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On 7/31/2019 at 10:41 PM, Andyy said:

Sturt - not sure if I understand the question but it really all comes down to the chip that is required to operate the coil.  Since it is currently included in the ML coils, the only way to use a new coil with the GPZ, is to sacrifice a coil so you can borrow the chip.  The coil does not necessarily become useless, but it does require you to add a new connector to keep using it.   If ML supplied this chip, they could make a licensing fee.  But as soon as they supplied anything to another company, they risk getting bad publicity if something went wrong.  Selling parts is almost the equivalent of endorsing the product, in my opinion.  My guess is a company like ML would not want to take that risk.

Hi Andy. I was thinking that if you could buy a complete lead assembly without the coil from Minelab with the chip included then join at the X coil or within the lower shaft area below the coiled section? 

Then you would not need to butcher your existing ML 14 coil lead?

Cheers sturt

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16 hours ago, sturt said:

Hi Andy. I was thinking that if you could buy a complete lead assembly without the coil from Minelab with the chip included then join at the X coil or within the lower shaft area below the coiled section? 

Then you would not need to butcher your existing ML 14 coil lead?

Cheers sturt

Unfortunately Minelab will not sell that assembly. 

regards Pat

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Why can’t you use the original curly cord ????

Get the coil with a short lead and attach the original curly to it maybe???

the chip would be in the lower shaft????

Or just do it right and get a 5000.

 

 

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3 hours ago, vanursepaul said:

Or just do it right and get a 5000.

?  that would be just wrong.. lol

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4 hours ago, vanursepaul said:

Why can’t you use the original curly cord ????

Get the coil with a short lead and attach the original curly to it maybe???

In light of what happened to Jasong with his curly cord expanding/unwinding & getting tight in the detector shaft putting undue stress on his patch lead adapter & what Paul said above. Why not make the adapter patch lead below the ML curly cord & have it attach at the straight cable from the coil? Here are some pics of my adapter patch lead. First pic it is separated from the coil lead with the plastic shielding tube removed & sitting above it. 2nd pic shows it assembled & the shielding tube fitted over the metal connectors. You will note it is wrapped in tape for extra strength & support. Where I have positioned the two connectors besides the ML coil lead. Why not cut & make the join there, or even further down towards the coil? That way you are using the tight curl of the ML lead with the chip still at the top end & will have no issue with the X coil curly cord unwinding & causing any jamming issues. 

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You will see that the X coil curly lead on my 10 x 9 coil , while not as tight together as the ML cord it is very similar in diameter. I have no issue with it going up inside the shaft or removing it.

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Cheers

Good luck out there

JW ?

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Not a bad idea, sometimes the simplest solutions are often the best.  In fact it would be far easier, part of the difficulty of the adapter is the limited space you have to work with up near the end of the coil cable which is why there are such tight measurements you have to abide by.

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I think the metal plugs  might be getting a bit to close to the coil if you put them down there. The sliest bump of the coil against a rock etc could send it off.

 Mike. 

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6 hours ago, Malleeboy said:

I think the metal plugs  might be getting a bit to close to the coil if you put them down there. The sliest bump of the coil against a rock etc could send it off.

 Mike. 

Yep, this is why it won't work. I had the same idea early on, and JP noted it would put the connector too close to the coil.

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Strange that the designer of these coils was able to engineer the many different sizes of X coils that we have seen....which must have took forever to design, tool, mold and then make....but when it came to simplicity of the coil cable which would have been exactly the same for every coil he would have made....... and all he had to do was copy the original  minelab coil cable...he failed...right now I'm glad I did not get one of these and after seeing JW's coil cable in the above pics as compared to the original minelab coil cable...this is unacceptable...those spirals need to be tightly wound. 

strick 

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4 hours ago, jasong said:

Yep, this is why it won't work. I had the same idea early on, and JP noted it would put the connector too close to the coil.

Yes and this is why I personally would modify a 14 inch coil instead of a 19 inch coil.  I think you might see the connection more on the 19.

Downside is it is more obvious that you have  broken the warranty.

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