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Heard claims of recent sightings of disguised Minelab detector being field tested in Adelaide Hills (South Australia). Thought to be a gold detector positioned above GPX5000 and below GPZ7000 which makes sense from a marketing angle - doesn't obsolete the 7000 as the flagship model and the 5000 now becomes entry level machine for pulse induction with the 4500 being discontinued. Naturally this is all unsubstantiated rumour.

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Minelab has five key products under development. It should be a pretty good bet that with the CTX 3030 being so old it does not even appear on the timeline below, that a product refresh is in the work

If Minelab pulled this off and actually did it right, I think a new name would be in order - the Minelab Ultimate!

The Vanquish added near Equinox performance to an entry level price detector and it works in wet and dry sand so I'd say that is bringing something new to market.  The Go-Find works better on the beac

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Just a few thoughts.

I am pretty sure Minelab has taken FBS as far as they intend (i.e. FBS2 being the final "refinement" of that platform), with "Multi-IQ" now being the new simultaneous multi-frequency platform from which the next, future "flagship" VLF unit will be produced.  

SO, from that angle, what I'm really hoping for is a EquiCTX 1040  -- i.e. something with "Equinox DNA" but CTX-type features (target trace, 2-D screen, CO/FE numbers, etc.), plus any new refinements that may be on the drawing board.  Just like FBS "evolved" from the Explorer to the E-Trac, and then became "FBS2" with the CTX, I'm hoping that this next flagship will bring some of the best of the CTX and Equinox together, into kind of a top-end, Multi-IQ2 type of machine.  This, plus some more flexibility with coil selection (or possibly allowing third-party companies like Detech, etc. to build aftermarket coils) would be something I'd LOVE to see!

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On 7/20/2020 at 11:53 PM, VicR said:

Heard claims of recent sightings of disguised Minelab detector being field tested in Adelaide Hills (South Australia). Thought to be a gold detector positioned above GPX5000 and below GPZ7000 which makes sense from a marketing angle - doesn't obsolete the 7000 as the flagship model and the 5000 now becomes entry level machine for pulse induction with the 4500 being discontinued. Naturally this is all unsubstantiated rumour.

 

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1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

 

I HAVE A PICTURE OF IT!!!!     AND YES, this was over our house a few months back!!!!

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25 minutes ago, midalake said:

I HAVE A PICTURE OF IT!!!!     AND YES, this was over our house a few months back!!!!

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Do they plan to sell a 6” coil for it?

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All I can say is that if they come out with a next gen Equinox I'll be one of the first ones to pull the trigger on it.

My EQ800 has paid for itself at least ten fold, I can only imagine what a M-IQ2 machine would be capable of!

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CTX going on 8 years old.....still the best detector I ever used to this day.....apparently others think the same ...... as the 8 year old CTX still has a insane resale value. 
Just wish the new 4040 is a little lighter and cheaper.

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5 hours ago, Rob in (ca) said:

Just wish the new 4040 is a little lighter and cheaper.

...and faster.  Relatively slow recovery speed for such an otherwise advanced detector.  MultiIQ should help in this regard and with multiple Multi IQ frequency profiles (FBS2 only really has one profile with the modes being differentiated solely by by different user setting presets) should boost the CTX's fair to middling mid-conductor performance.  

Unless there is something inherently limiting regarding Multi IQ's ability to support Fe-Co target ID, target trace, and sophisticated 2-D discrimination profiles, it just seems like a no-brainer logical next step iteration from Equinox to the 4040 or whatever ML plans to call it.

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Quote:"Unless there is something inherently limiting regarding Multi IQ's ability to support Fe-Co target ID ..."
There is. The simultaneous multi-freq technique used in the current Equinox models has no means of determining the 'FE' characteristic of a target.
But ... as the Equinox would appear to be able to generate any frequency waveform ( it's created by software ) it could be made to run a BBS/FBS-style signal, and hence have CTX-like performance. The limiting characteristics of the coil may affect what is possible. The Eqx seems capable of working at 5kHz and 40 kHz , FBS works at 3.125 kHz & 25 kHz, so maybe a tweaked FBS operating at slightly higher freqs would be viable. There's nothing magical about the FBS frequencies, the 1:8 ratio isn't 'golden' , it was chosen because it was easier to create in the early Sovereign-era electronics.

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5 hours ago, PimentoUK said:

The simultaneous multi-freq technique used in the current Equinox models has no means of determining the 'FE' characteristic of a target.

That is an amazingly definitive statement that you have casually thrown out there as fact that I am having trouble reconciling based on what little we do know about Multi IQ because of ML's lack of clear technical information on the subject and despite folks like you who have experimented with attempting to ascertain the Multi IQ waveform frequency components from lab equipment measurements.  Please cite the underlying references and technical explanations (the physics) that support this statement.  To my knowledge, ML has never stated this to be the case.  There has to be some inferred FE reference just to be able to 1) ID and discriminate out ferrous targets and 2) iron bias ferrous filtering/enhancement relies on multi IQ mode processing (not available in single frequency mode).  Did you guys discuss and deep dive this on Geotech's forum and come to this conclusion as you picked apart the Nox operating waveform frequency components, is there a ML reference, or is it, hopefully informed, but nevertheless speculation on your part?

Here is a link to Steve's Nox 800 lowdown page that includes excerpts from the multi part Treasure Talk articles attempting to tightrope between blurry technical explanations of Multi IQ, very high level comparisons to FBS, while attempting to prevent revealing too much about the secret sauce to the competition.

Unfortunately, ML's atrocious reorganization of their site in the intervening time since those articles were posted is making it near impossible to find and link to the original ML Multi IQ articles using the limited interface of my phone's browser.  All I can find is simplistic animated Multi IQ video (great for marketing) and that stupid diagram that conflates MULTI IQ and Single Frequency (V Flex) (great for totally confusing people).  Note to Minelab - you don't have to dumb the whole site down - you will still be able to successfully market your detectors to those who do and don't care about the details of the underlying technology.  If you re going to call the section of your site "Knowledge Base" please preserve the knowledge. Duh.

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