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I had one on loan for a few minutes and decided to run it in my test garden .Here are the results.....  

We have grounds that have been pounded to death too. Most of the parks have been reworked over the years so if there are deep coins they are too deep for any detector as drainage systems have been put

This is what I am always puzzled by, people who say they'd use something sub-par when they have the option to use something FAR better.  Sure for day or two for experimenting or a bit of fun or for a

They just bought out the only other company that had the engineering talent IMHO that could have come close to the Minelab multi frequency tech. I haven't read up on the acquisition details but assuming they will also own Whites tech and IP rights, they might be able to put out something to compete. 

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If I'm not mistaken Fisher and Minelab entered the multi frequency market in 1991. I had both the Sovereign and the Fisher CZ 6a at the same time. Both deep machines (Sovereign was deeper) but slow recovery. I don't understand why Fisher hasn't made improvements by at least putting that tech in a new box, making it wireless and adding rechargeable batteries. I'd like to see the Apex vs the CZ 3D video if anyone has both.

In any case I would take either of those 1991 machines over the Apex performance wise. My dad was a Garrett dealer back in the 80's and finally dropped them in the late 90's. I have used many Garrett machines over the last 40 years. They are slow to change, for the most part depth and separation has always been subpar. So I agree there's no excuse for a first attempt. Still the same old Garrett. Makes me wonder if they even compared the Apex to other machines. I can't imagine them standing around comparing the Apex with other machines in the same price range and thinking, wow we have something here!

Yes the Apex looks modern and has all the modern features and they could have focused their marketing on those improvements. Had they focused on those strengths, they wouldn't have all the backlash they are getting now. But when you start reading the about the amazing performance the Apex is supposed to have, it really is disappointing when you get one in hand and find out it's still the same old Garrett performance. MF as far as I can tell (with the exception of MS on the beach) has no purpose.

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I used the AT Pro for about 6 months. Never owned a Garrett before that. How did the older Garrett machines compare to the competition when they were released?

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Well let's just put it this way both my Dad and I chose Whites every time. Until the Fisher CZ and Minelab Sovereign came out then I moved away from Whites. The Garrett's could get pretty good depth if you ran them in all metal mode and used reverse discrimination but it was a pain. So in the 80's I used primarily Whites. In the past I've had a Garrett ADS 3, an ADS 7, a few of the GTA's, a GTI 2500, ACE 250 and an AT Pro. Of all the Garrett's I owned they were always used as backup and never primary use machines as I really never liked their performance. Obviously there are plenty of people who love them, otherwise they wouldn't still be in business.

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   I knew you guys would give me a good history lesson! Thanks! I was out of the loop for a long time, and am still trying to catch up!

  I really wasn't defending Garrett! And at the their pricepoint for the Apex, they deserve to get a little beat up! It should have been more in the $299-$399 range i think! With it's mild performance! 

   Calabash,

     I saw that one of the two detectors you have for sale is the Apex! I can't fault you for that! As far as the Nox faults, while there are few, to me they are significant! First, the leaking/malfunction issues! I've had two different machines now, and have had problems with both, that i have had to send back! Second, the coil ear issue! Never had that on any other machine except the Nox! Third is the wonky pinpoint issue, which is only mildly irritating, but worth mentioning! Forth, and again not too common, is the pod screw anchors pulling out of the handle! Which I've had happen on two of four on my first unit! And i was not overtightening! And fifth, while not necessarily a "problem" but we all complain about it, is the lack of coil choices! Love the detector, but i think ML should be able to at least acknowledge some of the issues, if not fix them! And i don't mean sending out to be fixed! Although their service has been great!👍👍

   

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They definitely cut some corners on the build quality. I keep using it because of the performance. If the Nox had something similar to pitch or full tones like the Deus it would currently be the perfect detector for me.

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Honestly with the weakpoints on the Apex, if it had an all metal mode I would swing one. People forget that for the most parts coins and jewelry aren't always hidden in iron or masked out. It is usually only when your in old areas that have been hunted to death that you need to start pulling every little trick you have to find the things others missed short of digging every beep.

I usually prefer the smaller coil and lighter machines for the casual hunting. In parks and school yards you shouldn't be digging monster holes as it is a good way to get everyone banned.

Like to sit back and see what coils come out for it. They come out with a 9" concentric or bit smaller it will do really well in trashy areas littered with bottle caps.

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