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Big companies that have virtually monopolized a market become arrogant. Profit, profit, profit. Minelab is now Codan. Made in Malaysia.
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The New Coils For The 23 And 7
Jonathan Porter replied to phoenix's topic in Detector Prospector Forum
There is no truth to that rumour whatsoever. JP -
There is QED being used here in Vietnam where I am at the moment. It has a sand detecting mode and is being used as a beach detector with great success.
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The knowledge of how the "Recovery Speed" function works with Equinox .. I have gained the practice of using detection ... but also 2D and 3D separation tests and detector depth tests: Whites Spectra V3 and Rutus Argo v3: Separate Ground Filter Settings and Personal Recovery Rates. Also put an effective sweeping speed of the coil .. into the equation and Size of coils.. However, these detector settings require some practice and knowledge, so detector manufacturers have combined these two functions -1. Ground filter.... and 2. Ground Filter Recovery rate -.. to the more simple In the "Single Recovery Speed Setting " .....for detectors : XP Deus, ...Rutus Alter71, ...Whites MX Sport, and ...Minelab Equinox.. Even though I would not be hampered by the manufacturer's ability to use a combination of high ground filter and lower-medium filter refresh rate for in Equinox, for example, as a 6+, 7+, 8 + .. recovery speed setting for heavily mineralized terrain.
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"Goldchaser1" operates from Kalgoorlie - mate of his found it. Someone in the room also likes Geelong beer (Furphy) so obviously a man of impeccable taste - - - Had a similar sized piece (42 oz) from Bendigo (Scotchmans gully, Whipstick) last century, but sold it waaaaay too soon:
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QED? Ill do some reading. I have a Gold Bug Pro on its way. I think for $580 delivered with two coils isnt bad price but from the reaserch for the requirements that i have done, this looks to be a good starting point. Sounds like a good simple machine for someone starting out and in the terrain i intend to scout. I will get a PI as well for sure eventually. Thanks guys. Al.
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Yeh Rob, I remember that. When they announced the release of the 7000 they said there would be a 11" and 20" as extra coils. Down the track the 20" became a 19" and the 11" drifted off into the sunset. I was told about 3 years ago and I really have no idea if there is any truth to it, that Minelab gave up on the 11" because it kept overloading the detector. Dave
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El Nino77, The EQ functionality you laid out immediately above has details not easy to locate. Would you please site your source(s)? I have combed Google, Minelab, DP, Treasure Talk, various blogs, and the ML manual, and cannot find papers with details such as yours that perhaps might be available to study at my own pace. I am not looking for intellectual property, or Trade Secrets, but documents with the operational depth of the type you kindly posted. If sources such as you access are confidential and proprietary, I'd appreciate if you would let me know so I don't waste my time in futility. Thank you for the response and any study materials you are at liberty to throw my way. flowdog
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You can tell that because of the Jack Daniels cans? haha
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I'll have one of those in my hands soon! 😁
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WA gold for sure. Still plenty left for you. Better hurry though - - - :)
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46 ozs!
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Nice finds, Dave!
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Hey Guys, What ever happen to the 11" GPZ coil that Minelab promised? I'm 99.9% sure when the unit was first released they mentioned a future 11" and 19" coil release, beyond the stock 14x13" inch. Correct me if I'm wrong?
