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Yeah, maybe ML figures they'll  get more money replacing fried boards.

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On 8/5/2019 at 1:47 PM, jasong said:

 

 

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If I could only buy one, for general use, so far it would be the 12" spiral. But the 17x12 seems pretty compelling if that one gets offered for sale. For covering old patches (not in salt) or working old flogged goldfields, the 17" strikes me as the best for my particular purposes in those areas.

Getting back to Jason's post on performance, I really wish there were more elliptical options like the 17x12 spiral.   I would replace my 14 inch coil in a second if this were available.  

Maybe it is more of a U.S. thing but the ellipticals really help you fit in more bushy places.  I hope the Russian manufacturer holds on to at least on couple elliptical options.  

And I know it's not possible but my number one size choices are the same... an 8x6 and a 17x12.  So much gold would leave the confines of the earth if these coil combinations existed.for the gpz.. lol.

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Might get your wish there Andy, the 17x12's are in testing, not sure if they are for sale or not yet though? We'll have to see how they go. 

That $3500 AUD repair is crazy... That's like $2500 USD. Some dealers were able to hook their friends up with entire GPZ's for around $4800 USD, I forgot the exact number, which I presume was their invoice cost or close to it. I'd be very surprised if that main board costs more than $200 to make, so they are turning a healthy profit on repairs too I guess.

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I hope my wife did not take these outside of the research and development at ML.:biggrin:

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Hi all,

I started with a 4500, found very little was my bad settings. Then a 5000 for a few years, got better at using it and found good gold. Then came the GPZ and the Bank Manager screamed and walked over the same areas and found the gold I missed. The experts that are helping us novices all the time with the technical details on settings and what to listen to are fantastic thanks everyone. I personally get the shivers when reading what it costs to alter and possibly destroy the original equipment to use someone elses coil. Especially if the  GPZ owner like myself has brought the detector as a hobby, which I believe is most owners out there. ML love your contributions to their profits and have a laugh behind your back. Why would you not use your GPX with a small coil to get into those tight gaps in the rocks. If you have a GPZ 7000 then you probably take the GPX 5000 with you as a spare if something goes wrong. My drive is a 2000 km round trip as well, cheers sturt.

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Hi Sturt, When you have the best equipment & the gold eventually dries up but you know there just has to be more still there. Because no one gets all the gold & as technology improves so to does the gold take, even on old flogged ground. IMHO the GPZ is the best gold detector out there but the days come when it too stops getting gold from old producing areas. The want for many was for a smaller coil for the Zed to get into places that the 14" ML coil just couldn't get. Ok...you can go down the GPX with a smaller coil path. Many of us have been there & done that until that gold has "dried" up. While the 10" X coil on the Zed allows us to get the Zed into areas we just couldn't with the ML 14" coil, it is finding gold that the smaller coils on the GPX didn't get either. The 10 x 5 elliptical coils are the bees knees for those tight places but maybe the windings for the Zed coils can't get that small & that shape. Those of us hungry enough for an edge in performance & to find more gold off old known gold producing areas are prepared to take the "risk" with making or having made the lead adapter for the Zed to take these Russian made X coils. Why? Because they are proving to be just that. An edge in performance. That edge is all you need to get more gold. Sure there have been some fails, & that is unfortunate & the risk, but there is a real reason why they failed. It will all come down to the adaptor not being done correctly & shorting out & blowing the chip, & if really unlucky, the detectors circuit board.

Good luck out there

JW 🤠 

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Every time you shorten and extend the GPZ shaft the risk is there, like a time bomb waiting to go off. I have had a number of genuine lead ends fail over the past few years, one of them was my own personal coil (no damage to detector just the coil not connected warning then shutdown) That’s why they overmold the connector to prevent shorting out if something fails.

JP

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2 hours ago, kiwijw said:

Hi Sturt, When you have the best equipment & the gold eventually dries up but you know there just has to be more still there. Because no one gets all the gold & as technology improves so to does the gold take, even on old flogged ground. IMHO the GPZ is the best gold detector out there but the days come when it too stops getting gold from old producing areas. The want for many was for a smaller coil for the Zed to get into places that the 14" ML coil just couldn't get. Ok...you can go down the GPX with a smaller coil path. Many of us have been there & done that until that gold has "dried" up. While the 10" X coil on the Zed allows us to get the Zed into areas we just couldn't with the ML 14" coil, it is finding gold that the smaller coils on the GPX didn't get either. The 10 x 5 elliptical coils are the bees knees for those tight places but maybe the windings for the Zed coils can't get that small & that shape. Those of us hungry enough for an edge in performance & to find more gold off old known gold producing areas are prepared to take the "risk" with making or having made the lead adapter for the Zed to take these Russian made X coils. Why? Because they are proving to be just that. An edge in performance. That edge is all you need to get more gold. Sure there have been some fails, & that is unfortunate & the risk, but there is a real reason why they failed. It will all come down to the adaptor not being done correctly & shorting out & blowing the chip, & if really unlucky, the detectors circuit board.

Good luck out there

JW 🤠 

Well stated, JW.  You and I are in it more for the challenge and enjoyment of finding any piece of gold no matter how small.  I do believe the 10" coil gets well into the realm of SDC 8" coil territory.  You have probably already seen this.   My thoughts are that if you didn't see this as the case, you would be running your SDC 8" coil instead of the 10" xcoil.  

And I am extremely happy that gold is over $1500/ounce.  That means all of my little bits are growing bigger, sitting there in my jars.  I guess I may pay off that xcoil sooner rather than later.  LOL.

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10 hours ago, Jonathan Porter said:

Every time you shorten and extend the GPZ shaft the risk is there, like a time bomb waiting to go off. I have had a number of genuine lead ends fail over the past few years, one of them was my own personal coil (no damage to detector just the coil not connected warning then shutdown) That’s why they overmold the connector to prevent shorting out if something fails.

JP

Hi there JP, I take it by your comment that you are talking about the genuine ML lead ends failing & not the X coils. It is not good that the X coil spiral curls are unwinding & getting bigger in the shaft to the point that it jambs up causing stress on the X coil adapter, & in Jason's case breaking a wire. He was lucky it didn't short out & blow the chip &/or blow his mother board.

My X coil adapter plug had extra precaution taken by winding it with tape to give it way more strength which hopefully will work in my favor should my X coils curly cords tighten up in the shaft. They haven't shown any sign of doing that yet.  Maybe I should tape the coil end plug as well.

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Good luck out there

JW 🤠

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Yes I suggest you get them made by SteelPhase he is in the manufacturing of electronic equipment, and knows how important it is to have these done properly.

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