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Hello OroSeeker,

As far as fonts go, do nothing and the forum defaults to Arial. You do not have to chose a font, just type away.

Sorry if I came off harsh but I am just being honest. You predicated this idea on your mom being of failing health and your finances non-sustainable. I am looking at this from that perspective, the perspective of needing money in serious circumstances.

From where I sit I have prospected for gold my entire life and am doing this literally as this thread develops. I was swinging a detector prospecting all day yesterday and will be doing so again in an hour for the entire day. And the next, and the next. I know intimately what we are talking about here.

I am in good gold country swinging the most powerful prospecting detector currently available, a Minelab GPZ 7000. The country I am in has vastly more chances of my wandering over a shallow overlooked gold vein than Minnesota, where your chances are so close to zero as to be exactly that.

Most of us are looking for gold nuggets because that is the best way to find gold with a metal detector, but the ground all of us swing over could also reveal shallow rich gold veins or pockets. They do get found from time to time, but they usually are the sort that give up a few ounces of gold as best. They are not some magic bonanza. I can recall one example in Austrlalia off hand where a vein found in Australia with a metal detector actually produced enough gold to make a difference in life. This is extreme long odds stuff.

I do spend time, and in fact spent half the day yesterday on a walkabout looking for a new patch or a shallow gold vein. I do it all the time. I detect gold shed off of veins all the time. A gold vein in place is usually just a bunch of quartz with no gold to be seen, but if enough of the quartz decomposes over millennia a stray piece of gold is liberated now and then to create little residual deposits that can be worked with a detector. If you were with me right now I could drive you to and show you many in place gold veins. They are not the gold filled things I think you are imagining. They have gold measured in fractions of an ounce per ton.

Rich gold veins the likes you seek exist mostly in the imagination. Again, your issue is not detectors of detecting methods, it is learning more about the nature and reality of gold veins and gold deposits in general.

If you were just a casual person with some money to blow I would indeed say go for it. But the situation you have presented is different. You portray yourself as somebody with some serious issues that require some income. I would be doing you an extreme disservice in suggesting that chasing gold with a metal detector is a wise way to approach that issue.

That is all I have to say on that subject. If you do just want to get into prospecting and metal detecting that is great, and we are here to help.

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I should have been more patient in my reading.

 

My condolences for your Mother's illness. Losing a loved one a little bit each day is sad and very difficult.

 

As for finding a pot-of-gold in any form-it ain't likely. In my past life I have been as poor and desperate as one can get...when I needed the gold I could not find a crumb, let alone vast riches.

 

If you are serious about learning there are many lifetimes of experience on this forum and other gold prospecting forums.

 

fred

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OroSeeker, Like Steve I`ve chased the stuff for 40 plus years but as a amateur, and reading Steves replies, I can`t add any he has said it all, gold has given me a life I don`t think could be bettered, not just the monetary value but the "fever". Gold prospecting is a journey, lots of learning and hard yakka, but a brilliant pastime, I wish you the best and hope you get what I have out of the journey. Enjoy.

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Thanks guys. The financial situation is not as dire as it "could" be, There is a house that now sits empty. As excutor and POA I have the right to sell it. Unfortunately, I see something in the house that only a qualified home inspector worth his salt would notice. One end of the house is a solid rock fireplace (late-40's to 50's home) Unfortunately, the entire wall is slowly sinking into the ground. Wife and I went there with a load of building materials just before Christmas (25' trailer) but someone cut me off on a long downhill run and I made the boneheaded mistake of slamming on the brakes. Lost the truck, trailer and load. Still working with insurance...and with doctors.

 

Was invited to go with a group of local coin hunters to spend some time next year exploring old mines (inside and out). I know my limits, and exploring old mines is beyond my comfort level.

 

Stumbled across some info earlier on what I was originally asking. Sounds like what I'm looking for. Yes, it's a longshot. And no, it probably won't happen. However, as Reno Chris so wonderfully pointed out, it's still great to dream. Still have hopes that this might be possible. Just have to do the research and figure the logistics of it all.

 

Thanks for the input - will try to keep in touch. Btw, what's the best way to view all of the archived titles? Can't seem to get through even the title list with this lousy signal.

 

Reno Chris - A special thanks. My prayers are with you and yours.

 

Steve wrote: "I detect gold shed off of veins all the time. A gold vein in place is usually just a bunch of quartz with no gold to be seen, but if enough of the quartz decomposes over millennia a stray piece of gold is liberated now and then to create little residual deposits that can be worked with a detector. If you were with me right now I could drive you to and show you many in place gold veins. They are not the gold filled things I think you are imagining. They have gold measured in fractions of an ounce per ton."

