⁉️ Which one is better? Has anyone done a comparison test between the two coils for a jewelry hunt in the water? (freshwater or land)
Both are able to use the same frequency. 28 kHz is very good for detecting gold. When I hunt in the water it is a very useful feature of target ID normalization. On the of LF coil, this was a big advantage. I set the gold range, so I only dug out the signals that belong to it. The HF 9" coil is great, but when I increase the frequency the VDI changes, getting higher and higher. The upper range will become narrower. This makes it difficult to decide whether to dig or not.
Let's look at an example. A 1.5 g 14K wedding ring is the test object. HF 9 "coil at 14 kHz = ID 50, 28 kHz = ID 65, 56 kHz = ID 79. X35 11 "coil 11.3 kHz = ID 54, 16.4 kHz = ID 54, 25.4 kHz = ID 54! If I use frequency offset these numbers will change a bit.
The general opinion of many people is that the HF coil is the best. I'm not so sure about that. I looked at this idea in terms of the gold jewelry hunt.
I thought I’d try using a pedometer just to see how far I stroll along the beach on my hunts.
The reviews I’ve read on many are not very complimentary. It seems the common complaint centers on accuracy and battery life.
I’d appreciate your thoughts and recommendations.
I was showing my orx and deus lite to a friend and he wanted to buy the orx so I sold it and bought the deus controller. He loves the orx (so did I) and now I'm really liking the deus.
I've been using 5-G-MAXX and checking each target with 6-DEEP (xy screen)to see the correlation between the two on targets. It takes very little effort to switch back and forth and I think I'm starting to see the difference between good targets and bad ones.(after a LOT of digging) I say lot of digging but I've only been out with it twice.
Anyways, after hitting the signal I knew it wasn't a coin but the XY screen said better investigate...glad I did. My first Civil War spur. I think the extra info you get really helps with the dig or not dig decisions we all have to make. Just some thoughts so far using my Deus. Any advice appreciated! Thanks! Tom
By calabash digger
I have a suggestion for Deus. Come out with a update that allows you to cut down the iron volume to lower volume than what is on the machine now. To me it is to loud even on low in a carpet of nails for long periods of detecting. Dont get me wrong the Deus is the best iron machine made but it needs a lower setting on the iron volume . A lower iron volume where you can just hear the hum of the iron and a non ferrous would blast above it.
Thought I would share a few experiences I had today while detecting in the wild.
A 3 hour hunt with split time between round and elliptical HF coils.
Made a few finds using both coils.
I ran the hot program while actually hunting. But used gold field program to check some targets. Glad I did too. Payed off.
Here is pic.
Notice the bracelet with the name on it. Gent is still a kicking and in his 80s now, bracelet likely lost back in late50s early 60s. I showed it to his sister actually.
What about this bracelet portion?
I hope folks don't laugh here, what I am going to say, but it is true.
I was when I found this, in the same area where cut Spanish bit and half dime came from back in the summer. I'll bet I have swung a Deus detector, others too over this bracelet buried over 300 times. And I heard it likely every time but didn't dig.
Probably the same reason why is the same reason I wouldn't have dug again today except for the mighty gold field program.
I swept this bracelet (not knowing) with hot program and the signal I got, I would have bet the farm it was relic iron. A very tight super high short blaring signal. I actually remember getting this same tone here previously many times before. Remember this place does infact have old relic iron smaller, medium sized and bigger all over.
So in the past I was writing this target off as iron.
Today after I hit the target, I toggled over to gold field same freq run as my hot program Reactivty 2.5. When Iistened to this target using gold field, a nice sounding signal smooth on the edges, usually a good giveaway it is infact nonferrous. And sure enough it was.
One more target I dug today I will discuss, and again using gold field gave me some additional Intel to actually recover find.
The old button in the pic.
I located it with round HF coil but the tone signature was crippled big time, with multiple tones being had as I swept. I repeated sweep several times and I would have gave < 15 % chance of nonferrous even existing beneath my coil. But checking target with gold field even even running 1 level lower (slower) Reactivty (level 2.5) I got more to go on vs the disc mode hot program, meaning now my odds went up to >50 % chance of being nonferous based on what I heard.
To conclude here.
I won't BS folks here.
Using the HF coils running 28.8khz they can be sharper in iron vs the LF coils. A person will get used to if they apply themselves. One thing I will mention here and this too is a good weapon (using gold field to check suspect targets) is using disc program sometimes Deus audio will get caught, trying to sound off extremely close to iron range, and a user may be thinking is what I hear nonferrous or is it iron. When you get these, if you hit them with gold field and you hear nothing, or you hear a signal more corrupt vs what you heard using disc mode program, you can almost bet the farm what you are hearing is iron. Now this applies moreso to shallow and middepth targets.
I have been forcing my self to use my Deus more here lately. I am finding that I like the Deus very much. For the most part I am using Gold Maxx and deus fast. I have a custom deep program I use as well.
What I am getting at is i am not really using as many of the programs and settings. I fiddle between 2 for the most part and some times 3. And that is Deus fast and either gold Maxx or the deep Custom one I made.
I have been thinking of selling either my Deus remote set up and keeping the ORX or selling the ORX remote set up.
I like the ORX for the large easy to see screen and iron probability bar. Plus I only fiddle with the coin programs anyway.
I actually favor the ORX to tell you the truth.
They are slightly different animals. And each has their own strong points. But target and depth between the 2 are equal.
Who else has the same delima??