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Does anyone know the company that makes the Xcoils? Is there a website?

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20 hours ago, DolanDave said:

Does anyone know the company that makes the Xcoils? Is there a website?

Dave apparently the whole operation is just one man.

davsgold wrote "The guy making the coils is hand making each coil, and is very particular about his work, and so this is why the batches of coils getting made are not in large quantities.  He does not have a web site."

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Yes that's correct, like Nugget Finder I guess, aren't the Nugget Finder coils all hand wound? The NF website indicates they are.  It seems he can barely keep up with demand now so I guess marketing with a website would just make things harder ?

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38 minutes ago, phoenix said:

Dave apparently the hole operation is just one man.

davsgold wrote "The guy making the coils is hand making each coil, and is very particular about his work, and so this is why the batches of coils getting made are not in large quantities.  He does not have a web site."

Hmmmmm ???? ?

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On ‎6‎/‎25‎/‎2019 at 9:09 PM, DolanDave said:

Hmmmmm ???? ?

Don't worry, Dave.  I hear these coils are filled with VooDoo.  That's why people seem to be doing so well with them.  They're probably made of seal skin, puppy dogs, and tears from orphan children.   Nobody really knows.

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The way I see it is the coils are advertising themselves, the users are advertising them even though they get a lot of flack for it.  Davsgold and X-coils aren't, no website, no promotion from the Russian guy or from Dave (Davsgold)... it's the users singing their praises.    You have to private message him on a forum to buy one, it's not like he's trying hard to sell them!

The more users the better, a general consensus is always best as I find it quite sad some people think the current users are in some way forced to say positive things.  It makes no sense, any bad product is exposed quite quickly.  I would never want to be a product reviewer of any detecting product as you quickly get a target on your head or by the looks of it... on your back.  By the way I'm not a reviewer of X-coils.  I just own one.

People like Steve H, Calabash and JP who have done a lot of product reviews must have very thick skin.   They often seem a target of abuse just for giving an opinion trying to help others out.

I think my Garrett Euroace (Ace 350) is a great little value detector, people probably laugh at me for that. It does the job just fine for it's purpose.

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Yes Phrunt, you bring up a good point. 

Whose pocket are you in today is sometimes an initial reaction to a fair review rather than a thank you.  The internet has raised skepticism to the max so that any fair review or opinion always comes out as 'liar, liar, pants on fire!'

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Who cares, if some think we are in X coils pocket as long as our pockets have weight. Really there is no debate, reviews are peoples opinion, some negative some positive. But if a private individual makes a review, respect it, accept it as their opinion with no agenda just the way they see it, it is not a debate, there is no need to attack the private individual for giving his honest appraisal.

Firstly that is not what DP is about, I`ve been here long enough to respect that, this is the one forum that frowns on disrespect, that principle puts it way above most others.

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That's a really good post Norvic.  I couldn't agree more.  It's harder to trust a dealer as they make their coin through the products THEY sell so they're unlikely to be promotional on any competitors products unless they too can sell them, I'd like to think we can trust dealers in a majority of cases ?

A private individual reporting their results is very different...  It makes more sense for these private individuals to keep the good results to themselves, especially if it means someone else might be using their secret weapon on the same ground.

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Dealers and manufactures are entitled to their opinions also!  I would dare say that some of the best individual detectorists that I know here on this forum and in 'practice' are dealers.  They have a 'line' of detectors that they prefer but with or without that line they know more about the detecting business and finding stuff than I'll ever know.  They are the influencers in our industry.  Let's not kill the messenger or ignore their affiliations.  We do not live in a utopia yet.  People have to make a living.

We are lucky enough to have a choice of detectors from manufacturers still in business.  Many of us are not satisfied with any or all of the choices.  Maybe we should go back to those hobby days where we build our own from kits.  We put in what we want.

I've had a chance to buy equipment over the years from several dealers and receive paid and unpaid training from several others.  I don't find the word 'dealer' to be a bad word as much as a descriptive word.  There are successful dealers (good at detecting and business) and the others who didn't remain in the business.

When someone is no longer a dealer are they returned to purity of opinion?  No.  The owner of this forum has 'suffered' from his enjoyment of the Equinox.  His opinion was viewed with much skepticism.  He found a detector he enjoyed and went 'all in' for a period of time.  He has said he won't do it again.

We are an impossible lot to please.  So maybe we should just adopt the Abraham Lincoln line:

“We’re just about as happy as we make up our minds to be,” 

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/10/20/happy-minds/

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