 

Didn't figure I was the first to think of this, but still might have a different sort of twist. Again, research, research, research. All of this that's new to me is old stuff to many others. As for the gold content, again you hit the nail on the head. Anything worthwhile to mining companies has long been worked out or, at the very least, locked in non-active claims. I can make very miniscule deposits worthwhile - at least I "think" I can. And besides, there's more than just gold out there. Steve, be careful what you say. I MIGHT just take you up on an invite!! :-P  (stop worrying, that's a joke)

...Went to Vegas one time. Spent 12 hours in one of the major casinos, gambling continuously. Went home with the same exact money I went with. What's more, I ended up with 2 free steak dinners in the process. Not trying to get rich here - just trying to have one final adventure while getting the real-world experience that can't be learned online or from a book. There you have it - my idea (in short).

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Ok, here it is. In my research, I have stumbled across a few areas that the gov’t lists as being areas with many very tiny pockets of mineralization. Imagine the lode mines of bygone days as shots from a 55mm Howitzer. I’m looking for birdshot. In the old days, the only way to find lodes was to:

1. Find a gold outcropping

2. Find a quartz outcropping and follow it hoping to hit mineralization, or

3. To keep on tunneling and HOPING to hit another small vein (like buying a lottery ticket…which I don’t do).

 

This one area in particular seems rather enticing. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? I have no idea…yet! Logic would seem to indicate that there is some real potential, but only for someone who:

1. Isn’t greedy

2. Has no investors/shareholders

3. Doesn’t require a partner (which I still might require, for the locating part)

4. Someone who can design and build his own equipment very inexpensively and

5. Someone who isn’t afraid to try.

 

As for the LRL that I previously mentioned, I can’t remember if that forum thread was on this site or another. Had to do with Fitzgerald and the KellyCo black box, etc. Someone in that thread asked to see the theory behind those products. If anyone’s interested or for future reference, can check out:

www.miningandmetallurgy.com/mining/resistivity-prospecting-method

www.miningandmetallurgy.com/mining/induced-spontaneous-polarization

Not absolutely certain about that, but the info “appears” to follow along the lines of what the Fitzgerald’s website tries to say without actually saying anything – like I was trying to do ;-)

The link to the Fitzgerald website is, : www.treasurenow.com

 

So, his equipment might really work. Go figure. However, there are better methods out there. This appears to be old technology.

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I would just take the Raw facts of Steve's and Chris's Posts and try prospecting as a hobby, If there was a chance of finding monster Nuggets then they are the Guys to find them, 

 

As for that LRL stuff they are marketed Solely to Target People Like you that need to be successful and If they were any good then Minelab, Fischer and Whites would be making them, you need to study the history of such places read Maps and buy a VLF machine and a PI machine and just get your boots on the ground, Prospecting is a tough game of cat and mouse,,,, You against the elements,, Some guys here go 10 years without finding a single Nugget and if there was a short cut to getting more gold then people would not be here chewing the fat,

 

remember a VLF and a PI and a good pick and 2 hand held GPS's

 

john

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LRLs do not find treasure. They only make treasure for the manufacturer who makes them cheap and sells them to unsuspecting customers whom they dupe into purchasing. It is normal procedure to state all kinds of fancy, sort of technical, scientific sounding stuff about the LRL product in order to trick people who are "technological idiots" (sorry - your term not mine) into thinking there is some sort of science involved - there is no science to LRL devices at all. They are a fraud. A very well qualified electrical engineer I know took one apart to see what it did. It was an electrical circuit to make the lights on the device blink off and on randomly. That's all they really are.

However, you are welcome to think whatever you like and this will be my final comment to this thread.

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LRLs do not find treasure. They only make treasure for the manufacturer who makes them cheap and sells them to unsuspecting customers whom they dupe into purchasing. It is normal procedure to state all kinds of fancy, sort of technical, scientific sounding stuff about the LRL product in order to trick people who are "technological idiots" (sorry - your term not mine) into thinking there is some sort of science involved - there is no science to LRL devices at all. They are a fraud. A very well qualified electrical engineer I know took one apart to see what it did. It was an electrical circuit to make the lights on the device blink off and on randomly. That's all they really are.

However, you are welcome to think whatever you like and this will be my final comment to this thread.

Don't leave know, someone has tried to lead him astray with false claims and he is just toying with any ideas some clown has thrown at him,

 

john

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Welcome to the forum OroSeeker.

 

Explore for native copper and silver in your area.  Minnesota has a rich history and The UP is legendary for massive native copper. It may not be as romantic as gold, but its mining.

 

Go old school with modern tech!

 

A PI metal detector like the Whites TDI, will do fine.

 

Don't wast money on a LRL, your better of with homemade dowsing rods.

 

The big boys with deep pocket$ use  XRF handheld analyzers.

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Honest opinions on these scams before and it is much appreciated. I think a lot of times folks are afraid that they will be considered "bashing" a product if they speak out that way. But honestly there is more technology in the motor that powers your windshield wipers than there is in these LRLs. In my opinion, SCAM is the proper word to use.

 

There are a pile of guys here that recently dropped $10k on a detector. You can bet that if these things did what they claimed everyone of us would have them. Still haven't met anyone except newbies, that have probably never found a nugget before in their life, that have had any interest in these things.

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