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I just got off the phone with Minelab AU service center re: my detector repairs.  A mere $3600.00 AUD for new printed circuit boards and a new 14" coil plus shipping back here to the states after I paid GCS in Kalgoolie a few hundred bucks to make a faulty Patch Lead that killed my detector.  I imagine litigation would be near impossible with me here in sunny Yuma and them in in OZ and bitterness will serve no particular purpose.  A misadventure with the only injury; my wallet. 

The Service rep told me that to his knowledge, Minelab had no interest in entering the aftermarket coil fray. 

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Andy, that's all true. But, I didn't say the 10" is not worth the money. It definitely might be for some people, as you and JW are showing. The kind of gold it excels on is stuff that you and him spen

I was staying out of it Jason but since you asked.... I have no GPZ or PI now. If I were needing one I would probably get a GPZ and use the 14” coil. It’s done great for me and it can still do gr

One further update: the manufacturer just contacted me himself and apologized for the miscommunications. He has ensured me the curl size issue is now fixed. Not just for my replacement, for all coils

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I sent my email several weeks ago and let them know about these threads but I never got a response.  It will take someone with 'pull' to get them to respond now.  I doubt if they will go public but what about ML USA?

Unfortunately this does not seem to be a pursuit for ML dealers.  They are leaving a response to be made by someone else.  They must have a clause in their contracts that won't allow them to alter ML technology or they will be terminated.

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2 minutes ago, Condor said:

I just got off the phone with Minelab AU service center re: my detector repairs.  A mere $3600.00 AUD for new printed circuit boards and a new 14" coil plus shipping back here to the states after I paid GCS in Kalgoolie a few hundred bucks to make a faulty Patch Lead that killed my detector.  I imagine litigation would be near impossible with me here in sunny Yuma and them in in OZ and bitterness will serve no particular purpose.  A misadventure with the only injury; my wallet. 

The Service rep told me that to his knowledge, Minelab had no interest in entering the aftermarket coil fray. 

Ouch!

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Isn't there some way to come up with a petition here on the forum that, when the news got around, others could jump in and sign? That way what we are asking for could be clearly stated and agreed upon and anyone who was interested could comment in one place. 

We would quickly find out how many people are interested and ML would not have to sort through a bunch of emails.

Just a thought.

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This would take 100's of people, it ain't happening. This would have 20 posts by now if enough people cared to move forward. It appears that almost the only people willing to do anything are the people who already have patch leads and thus nothing to gain!

I have, however, shown rather effectively by accident why Minelab was right to stay out of the coil fray. So, feel free to thank me down at corporate, boys. :rolleyes:

I thought this was a solution that would help other people, from current customers to ML to dealers to coil manufacturers. I got no horse in that race anymore since I already made a patch lead that lets me run any coil. No use spending time on this if others don't care, moving on to more productive things! 

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I was staying out of it Jason but since you asked....

I have no GPZ or PI now. If I were needing one I would probably get a GPZ and use the 14” coil. It’s done great for me and it can still do great. Am I interested in going though all this for another coil? Not really. I want another coil, but I want a finished product that plugs in and works. I want to be a prospector, not an electronics tech. I sure don’t want to risk frying a GPZ at a cost of thousands of dollars. I think I speak for most people when it comes to this whole thing. I also don’t expect Minelab is going to work to bypass a system they put in place to prevent just what you are all trying to do, so good luck with that.

If a range of coils were my paramount desire, I would get a GPX 5000 instead as we all know it and a good coil selection are not that far off a GPZ for getting gold and in some cases that’s the better option.

Frankly, I keep telling you guys a Minelab reads this stuff. Does nobody believe me? They will either put out a small coil in response or they will not. Or they will work with somebody else who will do it. For reasons I will never know they apparently will never talk to users directly and tell us anything. That being the case, you have to simply judge them by what they do. But whatever they do, it’s not because they are not hearing you. I do think however the more people that raise their voice or email or send letters or whatever count as numbers do matter so I also don’t want to discourage anyone from doing all that. But your best bet is push for a Minelab coil, not a way to circumvent the protections they put in place.

I have no idea what Minelab is up to. This is pure speculation and I mean it. We know GPZ has exceeded Minelabs expectations for sales. That means there will be a follow up. Now, considering all the pressure I and others have put on them over ergonomics, it could be a total physical redesign was decided on. One that would not be compatible with the existing coil setup. So rather than spend money and time on a coil for a detector that is basically history, they could be working on a new machine and coils for it.

I absolutely swear I have no knowledge regarding that. But like I said before, you have to judge Minelab by their actions. It appears they have lost interest in GPZ as it is. Why might that be? I can only offer what I have suggested as a plausible reason for why they are behaving as they are. You all have to know that Minelab never stops working, not for a single day. So they are working on something. The only question is what? Take your own shot at filling in the blanks.

So to wrap it up, I personally would get a GPZ and use the stock coil until a coil comes out that plugs in and works no fuss. Which may or may not ever happen. Or get a GPX 5000 and coil selection. Or actually more in tune with my reality right now, I’m waiting to see what’s next because I’m busy anyway and can wait. That’s all just my thoughts, nothing more, don’t hang your hat on it. Anyone simply waiting for the next model would be nuts to do so as it could be years. I have no idea. Just in my case I’m kind of on an enforced wait anyway. If I got an invite to go to Oz tomorrow I’d buy a new GPZ and not be losing any sleep over it being obsoleted overnight. I can’t let stuff like that run my life.

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Steve, you keep saying these things and I agree with you....

however, those that have ears will hear and those that don't, won't...to paraphrase...

So while I love the pearls you are casting I think plenty are getting trod underfoot.

BUt, if you get an invitation to OZ please take me along in your baggage...it will only be a 205 lb over-charge! teasing of course.

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18 hours ago, Condor said:

I just got off the phone with Minelab AU service center re: my detector repairs.  A mere $3600.00 AUD for new printed circuit boards and a new 14" coil plus shipping back here to the states after I paid GCS in Kalgoolie a few hundred bucks to make a faulty Patch Lead that killed my detector.  I imagine litigation would be near impossible with me here in sunny Yuma and them in in OZ and bitterness will serve no particular purpose.  A misadventure with the only injury; my wallet. 

The Service rep told me that to his knowledge, Minelab had no interest in entering the aftermarket coil fray. 

Condor - I think you are the only guy I've known to go to Australia and come back negative. 😁 All joking aside though, I am glad you got your gpz back.

Sad on the coils.  But good for our Russian entrepreneur.

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6 minutes ago, Andyy said:

Sad on the coils.  But good for our Russian entrepreneur.

Is he profiting more than Minelab?  $3500 repair?  Yeh, that's almost 3 ozt of gold they put into it, I'm sure.

 

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