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Great news for all the QED owners, it was announced today the QED has been updated with new ground balance firmware along with support for DD and CC coils like the new Concentric coils from Detech that have just been released.

Here is the official announcement from Howard, the God of the QED.

Interfacion Pty Ltd is pleased to announce that the QED has been modified to allow the use of DD (double D) and CC (Concentric Coplanar) coils. This change involves a simple change to the electronics within the control box.

The firmware has also been upgraded to include a further improved Ground Balance.

All detectors being delivered to new customers from Monday 5th August 2019 will already have the above upgrades included.

As a show of commitment to all QED owners, the hardware modification to allow use of the DD and CC coils will be provided at no cost.

Of course and as per the QED warranty, the firmware update is provided free of charge, except for P&H.

Any QED owner who plans to attend the Laanecoorie Bash is encouraged to bring their detector along and have it upgraded at no cost.

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Awesome news, I'll be sending mine off ASAP. 

You can find out more about the QED on their official website here http://www.qedmetaldetectors.com.au/

 

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James Beatty and I have been testing the new DSM (dynamic spectrum modulation) over the last few weeks. It is basically a ground balance within a ground balance and is a big improvement in stability and smoothness. It now has a much wider ground balance range, and once set the GB rarely needs adjustment. A bonus of this improvement has seen an increase in ground penetration and stronger target response. This is noticeable as larger signals give an overload response more readily than previous.

Ground tracking has been made unnecessary with this new development which is unique to QED. Other functions are unaffected by this change, although lower mode and higher gain may be possible over some ground types.

An adjustment to hardware now makes it possible to run DD and concentric coils, and all new QEDs will have both new functions as standard at no extra cost.

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Thanks for the info Reg, does it now have a switch on it to select the coil type?

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The QED is sounding more and more interesting by the day.  I hope to see it get a foot-hold in the US.  At its price point and weight and now features i might be willing to trade in the GPX for the QED.  Time will tell currently.  

Keep us updated on features and finds!

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I’m not so sure I would trade a GPX for a QED but going from nothing to a QED would be a big step up! Since I have no PI currently it’s on my short list of potential buys next year. :smile:

Upgrades/service do concern me though. I guess I could send the control box only to Oz and back. It would lower the cost but still not be free.

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True, regardless its interesting to watch its progression.  

I occasionally like to drool over other detectors, but i put in a ton of research before i pull the trigger, which often dissuades me from changing my current setup.  

 

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This quote from http://golddetecting.forumotion.net/t25836-the-qed-pl2 sums it up as well as anything I have read so far:

“Claims that the QED is a " SDC Killer " are probably a little exaggerated. I also don't believe it to be quite as good as a 4500 either. However, it is a damn good machine for the money!”

Basically I am looking for something with more power than a White’s TDI SL but which weighs less than a Garrett ATX and sell for under $2000. The QED so far is the only detector I see that comes close to beating the challenge below, although the upcoming Fisher Impulse may be in the running.

 

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Question? Why can’t QED get solid dealer support? I thought Coiltek had them on their website at one point. Gone now, or am I missing it? And Maldon Detector Center had them on their website. Gone now, or am I missing it? Edit: found the dealer list, there are now two dealers http://www.qedmetaldetectors.com.au/dealers

Coiltek and Maldon no longer handling apparently, and it does make me wonder why.

Is there anyone out there who has used the QED and any variant of the White’s TDI, who would care to comment on how the two compare? The machines are in the same weight and price class and so I think this is a fair apples to apples comparison. Not having used the machine but based on reports from others it seems to me QED would rate above TDI but slightly below GPX 4500 for across the range performance under all conditions.

GPX 4500 at US$2699 and 5.3 lbs is outside my challenge limits (see above) but in my opinion still represents the most bang for the buck PI option available. Though with Minelab rumored to be discontinuing it soon it may be off the table altogether as a new with warranty option very soon anyway. If that is the case it will leave the field wide open for QED with next up option the GPX 5000 at $3999, over twice the price of a QED.

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That quote from AraratGold is quite old, there have been updates since and now this fresh round of updates to improve it.  It is an issue the QED will face though, because it's constantly being updated people may base their opinions on an older revision and the updates are usually resolving issues people point out and improvements to performance.  I am about to send my QED over to get updated to this latest version, all he needs is the little box under the arm cuff with the batteries removed so postage will be cheap and simple.

The Aussies that tried the QED in WA had some ground balance issues it seems with the variable ground from what I've read, it appears those problems are fixed now but to me that means nothing, I can run it without ground balancing at all just in the default setting and it's balanced already in a majority of places.  This means my views on it are likely useless to someone in different soil.

I've never used an SDC but I'd rate the QED above my Gold Bug Pro for it's pellet finding ability and just below my Gold Monster.  In between the two somewhere.  Certainly finds a lot more pellets than my GPX with my GPX cranked right up with the same coil.  The QED finds the absolutely tiny pellets, not just the normal size ones... I know nothing about shooting so I don't know pellet sizes 🙂 

Keep in mind in our mild soils detectors like the GBP and GM1000 do very well for depth and target size so the comparison to them to an Aussie with hot soil is probably not favorable but in our mild soil being able to compete with them is pretty damn good. As targets get bigger in "testing" the QED surpasses the VLFs for depth.

It was Detech selling the QED on their website recently, not Coiltek from what I've seen? Maybe Coiltek was before I had an interest in it.  Don't know why it stopped with Detech.

I'm not qualified to compare it to my GPX as I'm not 100% confident on either detector but for small bedrock gold I'd rather use the QED as I know it finds smaller... I have no idea when things get bigger and deeper.  It's EMI handling can't be beat which is why I wanted one.

At one spot I go to regularly it is riddled with pellets, millions of the things so I wanted to buy a GPX to avoid digging so many pellets and get the deeper gold, so I got a GPX but the GPX is too badly effected by high voltage power lines there so I got a QED and it works great with the power lines but now I'm digging all the pellets again that the GPX missed.  :laugh: 

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1 hour ago, phrunt said:

it appears those problems are fixed now

Not sure they are fixed but may certainly be improved.  Don’t think anyone has had a chance to run the new updates in WA yet. 

I’ve never used DD or concentric coils on a PI so that is a bonus. Are both of these likely to decrease responses to hot rocks?  A place I went on Sunday I found gold but also dug a lot of hot rocks with the QED. 

An American dealership with a service centre would certainly be helpful if the QED was to be a success in the States.  Increased numbers of QED units is probably going to see Howard needing to get bigger, get some automation, maybe get some bits of the manufacture done offshore - will be interesting to see how it all transpires. 

In the meantime I look forward to trying out the new updates and the extra capability it brings.  

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