I live by "chattery" using the Z7000, so I just went with it. I found half a dozen shotgun pellets that just screamed dig me, showing a VID between 55 and 60, the same as gold. I buried a .25 gram nugget in some of the hottest ground I could find. The machine clipped and chirped, but at about 5 inches, the audio over the nugget was bright and crisp. No mistaking that audio, everything I thought I missed about the GBII audio, was alive and well in the Deus. Over the same test nugget and same hot ground I played with the other settings. I was running Sens at 85 and upped it to 90. While the target sound was somewhat brighter, the resulting feedback from the ground would have negated it for practical use in the field. Steve H would find a way to run this machine maxed out, but for me less was better. Raising the Reactivity helped quiet the "chatteryness", but I wanted to run the machine as wide open as possible. I settled on a Reactivity of 2. I then played with the Discrimination over the same nugget in the same hole. I ran it from negative 6, to positive 10. I found no benefit in this ground to running max negative Discrim, but a sweet spot seemed to be around negative 3. The more positive discrimination above +6 starts to give the test nugget at 5 inch depth, a breaking audio, alternating from the Iron tone to a true gold tone. No bueno for real life field prospecting, although it would be enough to make you stop and investigate. The Deus has a separate control for Iron volume, but that is disabled when running negative Discrimination. So, my current working theory is running Discrimination at +1, setting the iron volume at 1, then using the (Low)Tone feature to handle the rest of ordinary Iron problems out to an ID of 20. I tried the Deus standard Goldfield Program over the same ground. It just didn't do it for me so I left off without really giving it a true workout. Maybe it works, but I wanted to fiddle with all the other features of this machine. I'm off to ranch sit, taking care of horses and dogs for the next week or so. No more moments of clarity with the Deus till I make up to CA gold country. I might make it out for some beach detecting, so who knows. Until then, keep er low and slow.
  23. According to the latest post on XP's blog the frequencies of the HF coils are different than published before. The 9" round HF is now 14-30-59 KHz and the Elliptical HF, available in May 2017 is now 14-30-81 KHz. With 81KHz the Deus V4 should be even more sensitive than the GB2. https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/02/10/deus-update-v4-uk/deus-update-v4-uk.pdf
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