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Hi guys! Well, I just this couple minutes ago on Facebook! Looks awesome!

It’s such a weird disjointed feeling seeing something you’ve spent years and hundreds and hundreds of hours acutely involved in suddenly ‘out there’ in the real world. 🥴 I wish them well and I hope wh

I don’t need lots of controls. I need one. Power button. I’m fine with a detector that simply finds gold nuggets at depth and nothing else and does so automatically with no fuss. Controls just to have

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1 hour ago, afreakofnature said:

Not surprising.  If you can only have an 11 inch and a 17 inch coil then that makes the SDC with the 8 inch still relevant for sale. And it gives the GPZ, which I know is different technology, a 13 inch and a 19 inch. Pretty sure ML is saying that if you want different coil sizes you have to buy different detectors 🤦‍♂️

Exactly! They want us switching detectors and not just coils.

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16 minutes ago, WesD said:

Exactly! They want us switching detectors and not just coils.

Unless there is a chip in that coil somewhere, it only means that we have to buy other coils from Coiltek or Detech, etc.... Maybe they will release other coils or they just don't care about additional coils. Maybe not worth investing the R&D on them.

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2 minutes ago, schoolofhardNox said:

Unless there is a chip in that coil somewhere, it only means that we have to buy other coils from Coiltek or Detech, etc.... Maybe they will release other coils or they just don't care about additional coils. Maybe not worth investing the R&D on them.

We'll be convinced that you can't make an 'old coil' do new tricks!

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Just send me one and I will do a test on a dozen of my dead patches. If I pull gold out of them I will be happy to pay for it. I'll be happy to take some video and post them on the Tube...  :)

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2 hours ago, afreakofnature said:

Not surprising.  If you can only have an 11 inch and a 17 inch coil then that makes the SDC with the 8 inch still relevant for sale. And it gives the GPZ, which I know is different technology, a 13 inch and a 19 inch. Pretty sure ML is saying that if you want different coil sizes you have to buy different detectors 🤦‍♂️

 

1 hour ago, WesD said:

Exactly! They want us switching detectors and not just coils.

 

1 hour ago, schoolofhardNox said:

Unless there is a chip in that coil somewhere, it only means that we have to buy other coils from Coiltek or Detech, etc.... Maybe they will release other coils or they just don't care about additional coils. Maybe not worth investing the R&D on them.

Per Steve’s GPX 6000 info page, the controls and settings support a menu option for:

  • Double-D Modes - EMI Cancel (Default) / Conductive Ground Cancel

So I suspect ML will offer DD coils as well, perhaps having different form factors from the Mono coils offered in this particular bundle.

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Has anyone ever seen a coil that has two sets of TX  windings in it? 

I'd think there would be a bit of cross over induction , possibly cutting into max radiated power a little  but if only one was active ...............................They have TX and RX in there now , right ?

 

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      I started with the 11” mono. Machine on, super fast EMI reject. I encourage people to review the manual carefully. Minelab has a well thought out process that leads you to correct settings, but for me all detector tuning boils down to my seeking a balance where I can get a little ground feedback, and in general I prefer a threshold. This ground allows for a low mineral setting. Engaging Difficult is subtle in this ground, and hard to tell the difference. Difficult helps a little with the hot rocks, but they are few enough that I prefer to dig or kick rather than tune out. In general I do nothing to reduce signals unless I can’t stand it anymore. Even then, the solution is to slow down or take a break. So low mineral, and max manual sensitivity with threshold.
      The time of day can matter, especially with transient EMI, and noise just arises sometimes out of nowhere. The EMI tune is very fast, so I use it often, as well as a quick ground balance. It’s just too easy, so do it whenever things seem squirrely.
      I first hit an spot where I’ve pulled small gold and trash before in fairly loose, sandy soil. I had the GPX cranked up as described, and used the coil as a bulldozer to plow through and flatten everything. There is no knock sensitivity, but tiny hot rocks will create some noise, and so scrubbing may not work, but for tiny gold it is one of my main methods. If I can only hit a speck at one centimeter, it only stands to reason that removing a centimeter of soil exposes a whole new layer to the windings. So in loose soil, I use the coil to push stuff around and work the coil into the sand. On sidehills I pull soils downhill with the coil, scraping away. If I can’t get the detector to go deep enough, then I will make the gold more shallow. I work slowly and methodically, and I nearly always succeed in finding gold I missed the time before. I just keep at it, getting more down and dirty on each run, and always, trash is going away.
      1 hour 45 minutes to first nugget, 0.191 gram on my new super accurate scale I bought just for weighing tiny bits. By noon I had three more bits, the smallest 0.052 gram.
      My big tip for small gold and trash? Have the right tools. I put together a long handle pick, and a small shovel, both with magnets attached. I get that tiny signal, I get it to move by scraping with foot or digging. As soon as it moves, 11” coil on edge, get an idea where it is, then stab it with the magnet. I keep the magnet on the pick head, and half the time the signal is gone and on magnet just from digging. I’m not getting down looking for the target unless the magnet fails. Since the majority of targets are ferrous, this saves a lot of looking for targets, and getting up and down. The shovel is for deeper holes, with magnet on end of handle. Do this, and you can work trash without killing yourself. And when the magnet fails, you better have a scoop, and have learned to master scoop recovery. This all only works if you get efficient and do not waste time with bits of invisible wire.


