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By Steve Herschbach
Things have been very quiet at Tesoro the last few years. There was a lot of talk about a new model, the Cazador, that finally just faded away. We did finally see the Tesoro Mojave introduction, and while it is a great little detector certainly not anything cutting edge. Delays are nothing new in the industry and it is certainly possible the Cazador will still appear. The lack of communication however leaves one feeling like Tesoro is just coasting along at this point. It did not help that Tesoro apparently declined to keep sponsoring the Tesoro Findmall Forum, and so it was renamed the Beep & Dig Detecting Forum. That being the case I decided when I revamped the forums recently that perhaps a new Tesoro Forum was in order for those who felt abandoned elsewhere. And so with that, welcome to the new Tesoro Forum at DetectorProspector.com!
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I have never had a company treat me with so much respect and lightning fast response like Nokta has...
A lot of companies could really use a schooling from Nokta on how customer relations should be conducted...
I was contacted this morning by Dilek @ Nokta by message from this forum ..submitted my address and phone # ... NO PROBLEM!!!!
just made my day over something as small as a piece of plastic...
I'm still waiting on Fisher 4 mths now for a response to my repeated emails and phone calls... SMH
thank you Dilek for ur excellent customer relations and service...
By Rick Kempf
Saw this somewhere, a quote from Dave Johnson, currently Chief Designer at First Texas. Here's the quote.
We’re not a company who stands still. Over the last several years we have introduced a whole series of new products on several new hardware platforms, and have constantly advanced the science of target signal processing. In the future we plan to introduce new processes which, although they may “feel” like a member of the T2 process family, will operate on different principles and will produce results of a kind which are not attained by any metal detector presently available. -Dave Johnson
Dave is dead serious.
When he says "...will operate on different principles and will produce results of a kind which are not attained by any metal detector presently available" - i believe that he is saying that it is NOT a traditional Induction Balance or Pulse Induction plaatform, but something else.
Can he do it? We don't know. But before we assume that this new platform will be the answer to everyones wish list, here's another quote from Dave - from March of this year.
"The good news is that I'm designing the perfect detector. The bad news is that almost nobody will like it."
Now that's a quote to ponder. Hopefully it's Dave's way of saying that it will not be a detector which the average detector enthusiast will like, perhaps because it will be tightly focused on a particular "job to be done"? If that's the case, hopefully the job it is focused on doing is the job this forum is about.
By Steve Herschbach
Last July (July 2014) Tim Mallory of First Texas made a post on a Facebook page. First Texas is the parent company of Fisher, the well known detector manufacturer. Fisher used to make a pulse induction diving detector, the Impulse, but it has been discontinued. Fisher stands out as a company with strong VLF prospecting detectors but also as the only "Big 5" manufacturer without a PI detector of any sort in the lineup.
Fisher was also a leader in multi frequency detectors with the CZ series but has rested on the laurels ever since, with no digital version of the old CZ3D offered to date. It has been common knowledge for some time that Fisher has at least been working on a new PI and a new multi frequency models.
Facebook post by Tim Mallory of Fisher (excerpts):
Tim Mallory - I'm new to your group. I'm head of sales and marketing at first texas products, which owns fisher, teknetics, bounty hunter and two night vision companies, night owl and nivisys. We've got a lot of exciting new products coming down the pipe, starting with the f19, introducing right now, then an upgrade for the f75, in the fall, and then new super weather resistant machines on the mid to low range, in the spring.... Lots coming....
Joe Trino - Is the water resistant machine dual feq?
Tim Mallory - Joe, no. They are replacements for f2 and f4. They'll be a lot of machine for the money...but not multifrequency. We have a mf in the hopper and it has recently moved from research to development, but it takes a long time to innovate a new machine of this caliber.
Joe Trino - Tim I love my cz21 I have dug a lot of gold and silver with it my only complaint would be the shaft is flimsy and could beef up the coil wires and headphones I feel confident I can keep up with any mine lab machine about time for a new fisher pi unit.
Tim Mallory - Joe, we have 15 seasoned engineers. Still it takes 3 to 5 years to get a new platform to the intro stage. Let me just say, a PI is in the works.
Dusty Willis - So I was wondering.... When is fisher going to get into the pulse induction business and come out with a pi machine for gold to compete with minelab?
Tim Mallory - Dusty, it's on the bench. But still in research...arguably close to development stage...someday we will have a kick ass PI.
I notice Fisher getting grief on some forums for "being late" with the new machines. The fact is however there has never been any hint of a production timeframe from Fisher. Units are always under development, and many never see the light of day. Anything under development can stop or go at any time for any reason. There simply is no reason to expect a new pulse induction or multi frequency machine from Fisher until they make an official announcement that a release date is near. Still, one can always hope, and I hope we see something one of these days. I would certainly welcome a lightweight affordable PI alternative to what is currently available. The CZ was always one of my favorite detectors, and a more compact lighter CZ would also be welcome.
But I am not holding my breath!