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I enjoy running my Deus units in full tones while hunting,,especially relic hunting.
But is full tones necessarily the best to run in all cases???
Can a nonferrous target be missed,,,even a worthy coin???
The answer to the second question above,,,YES.
Deus users I recommend you do the following experiment and similar experiements for understanding.
Take a look at the pic below.
The ruler is in pic to show nail size.
Two nails are pictured,,,but only one was used at a time,,,in the position associated with IH penny.
Deus users using full tones (no disc or very low) sweeping down the barrel of this nail,,(I used 9" coil btw),,do you think you would dig the coin???
IMO I even with as much Deus experience I have,,,,I would give a less than 40 percent chance of digging.
What are the symptoms here with this coin and nail configuration??
You won't get much tone nuance,,little if any to identify,,,,you do get elongated low roar(so near iron grunt) it ain't funny.
Meter reading will amp to and try to read in the mid20s to 30s,,,but the meter reading don't match the sound provided in the least.
Btw I have seen some relic iron (solo buried) do the very same thing here.
So what to do,,,to maybe not miss a find maybe laying in this configuration in an old site???
IMO,,,users would be serving themselves here well,,,if they have an adjacent program setup,,using regular 2 tone or 3 tones setup,,with disc at level between 6-7,,,I used 7 when testing coin with bigger nail,,,nail procided no tone,,dead quiet,,,,but put the coins,,,IH,,zincoln,,or clad dime as shown in pic,,and a good tone to stop you in your tracks.
When in the field using full tones,,you hear a longer signal,,dull sounding,,meter reading in 20s or 30s,,toggle to your adjacent 2 or 3 tone program and sweep and listen.
I was spaced out, staring out the window with my mouth hanging open,contemplating the vagaries that occur in our lives when I was struck by a revelation. Maybe my detector isn't a P.O.S., maybe it is broken?
The problem is my XP Deus is very noisy in All Metal mode. In the highly variable ground of N. California I can not get it to run quiet in AM. The ground grab function does not get an exacting enough GB so I am forced to manually GB the Deus. It will run smooth for a few feet but then start yakking at me. Re-GB and repeat the scenario ad nauseam. Auto tracking is just as noisy. I have found gold with it listening through the noise but it is mentally fatiguing to try to determine a faint target or is it noise? The Discriminate modes run quiet, the machine is a real peach for coin and relic hunting but All Metal mode just sucks and its bringing me down.
I know Ray, Scott, Steve and hopefully others on here own a Deus or did. Have your machines exhibited the same behavior? What say you gentlemen?
Folks,,,I have been seeing some threads,,a few talking about Xp warranty.
Seems some problems could possibly crop up with warranty repairs.
I don't know what Xp's formal position is here on warranty repairs,,,,as far as needed paperwork,,registration,etc.
I will post this link here,,,to maybe shed some light.
I have commented in this link.
By Steve Herschbach
Scott sent me this Google translate link on what appears to be a credible source discussing a detector show in France.
Big news includes a two box coil setup to take the DEUS to the cache hunting world, a pinpointer, phone app, but most of all, that new mystery coil. Version 4 of the DEUS operating system brings with it a new coil that allows for 10, 20, 30, and 40 khz operation. (2/10/17 update - the new frequencies will be 14, 30, and 59 kHz plus 14, 30, and 81 kHz. Go here for latest info) The old coils will not run at these frequencies so this new elliptical will take the DEUS to a whole new level, one with obvious implications for nugget hunters.
It is also in this leaked dealer video starting around 19 minute mark....