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GPZ 7000 Includes Free 19” Coil

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6 hours ago, principedeleon said:

Couldnt it come to a day where detectors just die out.  ?? Where you would get a PI for a price of a vlf and you might not want it. ?? 

The miles one cover with those things is amazing.  Sooner or later people must start to run out of places to detect.  

All i see is people returning to the same patches finding bits of gold. . nothing new. 

Yeah, it’s basically heading that way, especially here in the U.S. If gold was still $300 an ounce we’d already be done. People who say they are doing it for fun and adventure, not the value, for some reason are not out looking for things of no value instead. They could be looking for copper nuggets but few seem interested in that for some reason, even though it is as challenging and has just as much fun and adventure as gold detecting. The price does matter, and ever increasing prices have kept this ship afloat. And if gold breaks above $US2000 an ounce I expect we will see another electronic gold rush as people detect for the last remaining dribs and drabs on patches pounded for decades. Yes, there are virgin patches out there, but it’s the rare true prospectors out spending the weeks or months of non-producing detecting needed to find them. Ultimately it is legal access to ground that is the limit, and if gold prices spike everything available will get claimed up to the hilt. Competition will be fierce again. We lose even if we win.

I feel like I missed the real heyday 20 years ago being busy running my business. But I am grateful I got to do what I did when I did near the end of it all, and see some virgin patches myself, and lots of large gold. The GPZ really did light things up, but now even the GPZ gold is getting sparse. I’m afraid I’m one of those spoiled old guys finding it hard to get motivated to go out and detect for a few grams. Beach detecting is more pleasant and with better viewing, and more what I’m inclined to do these days. :smile:

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For Reg, I was flat out picking this up.🤪 Yes I’m a dealer🤕

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The GPZ 19 is heavy but so are the larger X coils, not as bad but still hard on the arm and the ears.😬There’s a lot of wire in all of them.🙉

Years ago Coiltek made a 24” Round DD, it was a monster at 2kg with no lower shaft, many many people swung those coils to very good effect especially in Victoria chasing lumps. Never once saw anyone call them Dog’s.🧐 I did very well with mine with the biggest a 20 ounce piece in the Pilbara.

BTW Australia is actually a bigger market than the US for ML gold machines.

JP

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Yes Reg, NZ even sends our own rockets to space with NZ putting satellites up for other countries with NZ designed rockets and contract for Nasa, I think that's pretty damn impressive for a country of 5 million, well.... we just tipped over the 5 million mark during our covid lockdown, that number might grow quickly in about 9 months, I think everyone had nothing else to do while stuck in their houses for 6 weeks 🙂

X-Coils make a 25" GPZ Coil that weighs less than the 19" GPZ  Coil. 

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This 25" coil is around 1650 to 1700 grams including coil cover, the 19" Minelab coil is about 1830 Grams.  A lot more coil for slightly less weight. 

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What does the X coil have to do with Minelab giving away a 19in coil with a GPZ purchase?       Absolutely nothing.

 

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2 minutes ago, Swegin said:

What does the X coil have to do with Minelab giving away a 19in coil with a GPZ purchase?       Absolutely nothing.

 

We were talking about coil weights and why they're not a common purchased coil and why they're given away in USA and nowhere else, all makes sense to me.

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32 minutes ago, phrunt said:

This 25" coil is around 1650 to 1700 grams including coil cover, the 19" Minelab coil is about 1830 Grams.  A lot more coil for slightly less weight. 

Now all we need is a picture of a decent piece of gold being found with one at 1 meter and this thread will have then achieved a full 2nd circle.🤫🤣

The vast majority of GPZ’s sold through our shop in the last month have had the discounted ($500 off) GPZ19 coil option included (we have had a bit of a rush on locally with the Coal Miners). I advise customers the GPZ19 coil is an arm full and requires dedication and a different approach but people want them anyway rather than go on eBay searching for one of Reg’s bargains, they want the ML warranty and piece of mind. 

JP

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2 minutes ago, Jonathan Porter said:

The vast majority of GPZ’s sold through our shop in the last month have had the discounted ($500 off) GPZ19 coil option included

Do Minelab help with that discount or is it you taking the hit when you do it? When I was looking into buying a GPZ the dealers had very limited scope in price, it's disappointing in America you can get these free coil deals and not in our part of the world.

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9 minutes ago, phrunt said:

Do Minelab help with that discount or is it you taking the hit when you do it? When I was looking into buying a GPZ the dealers had very limited scope in price, it's disappointing in America you can get these free coil deals and not in our part of the world.

Everything is done in US dollars so in essence Australia has not had a price rise on the GPZ even though our dollar has tanked against the greenback!! I’ve got no issue with the US customers getting the coil for free with the detector especially when you consider the scope of where they can actually use it over there.

GPZ’s in Australia and most probably NZ are placed in the stores on consignment hence the set pricing, the only place for bargaining is in the accessories supplied for free or discounted by the dealer at time of purchase, this sales method is really the best option because all dealers in Australia need to provide or at least offer comprehensive training either from the dealer themselves or through a competent intermediary, both of which are time consuming and expensive. If discounting was allowed to happen training would be the first thing to suffer.

JP

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1 hour ago, Jonathan Porter said:

GPZ’s in Australia and most probably NZ are placed in the stores on consignment hence the set pricing

Thanks JP.  It is good that you write that, as it is something I have heard but not had confirmed.  Someone suggested ‘price fixing’ or ‘collusion’ amongst dealers but being on consignment it is neither. 
 

But that does lead me to another question.  It seems like the non certified Minelab dealers (Anaconda, BCF, etc) sell at about the same price as everyone else but then when they have their 20% off weekends the Minelab stuff is also 20% off.   But it seems certified dealers cannot do that?  With you, are things like the Equinox and Gold Monster also on consignment?  
It seems very unfair that yourself and Nenad HAVE TO sell an Equinox 600 at XXX price but BCF can knock 20%.  Makes it hard for you guys to compete on those items. 
 

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3 minutes ago, Northeast said:

It seems very unfair that yourself and Nenad HAVE TO sell an Equinox 600 at XXX price but BCF can knock 20%.  Makes it hard for you guys to compete on those items.

It may not be long and Harvey Norman may also have the Minelab range, they've now started stocking Teknetics and Bounty Hunter detectors, It seems like these detector companies are moving into the Big Box stores more and more which will punish the traditional dealers, their advantage is knowledge and training which the Big Box stores can't provide.   A hunting, camping and fishing chain big box shop in NZ similar to Anaconda started to stock Minelab detectors late last year.

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