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Have seen a number of setups like what I will try and describe, the idea being to put the weight back on the belt ( my comment).

Basically a flat Al strip ( maybe thinner steel) about 2 inchs wide 3/16 thick is bolted to an AL strip on the belt offset say 2 inches from the minelab fabric support  that goes up your back. This AL strip goes right up your back and from memory about 4 to 6 inches above your shoulder, then right angle  about 6 or 8 inches to the front that the occ'ie strap/7k detctor is connected to. Where the Y section is on the Minealb back strap, another AL strap is bolted to the Minelab fabric at the Y section then bolted to the vertical AL or steel Strip.

You, like myself maybe skeptical of this arrangement, but this setup is in use by a number of 7000 operators.

Peter

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All this is totally unnecessary. Instead of palming of some cumbersome converted military mine detector with minor modifications onto the prospecting fraternity, and a message of 'kiss our arse in gratitude', and then coming up with a pathetic truss to support the weight of this ill begotten monster, they could have designed an ergonomic prospecting specific detector.

I just can't believe the way this cynical opportunism has been accepted by the detector public without so much as a whimper. They say that you get the politicians that you deserve, well that must apply to detectorists as well, and if so, we must be a bunch of suckers.

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Steve's been calling out for a light weight PI nugget detector for as long as I've known he existed.  I didn't really understand it until I really got into detecting and started doing days of detecting in a row, over and over again and it really becomes a big issue and I'm only in my early 40's  I right now have a sore arm from using my GPX yesterday.  I commented to JW at the time when we were detecting that this thing is damn heavy, I'd had become used to using the QED and Equinox lately and forgot how heavy a GPX is.  He wisely said I should put my bungy strap on to help with it's weight as I had it wrapped around the shaft and he's right, I should of had it on but I have a real issue of being attached to things.   It's just another cord attaching me to the detector and I feel really annoyed by all the cords getting in the way.  It's party why I never wear headphones, the cords, that and my ears get hot 🙂

I fell over the other day with my detector strapped on my arm after slipping on a big wet slippery rock, it was my detector or me so the detector had to take the beating from the fall.  Luckily it was the QED so it was only my arm strap keeping me and the detector attached, if it was my GPX and I had the cords everywhere the fall may have turned out very different.  It was on a steep cliff edge.  I've had to order a replacement stand for my QED due to this fall which the manufacturer was prompt in sorting out for me and very happy with the result there.

Sure, we put up with this stuff as options are so limited but they don't really need to be.   Most electronics have been getting significantly smaller and lighter over the years.  Some of these detector companies make outstanding detectors there no doubt about it, where they are lacking is putting it into a lightweight small package, particularly with the high end gold machines.  I understand they don't have the funding of Google or Apple or any of the big players in the electronics game but I guarantee you if they were making detectors they would look nothing like the big bulky heavy things we often swing today.

What surprises me is the manufacturer of the QED can do it, the impression I get is it's from his house, yet these big companies with factories pumping out hundreds if not thousands of detectors haven't done it.

It's long been talked about limits have been hit on how certain detecting technologies like VLF's and depth and so on have virtually reached their current technological limits but that's in performance...they could now put their efforts into weight and ergonomics and we'd consider it a good upgrade.

Even battery technologies are getting smaller and lighter.  Hopefully they start to focus on ergonomics on the next round of detectors.

It's good to see the likes of QED and now Fisher with their new PI beach detector doing ergonomic light weight PI detectors, hopefully this trend continues, none of us are getting any younger, it only gets harder 🙂

I'm not trying to attack any detectors or brands or anything, I'm sure there isn't a person who uses any detector for days on end that wouldn't prefer it be lighter and easier to swing.

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Look at the Generals setup....

Mmm I don't know about the diaper though.

You might be able to go try a bunch of military backpacks I use the Eberlestock one's, they are a quality American made product and they all have attachment points on the shoulders for your bungee cord. But pretty much any military hydration type or day pack will do the job nicely.

 

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You must be joking! Do you mean that we must develop some type of gantry to enable us to swing this monstrosity? What about the responsibility of the manufacturer to provide a user friendly product?

