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I think it will also be interesting to see what an aftermarket company might do with the 7uS coils.   Will we see more if this machine catches on?   Better yet will we see 7uS become the standard?   OR... is that a non-issue toward depth and sensitivity?  

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I would just be happy to see the stock machine released.  Rick's production unit had to be sent back to meet regulatory certifcation upgrades.  Looks like we are still several months away from release.  So talking about aftermarket coils seems like next year's issue, at this point.

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Effectively,  one thing at a time ...

and I'm not sure that any other manufacturer
will produce coils which starts at 7us

the first 200 pulscan tdi was able to start at 8.5us
by being finely tuned
but the production of coils does not follow ..

of course, concurrency and coils merchants
are going to buy and dismantle some
but nothing says that they will manage to copy them ....

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