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And here I was thinking you were still running your 12" coil :rolleyes:. Might be something in using the 10" in this shallowish  bedrock area . 12" coil has equaled one piece of gold for you on each of the previous 3 missions at this spot, where as the first time you used the 10" you get three pieces of gold. I think that is telling you something. I know we have been told that the 12" being spiral wound is as sensitive, if not more so, & gets better depth than the 10". I have used the 12" on occasions but always end up back with the 10". So what are your thoughts now on 12" versus 10"?

These are my thoughts. Deeper ground maybe for the 12"  but I am picking that because the areas we are going to have been thrashed with all makes & models of detectors over the years that the bigger deeper gold has long gone to detectors & coils that were good already at doing that. The difference I feel is that the combination we are using now is like a good VLF gold detector on steroids. Getting this smaller gold at insane depths that was beyond earlier equipment.

Good luck out there

JW 🤠   

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You noticed the difference in our picks but not the different coil 🙂

I think the 12" is just as sensitive, I was digging bucket loads of small junk using the 12" but it's a bit big for the terrain we were in, the smaller the coil the better that's for sure. 

The 10" on the GPZ is like running a super deep Gold Monster though and that was proven to me with the bit I completely missed with the Equinox on the path area that the GPZ with 10" pinged on easily. I am 100% certain I passed over the exact spot with the Equinox and missed it.  I've noticed yesterday the GPZ really prefers the coil to be right on the ground.  When I had the faint signal that turned into that thin bit of gold on it's edge unless I scrubbed the ground prior to scraping the signal was not there, scrubbing the ground it was.  I've still got lots to learn on the GPZ but every time I use it I pick up a few things.

The first bit I found I can attribute to an audio file JP put up about finding faint targets the other day, at first pass it was such a faint little break in the threshold I would never even consider thinking it was gold, that audio file made me think to check signals like that which I'd normally not do..... I was just detecting that area so slowly trying to find any change in threshold as I knew gold was in that spot from the previous bits there.  I could never check signals like that on a day to day basis as I'd be wasting my time as they are everywhere but because I knew this spot had gold and I was going so slowly trying to find some there and it paid off.

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5 minutes ago, phrunt said:

I've noticed yesterday the GPZ really prefers the coil to be right on the ground.  When I had the faint signal that turned into that thin bit of gold on it's edge unless I scrubbed the ground prior to scraping the signal was not there, scrubbing the ground it was. 

That is the same no matter what detector/coil combination one uses. You can not get any closer to buried gold than scrubbing the ground. More so with our small gold on the fringe of detection that has been missed by previous equipment. That is what your skid plates are for. If you are getting erratic false signals continuously that you are audibly unable to handle, driving you nuts, or distinguish from a target signal, then something needs to be adjusted or toned down.

JW 🤠 

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2 minutes ago, kiwijw said:

then something needs to be adjusted or toned down

No, people just need to stop shooting shot guns 🙂  Almost always the little faint ones are damn buried pelllets!  The scape or two and they're gone trick is working for me though, I'm only digging the deeper pellets now or ones that have fallen down into cracks in the bedrock.  I'm running my gain on 20 at the moment, I might tone it down to 16 or so over time, still experimenting.

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I concur with JW, the X12" spiral is a up beaut coil with outstanding depth, but the Z/X10" combo in experienced hands is a pure dynamite combo. I pick it  for shallow bony ground whether quiet or variable hot ground for cleanup, no other combo I`ve used before comes near it. 

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Dang Phrunt,  You are becoming pretty proficient with the detector coils and tools.  Even getting good with the video and pics too. I'll learn some from you and hopefully help you too with a tip.  

I love my Garrett Carrot pointer for almost all uses except tiny nuggets in bedrock and chasing diamond stud earrings.  Try the new White's TRX pointer when you get a chance as it has greater Sensitivity to small low conductor items.  Yes it is 100% waterproof and 3 level adjustable SENS too.  Runs on 2 AA's or a single 9 volt.

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Thanks Gerry, just getting out there learning and enjoying doing it.  It feels a big change going from the GPX to the GPZ.  They are fairly different detectors I think and I'm working my way through learning it, getting there, baby steps 🙂  Once you find your first bits of gold things start to fall into place.  Confidence is often the biggest hurdle.

I invested in a Whites TRX late last year, I did buy it off Ebay as there are no Whites dealers in New Zealand and I am hoping it's not a fake but I didn't find it any better on small targets.  I will go back and look who I bought it from and see if they are possibly a dodgy seller.  When my Carrot picks up a nugget I know it's going to be a good one 🙂

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Simon,

Glad to see you posting more hunts as that means that your back is improving.

Lets keep you healthy so everyone can enjoy your finds again.

Great hunt, but don't over do it.

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7 hours ago, phrunt said:

No, people just need to stop shooting shot guns 🙂  Almost always the little faint ones are damn buried pelllets! 

Pellets are still a target signal & not a false signal like I was referring to. False signals can be any number of things, only when you chase them there is nothing tangible there. A ghost signal. Like EMI, which comes from many sources. Could be your cellphone if it isn't turned off, an airplane flying overhead, powerlines, electric fence, cars driving past. Yes I have been detecting that close to roads that that is a problem. I guess it is there alternators. Solar influence used to be a problem with my PI's but not the Zed. EMI & electrical interference is usually pretty easy to pic as it has a rhythmic pulse & can be worked with if not too severe. A target signal can still be picked out among it with careful & precise coil control over the target area.

I guess the most common false signal is ground noise, which we don't generally suffer from or coil bump sensitivity. Pellets for us is just all part of chasing the small tiny gold & all part of the territory.

Good luck out there

JW 🤠 

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