The problem is that lack of competition has led to this situation where the manufacturer who has a technical advantage does not need to compete. They can be as lazy and slack as they like, and have a 'like it or lump it' attitude and get away with it. Get rid of any critics in favor of 'yes men', and cruise to a world beater reputation. Any competition can be dealt with by farcical legal action designed to overpower by way of superior finances.

Every dog has its day.

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Reg…….I do agree with you. I am 68 years old. I bought the SDC 2300 in hopes I could swing it all day. I find myself pretty worn out after the first couple of hours and really lose interest in digging every target after that. All I can think about is dam my arm hurts! I thought I might try something to help bear the weight. I wanted the 7000 but thought I should try the 2 pound lighter sdc first.

I come to Arizona every year to hunt gold for 6 months. Night after night my arm is so sore from swinging that thing I can't hardly sleep. About 2 hours is all I can take. Lately I would have done just as well looking for those sun bakers. I can do that all day.

They need to make that GPZ 7000 as light as the Monster so us old guys can have some fun too. 

Minelab needs to make the Minelab Pro-swing 45 Harness in different sizes or at least have a hip extension belt. They must have the same engineers as the airlines do. 

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I have adapted four different harnesses to my GPZ-was my GPZ....

My favorite was adapted from one that Arizonaoutback sold for a few years...I never liked the Minelab Harness because it was way to hot for me. However, I had one from a gpx so I cut and hacked and sewed until that worked-mostly I wanted the shoulder straps which provide excellent support...

If you make or increase the belt size be sure and buy the heavy-duty nylon belt...

I have weighed up to 220 and the standard length was getting pretty short...had to keep the belt under the belly, if you not so skinny guys know what I mean.

a hip stick and doc's bungee will put new life in your detecting....

fred

This pic was a year or so ago when I tried detecting with a dust mask to please my Doctor...that stayed on a about five minutes...total failure!

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It's just a topic people are clearly passionate about.  I think sometimes it just gets frustrating when detector companies don't listen to their customers about something to most people is very obvious, heavy cumbersome detectors are a problem.  I think if Minelab released a new GPZ version 2 that was a lightweight model with nothing changed in performance people who already own a GPZ who can afford to do so would upgrade solely for the lighter detector.   The SDC is also a well known chunky detector and Norvic took it upon himself to make a more light weight model out of his SDC but should people really have to go to those extremes? It would be a lot easier to Minelab to make a lighter model of it for people than people hack up their own.

What are the EZ Swing harnesses and other similar alternatives like? They're a lot cheaper.

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I actually bought a cheap Chinese harness for my T2 when I first got the 15" Coil for it, I've never used the harness, it was only about $15.

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I should try it out just to see what it's like, I've never bothered to use it as I never used my T2 15" Coil, I can't stand the thing 🙂

 

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1 hour ago, fredmason said:

I have adapted four different harnesses to my GPZ-was my GPZ....

My favorite was adapted from one that Arizonaoutback sold for a few years...I never liked the Minelab Harness because it was way to hot for me. However, I had one from a gpx so I cut and hacked and sewed until that worked-mostly I wanted the shoulder straps which provide excellent support...

If you make or increase the belt size be sure and buy the heavy-duty nylon belt...

I have weighed up to 220 and the standard length was getting pretty short...had to keep the belt under the belly, if you not so skinny guys know what I mean.

a hip stick and doc's bungee will put new life in your detecting....

fred

This pic was a year or so ago when I tried detecting with a dust mask to please my Doctor...that stayed on a about five minutes...total failure!

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Fred…..I guess I don't understand. You use the hip stick with the minelab harness?

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Steve, you may not remember, some 4-5 (or more?) years ago during a very rainy few days at Saw Tooth when the road got washed out, you had your trailer, me and a friend met you on the road. I had mt 5000, you let me swing the 7000, I commented how heavy it was and would never buy one, but I did and do not regret it. I still use the 5000 in narrow washes, steep hilly areas, the 7000 on flatter ground. I have adapted a harness that I like when using the 7000, still heavy, but I do like the gold it finds. Hope to meet again someday now that I know who you are. Thanks for this great site. 

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