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Important Announcement From White's Electronics

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On 6/26/2020 at 2:58 AM, Snake Eyes said:

Hey guys,

I just joined the group, after hearing about this on facebook.  I'm in the UK and I've been a White's user for 20 years.  I can't get any answers from the UK.  My V3i is in for repair which has been up there since before lockdown started (end of March in the UK) 

Does anyone know if I'll be able to get my V3i back or has White's UK pulled the shutters down as well?  I was thinking if the USA can't supply the UK with Detectors, does that mean they wont be able to get parts too?

Thanks anyone who can shed any light

This company is doing repairs since Whites closed their doors:

Centreville Electronics
9437 Main Street
Manassas, VA 20110
(888) 645-0202
(703) 367-7999
Fax: (703) 367-0868
bobnpaul@centrevilleelectronics.net
www.centrevilleelectronics.net
 
Hope this helps!

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Thanks Jim, I pinned that at the top of the forum. 👍🏼

Not sure yet about the situation in the UK

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I actually had expected (hoped?) that once they got the MX Sport right that they would soon be moving some of their other machines into that same chassis.  I would rather have had the TDI in that form with multiple coils than them just modifying their Beach machine.

I loved the Treasuremaster.  It had what I considered to be features you’d find in a more expensive unit for only $299.

I suppose I can understand the Weatherproof versus Waterproof idea saving the customer $100 if he wasn’t going to submerge it.

They could not seem to get away from the black metal boxes.  They purposely kept the MXT Pro and GMT around for those who prefer knobs and switches.

I really hope someone buys the company whole and decides to build upon the good technology that’s there.  I really believe the right team could surely turn Whites around and make it great again.

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A machine I really wanted from Whites... DFX running at 48 kHz able to use GMT coils. The ability to run at a separate lower frequency would be nice, but not really needed. What I wanted was the full range SignaGraph tied to 48 kHz operation, with both raw and normalized VDI options. The SignaGraph is a true visual display breakthrough that went underutilized by White’s. I prefer it to the Minelab versions in some ways and having a nugget detector with all the tuning and discrimination options of the DFX would have been something, especially if paired up with MXT ground balancing. The V3i at 22 kHz is close though, so I’ll have to be happy with that.

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1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

A machine I really wanted from Whites... DFX running at 48 kHz able to use GMT coils. The ability to run at a separate lower frequency would be nice, but not really needed. What I wanted was the full range SignaGraph tied to 48 kHz operation, with both raw and normalized VDI options. The SignaGraph is a true visual display breakthrough that went underutilized by White’s. I prefer it to the Minelab versions in some ways and having a nugget detector with all the tuning and discrimination options of the DFX would have been something, especially if paired up with MXT ground balancing. The V3i at 22 kHz is close though, so I’ll have to be happy with that.

when do you like raw and when do you like normalized vdi options.?

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High frequency raw normalized expands the small target/low conductor range and compresses the high end. So normalized for high conductors (coins) and up-normalized for low conductors/small targets.

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1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

High frequency raw normalized expands the small target/low conductor range and compresses the high end. So normalized for high conductors (coins) and up-normalized for low conductors/small targets.

Normal coins are  compressed on my GMX.

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3 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

A machine I really wanted from Whites... DFX running at 48 kHz able to use GMT coils. The ability to run at a separate lower frequency would be nice, but not really needed. What I wanted was the full range SignaGraph tied to 48 kHz operation, with both raw and normalized VDI options. The SignaGraph is a true visual display breakthrough that went underutilized by White’s. I prefer it to the Minelab versions in some ways and having a nugget detector with all the tuning and discrimination options of the DFX would have been something, especially if paired up with MXT ground balancing. The V3i at 22 kHz is close though, so I’ll have to be happy with that.

During my tenure I defined a new 2-frequency product that would be hi/lo switchable. The low was 6+18 kHz and the high was 18+54kHz. When I left the engineer designing it seemed to have it working pretty well (on the bench) and the SignaGraph was especially impressive. Sometime later he also left the company and the product was obviously never released. I've never heard what happened with it.

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