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Aha! Someone finally mentioned it. I didn't, because I'm also a QED tester and don't wish to be seen as overtly partisan. The current PL2 model is impressive. It is lightweight, cheaper than most (if not all) other PI detectors, has great ergonomics and can be used with all the GP and GPX Minelab, Coiltek and Nuggetfinder monoloops. Power consumption is minimal and just two supplied 18650 LI ION cells give a good days detecting The designer and manufacturer (Howard) lives near Ballarat in Victoria, and, unlike any other detector manufacturer, goes out of his way to personally help anybody who experiences problems. Howard has a restless intellect and is constantly fiddling with new technology and future improvements to his baby. Every time I see him he is bursting with enthusiasm over some proposed changes or other. He reminds me a little of the late professor Julius Sumner Miller - - :) Some Minelab users find it difficult to adapt to the QED. It is a totally different machine to operate and some habitual Minelab operating techniques don't directly transcribe successfully. Further, certain highly magnetic soils can prove difficult to obtain good depth in. This can be an issue with many detectors. There is no such thing as the perfect detector for all applications and I, for one, always carry another in the vehicle just in case. Nonetheless, there are few detectors which can be swung all day with little fatigue (and no bungy, in my case) For me, it is the perfect prospecting new ground machine, and since that's what I do, ergo, for me it is the perfect detector. See: https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/4255-gold-found-with-qed/?tab=comments#comment-45878
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The New Coils For The 23 And 7
Steve Herschbach replied to phoenix's topic in Detector Prospector Forum
Thanks Jason, I appreciate that. Nice to have you back by the way. Believe it or not the number one sales area for the GPZ 7000 is..... Africa! People there were paying as much for a GPX 4500 as a GPZ 7000 at the height of the rush. There is more money in Africa than people think. They of course offer a full range however for those that cant afford the more expensive units - Gold Monster was made specifically for Africa. Selling to the "first world" countries was more an afterthought egged on by people like me. -
Bang for buck you cannot beat a new 4500, with an EVO coil. Will work anywhere in Australia ! Rick
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I believe that for sure, I guess what I'm referring to is the GPZ in specific though. My impression is that a lot of prospectors in Africa are using stuff like the Gold Monster and older PI's more, but I really have no idea. I know they are serious prospectors too, more than I am since often there is no option for them but to find gold. I'm just basing that off what people tell me whom I speak with on my Youtube channel mostly. There is some interesting stuff happening out there which is only just now starting and may or may not lead to more. A lot of global people who never use forums contact me through my videos which is pretty cool. One guy I just spoke with has permits to prospect recently opened areas in Northern Iraq (Kurdish territory) and will be essentially detecting in a war zone as they are still fighting ISIS, a place that has never seen a metal detector before in a non-military sense. He's just a young Kurdish kid, and is going to set up an Instagram page to update his progress. People like this contact me almost daily for detector recommendations, and often I refer them to your gold detector review page. All kinds of people from all over, - Papua New Guinea and a few other places in Oceania, Peru, China, etc. The large majority, I mean close to 99% if I guessed, want to know what to buy under $500 though. So I'm assuming there aren't a ton of GPZ's being used by the locals in these places and so I really started wondering what it's future was going to hold there. So I'm guessing Minelab generally has goals to target that price range and market since by far it seems to have the largest growth potential. I just wanted to make sure they didn't forget us. *On a side note, what exactly does Minelab manufacture in Idaho?
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The New Coils For The 23 And 7
Steve Herschbach replied to phoenix's topic in Detector Prospector Forum
Codan, Minelabs parent, does around $230 million a year in sales, and about 70% or $164 million of that last year was metal detectors. The vast majority of that was gold detectors, mostly in Africa. You can rest assured Minelab has not and will not abandon gold prospectors - it is the business. Coin type detectors are not the driver for Minelab by a long shot, even with Equinox out there. Here are the sales distribution numbers for the total sales.... Codan FY18 Global Sales Source -
Last weekend a couple of friends and I got out for a meteorite hunt to Franconia Arizona. I found 2 Chondrites weighing 29 and 98 grams. A few small H metal irons, a nice piece of rose colored Chalcedony, and a .50 casing with 43 date stamped. It got past 100, heat is already coming.... Dave
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Is there a reason the QED hasn't been mentioned? I feel like that omission is the elephant in the room.
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Good question. Even better answer (as in ~25 tr oz).
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Thanks, Steve. Jim - Yesterday
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The last day I hunted because of this thread, I switched between manual and auto GB. In manual I had it set at zero. EVERY target dug I went into each of the GB modes. I did not notice a depth increase over another mode. The only thing I noted was a little more stability [quiet running] in tracking GB with moving salt water up and down the beach. Dave
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Thank you JP, this seems to generally addresses some things that have been left to our imaginations for years and tells me enough to feel comfortable in my gut decision to hold off for now and watch how things develop. It does sound like Minelab has not abandoned the serious gold prospector entirely, which was why I was considering going with one of these aftermarket coils, so we'll see what comes about by the time I sell this GPZ and get ready to buy my 3rd when the need arises again. (I feel like I'm in some ways mirroring Steve here now that I've read his response too, and in some ways not) While we definitely don't have the kind of gold you have in Australia, I manage to scrape by on minimum wage or thereabouts on what I can find over here, sometimes I get luckier, and there are a few others doing the same. A GPZ is not a luxury item for me as it is for some here. It's a business expense which I take a loan out to purchase, and resell when I am done using it to pay off my loan. I do it because I love the freedom and lifestyle of being alone exploring the mountains and desert and having the right tool for job enables me to live a life like that at least part time. I buy one when I feel I can pay for the depreciation plus make money on top of that. That's why I ask the questions I ask, it's a tool for me and I have to be confident that what I'm using will pay for itself and more. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" when it comes to new products to me, I won't buy something unless I'm confident it'll pay itself off and so I ask a ton of questions and I appreciate all the people who take the time to answer some of them.
