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Hi Steve & All
Im UK based and detect for coins, relics, well just about anything really, I may even have found some info of a river that may produce gold,
Im not sure how many of you guys can help, Im in the market for a new detector and I have been pondering the XP Deus for some time but have held fire on my purchase because of the release of the Nokta Impact, I am always on this site looking at the reviews etc and wanted to hear any experiences of the Nokta Impact, I know its early days yet and reviews are thin on the ground, but experts like yourselves will have an initial feeling about new gear and instantly know if you like it or not,
in the UK the Deus will be around £300-£350 more expencive than the Impact, so my question is to those who may have both, Which do you prefer, why, which would be your go to machine, does the Impact compare to the Deus, which do you think maybe the best all rounder, is the Deus worth the extra $
Any help is greatfully received, Thanks in Advance, Shanan
By Sourdough Scott
Since the V4 update came out, it has been real quiet on here. Anyone using the update with any success? Anyone figuring out the programs and making any custom ones?
I got a custom program from a friend. For iron infested areas. He was explaining to me the Deus was made for European hunting. Of course I knew that. But he further explained that they have wrought-iron in Europe and we don't we don't have so much in the states. So he has figured out a program that is better suited for the iron and steel in the united states. So I am going to go test run it. So if you have any success stories or issues, please share. That is my goal with the Deus this year, is to learn it, and become more proficient with it.
I am seeing folks report problems with V4.
I have recently downloaded and updated both my units.
If I try to go to disc,,and hit expert keys,,screen freeze.
The same with notch selected,,,hit expert screen freeze.
Also no freq shift allowed,,screen freeze.
Have to power down to get out of screens.
Some folks are not having this problem,,but many are.
Seems going back to 3.2 version solves all these problems.
Just a heads up.
USA link with info.
Version 4.0 manual
Alright, another hunt today,,5 hours long,,same site as yesterday.
I feel the need to share some I think worthy information.
Xp Deus version 4,, is quite a bit different from version 3.2.
Overall it is better,,will I think make some sites come alive again,,hunted previously with any detector really even Deus and previous versions to Version 4.
I listened close today,,and did make some worthy finds,,,considering all or maybe some of these has had a detector coil over them by me personally during the course of the last 6 years.
So what is different with version 4??
First let me say,,,so far my exclusive use of version 4 really is running the hot program.
I ran disc setting again today using full tones disc between 2.0 and 2.5., I did find a few finds by using,,and with time in the site today,,I really started bearing down.
My goal was to try and start seeing if by audio alone and how it behaved,,could I start cracking the code on maybe trying to realize what real challenged nonferrous might just sound like.
Well I tried using the disc settings above,,,whalt happened???
I was digging nails,,,yes nails sounded pretty darn good,,,one thing though about these signals here I was digging,,they were a bit shorter,,but has the other characteristics of usually what a good hit would sound like.
Well as I went t along,,I got over another one of these similar behaving/sounding targets,,,so I'm saying to myself,,huh and other nail???
Well here is where the light bulb started brighter,,,I started reducing disc,,got to zero,. this suspect target still sounded like a good hit(closer),,so I just kept lowering disc,,and sweeping,,,,when I got to -2.5--- Eureka!!
With disc setting -2.5 in full tones using version 4,,, to me this sounds awfully close to version 3.2 does.
Meaning the Deus over nails,,,give the rolling sounds,,with grunts.
I hunted for around 2 hours using in the site,,,,and the site sounded like I was running 3.2 (almost),, and this here is BIG.
Deus version 4,, based even on so far roughly 8 hours in the field,,,has even more of an inate ability to find nonferrous in iron and nails,,,but ALSO has the more inate ability even a user will listen to tone intelligence/ characteristics,,,to ID ferrous materials with unusually shapes,,including round(er).
And before a person says,,Well Deus has always liked round,,,yes I know this,,,but I think now,,,even in a separation and unmasking detecting scenario,,,it is seeing more here on even ferrous,,,and I think this carries over to the nonferrous side as well.
