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Not sure what the punishment for prowlers in the womens bathroom might be 😂

Well I believe more standard tones would help especially in the deeper water. I’m waiting to see if any of the machines get better depth in the water where’s there is less trash. Running in AM you get the pops rather than the false tones… to many tones and any machine can get chatty when run the way you can this machine. i agree it’s a very well made machine…. Thou I can tell you problems I’ve had….. none of which cost me a ton of money for repairs.

Good points of course. Im hoping the manticore has value for dirt hunting if I ever get up home again longest to hit some of my old spots. I don’t get nearly the EMI simply because I’m in the water mostly. But if it chatters because of minerals a lot I’m out. The Deus is quiet in the water. But there’s a lot I don’t like about it and it’s not cheap either. I seriously wish they would revamp the Xcal. I’m afraid their flag ship if redone is going to again be pricy. I like the CTX but at this point it’s hard to call it the flagship

The depth you mentioned is fairly easy to obtain by most machines. Of course I need one I have the option of in and out of the water. Next you have to consider what’s an acceptable loss for the targets you are looking for. You then may need to look at one with more coil options especially for working in trash as well as reducing sensitivity, slowing down, keeping the coil low ( not that I need to tell you this) and possibly using a pattern occasionally. In trash just changing it up occasionally can help. I found in say parks …. Not running high sensitivity especially with a large coil seemed to pick up high conductors totally missed because the machine was trying to process so much material. Plus you got so much better TID. Go beach hunting I like an 11 or 12” coil. But you lose some small gold.

Dimitar has family members involved as well so it’s not a one man show. All seem to be capable designers.

I have a friend who uses the Deus AND the MDT. I’ve not cared for the ML multi unit in the water….. and I’m not jumping out there to spend the money on any until more info is in. But most of us who hit the beaches hard consider performance over price since the machine pays for its self rather quickly.

I think niche to me means those who have kept them like me aren’t trying to use them as a multi use machine. I’m a water hunter who cranks it up and used AM. I don’t have any others detectors now because I don’t feel there is a better water machine for how I hunt…. right now. If I was strictly a dry sand hunter I’d like pick up another machine. I use the 12” coil for depth…. But the 11” is quieter in the water. Water testing for depth isn’t easy….. and sometimes there just plain isn’t anything in that pushed up sand. I’m watching the manticore as a possible backup…. But it’s been said this isn’t a flagship replacement. I’m also wanting to see if it’s worth the money in the water. I noticed Tom D has mentioned the MDT when comparing certain aspects of it. The machine likes round. I did find more micro gold with the Nox in the dry sand …. But a lot of tiny trash. Most people down here rather they know it or not are ring hunting….. most of the time they are trying to cover to much beach so technique suffers. No I’m not a fan of the tones nor the digital readout. I do wish we knew what Demitar is working on.

I’ve no insight either. Thou I like some of the suggestions. That machine he did with the different tones I liked. Nice to have the new battery box thou I’ve had no issues. I prefer SteveG’s thinner shaft…. I might be wrong but I think he made a deal that you could add that in lieu of the standard on new machines. I could be wrong but it seems the testing is being done out of country to keep things as you said close to his vest. Personally I like leaked info as to what he’s thinking for improvements…. Just a taste. I’m still surprised only the Legend has “barrowed” his salt balance. Has anyone had an issue with the red on your buttons completely disappearing?

Chase Did I read the Nox phone won’t work with this machine? Wonder if they will give us those darn yellows for water hunting… of course at the $150 extra? They need to give people a choice between phones.

So what headphones are you using? I never really had an issue with the volume on the Nox but I used Tony Eisenhower and phones I made. Just curious why you didn’t seem to like the volume

I look forward to your water review. Do ya know if those crappy yellow phones were upgraded? I sure hope so. For the price we should get an option… or it’s an added cost. As an old smart screen user and CTX user I really like the add. You almost never dug a bottle cap you didn’t want to. Side by side targets not IDed properly it helped there too. Not quite dive ready. ML hasn’t introduced a new flagship machine …. These machines are out performing their current one. I’m waiting because of price to see how it performs in the salt water…. Hopefully not a lot of reduction to have it run smoothly and transition in the surf is good. Really want to see in the near surf how it does on those difficult gold pieces.

Targets pool this time of year. We have a much larger tide swing and winds start coming out of the North. These negative tide cause more waves at low tide hitting th built up sand dune or rises. Good to hunt by watching the wave line in the water … just it front of it you get a lot of movement and you tell the cut ins best.

Sooooo how’s the hunting going? Not been out much but the red tide was out a bit. I heard someone had a heart attack on one beach because of it. Tomorrow maybe a beach day to see if it’s moved …. Heard it was all the way up to Holmes beach. As far as the ring it was a giveback with no reward ugh. Personally that diamond had to be awfully awfully good because the ring was very simple

Are those cobs? Dats a lot of digging … but some nice heavies. You don’t always get what you might expect from these storms. Sometimes a month after will surprise you.

I use the tones only after locating a target….. I prefer not to hear all the distracting tones when it falses much like any other machine when it’s maxed out. I prefer the quick pops to the pings and pongs. I’m not a numbers guy especially since there can be a lot of bounce with a sensitive machine lot of targets dug… oh my aching back 😂. Nice batch of heavy targets too. Was the cross gold?