Neil Jones Beach To Land :-(

[Relics&Bones]

I recently tried Neil Jones's beach to land program - exactly as he advises. I don't know if I'm the problem or something else, but I was sorely disappointed, especially since I've read so many positive comments about it. I was on an iron infested colonial site with lots of EMI via livestock fencing. I was using the 6" coil. I hit 2 tombac buttons in factory Park 1. Switching to the custom program, the best I could get was broken signal that I would not have normally dug. Suggestions? Thoughts?

[Steve Herschbach]

All I can say is I have no use for or any interest in canned programs or other peoples settings. I learn my controls and set my machine as seems appropriate for my location and personal preferences. If one combination of settings worked for everyone, we would not need the controls. Minelab could just dial in the appropriate settings and just have an on/off switch and maybe a sensitivity control. In trying to do this Minelab came up with 8 separate programs or presets showing that one size can't fit all. The Equinox presets however in my opinion are among the very best designed for any detector, and the farther you get from the preset adjustments the less happy you are likely to be.

[TerryinHawaii]

Steve, you are so right.  Right now I have readjusted my setting due to the latest update.  And I can now get a little more depth detecting in the ocean water here in Hawaii.

[Steve Herschbach]

Hey Terry, great to hear from you, hope you are doing well. I miss Hawaii, been too long but no plans at all right now for a visit anytime soon.

Here is another related issue... the differences between all of us as regards not only experience levels but true hard wired brain differences. This is a fact. Two “experts” running the same detector in the same location can come up with two very different combinations of settings. They can both do just as well making finds, and each could try but not like the other persons settings. I tend to run hot to the point of instability (noisy) and I prefer 50 tones. Another person may lean to stability and quietness, so maybe lower sensitivity and a preference for two tones. This is not without good reason. My method generates more signals which requires a lot of mental processing which can be tiring and I may miss targets as a result. I may also get targets the other person can’t hear at all since their machine is running at lower levels of sensitivity. It’s a trade and neither method is correct, you will find proponents on both sides of that debate. Our ears and our brains truly are wired differently and what works well for one person simply may not work well for the other.

[TerryinHawaii]

I am doing well!  The Equinox does  work good here in the wet sand and the ocean.

[fredmason]

So true, Steve!

in detecting and in life...we are all different.

fred

[flakmagnet]

Especially you Fred …joke (these are sensitive times)...

I agree entirely with Steve and Fred, why oh why would you take someone's settings that are being used on a different continent and expect the same outcome? (Unless you're from GB, but even then) 

Part of the Equinox's popularity is that it has a wide variety of settings that are sitting there just waiting for the user to learn their detector well enough to take advantage of them.

 

[2Valen]

11 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

the differences between all of us as regards not only experience levels but true hard wired brain differences. 

Steve,

I fully understand what you are saying, as I have been learning my 800 for the past 4 months.

I don't get out as often as I would want to, either it is to dry or like now with all the rain we are having.

Sometimes I hear and see what is going on and other times I just get pull tabs.

Soon I will know what is going on and will be much better at what I am doing, but for now I am happy just to learn what I am doing.

[Relics&Bones]

15 hours ago, flakmagnet said:

Especially you Fred …joke (these are sensitive times)...

I agree entirely with Steve and Fred, why oh why would you take someone's settings that are being used on a different continent and expect the same outcome? (Unless you're from GB, but even then) 

Part of the Equinox's popularity is that it has a wide variety of settings that are sitting there just waiting for the user to learn their detector well enough to take advantage of them.

 

"why would you take someone's settings that are being used on a different continent" Because there are quite a few on this continent using it with success. I posted to see if there were folks here w/experience that could advise me on what I might be doing wrong. Isn't that part of the reason for the forum?

[flakmagnet]

30 minutes ago, Relics&Bones said:

I posted to see if there were folks here w/experience that could advise me on what I might be doing wrong. Isn't that part of the reason for the forum?

Yes. That is the reason for the forum. You also asked for "thoughts" and those were my thoughts. Not meant to make you feel defensive and if I have, I apologize.