Some folks may have thought Deus version 3.2 was the end all for Xp,,,well I got news for those who thought --Wrong.
I do realize due to weather, some Deus users are grounded so to speak,,,all I can say,,is if you are a Deus runner,,and enjoyed running full tones using 3.2 with zero and even lower disc,,,I highly recommend you opt for disc setting of -2.5,, for your self,,,to at least establish a base line of sorts,,,this I think will help you and speed up your learning curve overall.
In the pic,,ferrous on top,,nonferrous on the bottom.
The 2 nonferrous button and brass thingy,,dug on edge around 5-5.5" deep,,the bigger item towards the right is lead,,,looks a lot like the find I dug earlier here. This particualr find,,,I would almost bet the farm,,if swung over using Deus version 3.2,, user would be thinking iron.
The little musket ball,,a mere 1.5" deep,,,covered with ferrous too,,and the little flat button a mere 3" deep.
The iron finds,,they had quite a bit of signature of being nonferrous,,,I really think Deus with version 3.2 would have be used to study these targets,,,likely would have called them moreso iron. Not as much of a way to base audio on the shape of ferrous.
Seems version 4 has narrowed the gap a bit as far as ferrous and nonferrous,, distinguishing with tone.
I have always said,,and folks I think don't realize this,,,most folks seem to guide their thinking on how well a detector sees nonferrous or alerts on it or recognizes it.
But something equally important is how a detector recognizes iron and nails and the degree to which they do. I mean a detector has to do both well,,to be a very good detecto IMO. I would also bet,, version 4 Deus is better on say half of coins in ground and in nails and iron vs Deus 3.2.
Dragnet is wider using version 4.0....
Deus V4 hunt, 9" coil.
Three and a half hours roughly.
I can already say this based on this short period of using V4 in the wild.
The $1 and $2.50 USA gold coins,,the half dimes,,even the real worn ones,,eagle cuff buttons,,,,all should be shaking in their boots.
Version 4 is no BS folks.
Very solid performer.
This site I've spent a lot of time on,,I call this one of my detector proving grounds site,,,cause it is challenging,,and I take certain models detectors here to just see what happens.
I only ran the hot program on Deus version 4,,, 90 sens ,,,dead on GB,,,reactivity 2.5 silencer -1.
Super signals provided on these targets in pic.
I have dug similar finds in this site with Deus version 2 and 3.2,,So I know what most of them sounded like,,,these targets today BIG difference.
I encourage relic hunters at least to waste no time updating their detectors
to version 4.
So besides the super signals on these targets what else did I see.
Don't know what this means exactly,,,all of these targets but one,,,could not be detected in plug even if the plug was turned right side up.
The harmonica reed was pretty deep,,,and it had a bit of iron twang to it.
I compared hot program to Deus fast program with the same settings dialed in,,,they seem different to me.
I will bet over the last 3 years somebody in the USA with Deus has actually swung over a $1 gold coin,,not that deep mind you,,,and never was alerted.
If they would have had version 4 Deus running in hot program,,this coin would have been recovered.
I checked the mineralization meter,,remember Inwas using 9" coil,,,4 ticks in the meter,,checked in 3 different spots.
Hot program seems a bit sparkier in iron,,,and here is some thing I never notice before with version 3.2. If a person using hot program,,if they hover their coil over iron they will make it sound like a more diggable signal.
I played a bit with negative Disc,,,but I hunted with disc level at 2.5 using full tones.
Version 4 seems to make shakier version 3.2 signals,,and turns them into full fledged good signal.
Big congrats deserving to Xp here,,,I really mean this too.
I expect to see some nice finds made with version 4 Deus runners.
I have been hunting this site for 6 years,,on and off,,mostly on,,,today,,for time hunted my most productive hunt,,and to think I was wet behind the ears with version 4,,,,this should tell folks some thing,,,it does me.
The three finds top left are ferrous,,the rest nonferrous.
This site has never produced much for me over the years,,straight across the road,,that spot has been a lot better for me,,,now I got to hunt it using version 4. No telling what I'll find,,that is where the contemporary capped bust dime was found.