      Short break at noon, swap to 17” mono. I hate to talk about this coil as you all can’t get one quite yet. Sorry, no idea when either. But it is a sweetie, may end up my most used coil. It’s light as a feather, and has some kind of flat winding that makes it nearly as hot as the 11” on small stuff. I’m serious. The coil does not punch as deep as the GPZ 14, or so I’m told, and I’d not doubt that, as it is designed more as a patch hunting coil. It covers ground like crazy, but will hit the tiny bits that can lead to a patch. Could be a killer meteorite coil, though I’m not sure how Geosense handle meteorites. I suspect it will be fine. Anyway, most of my prior testing was doing just that, covering ground, and it is sweet for that. This time I went for deeper gold in the salty ground, and as noted before, it’s not unlike running a GPZ14 in salty ground.
      I’ve hit this ground a long time, and big nuggets are first to go, but its early spring, so I went after places where the grass was too deep on previous visits. Again, it’s this acquired knowledge that brings success, not so much magical new machines. This area was low, with lots of salt, so you get a long dragging hi tone one way, and a long dragging low tone the other way. The slower you move, the less moan and groan. Better yet, by angling directly into and away from the salt source (usually the gully bottom) you can even out these opposing forces, to get a smoother audio flow. It’s all about very slow, very careful coil control, and a tuned ear. Most people need a beep to stop them, but I hear every bit of the audio flow. My brain finds the pattern, and then notices breaks in the pattern. In a nutshell, there are the “normal noises” that make up the background flow, but every once in awhile something different happens. A little extra edge, a warble, maybe a pause in the threshold. Why? The longer I’ve hunted the ground, the more accurately I can answer the “why” through countless similar targets having been dug. I slowly tune to the ground and target mix, and if it is questionable, just dig it. Even if not, I’m often digging just to make it go away, even if I know it is trash. Every trip I bring a garbage bag, and clean up stuff. It’s all about a long range project to uncover more gold.
      Well, that deep grass area paid off. The 17” got a nice nugget at depth. No, I did not measure the depth. And I don’t like guessing. Just trust me when I say I thought this was impressive for a big mono coil in salty ground. The nugget weighs 1.099 grams – nice! The same spot gave up two flat pieces, one 0.512 gram, the other 0.792 gram. I was very pleased with this result, as all had some depth to them.

      Deeper digs with 17" mono
      That little spot played out but I kept at it until I got a low battery signal at 4pm. Nice thing about the 6000, you get time after the first warning, so I detected another 20 minutes before taking a break. Battery swap, back at it, and one more nugget at 6:40pm. That’s a long day – done!
      Next morning I switched back to 11” mono, but my small gold spot was playing out, and by noon all I had was trash. Finally picked up another nugget after lunch, 0.538 gram. Now, I’m out of shape on top of everything else, and lack of gold is making me want to quit. So I played the “just one more nugget" card, and went back to 17” mono. That little trick got me to 4:30 and one last nugget, 0.296 gram.
      So a quick overnighter, nine nuggets, five larger with 17” mono, and four smaller with 11” mono, at 4.293 grams total.
      I’m sure I have not covered everything is this long ramble. Feel free to ask anything you want, and I’ll answer the best I can. Just do not think because I like the detector I’m trying to sell you on it. I honestly am not concerned about what detectors other people buy and use. I just use what works for me, and this is working really well for me. No claims to any magic, just a really nice swinging machine, which will get you GPX 5000/GPZ 7000 type ballpark performance, one way or the other, but ballpark, and that’s good enough for me. It’s one of several of the most powerful gold detectors on the market, and all of them have fan clubs. Even this one, says fan number one. If you prefer to use something else, good for you! If anything I said resonated with you, then maybe take a look at the GPX 6000. I hope this helps.
      Please do not repost without permission. Thanks, Steve Herschbach 2021

      Nuggets found April 20-21 in northern Nevada with GPX 6000
      Here is about a 1/2 ounce of California (left) and Nevada (right) gold I found while testing GPX 6000 prototypes:

       
    • By Jonathan Porter
      I’ve been detecting for gold for a VERY long time and have seen a lot of crazy things happen over the years but this recent experience takes the cake. On the same day but prior to when I filmed my son Joshua digging some gold with the GPX 6000 I heard Josh calling out to me to come take a look at what he was holding. I was perplexed to say the least because it looked like a big dead stick, so I just assumed he had some sort of interesting critter sitting on the stick and wanted to show me. When he got closer I couldn’t see anything that might have attracted his attention but he was looking at the stick very closely, so I just assumed it must be a tiny critter.

      Then he started mumbling something about getting a signal and how he had kicked the stick away and the signal had disappeared so he went and waved over the stick again and pow a signal coming off the stick!! At this stage I’m thinking a 22 Bullet or a slug gun pellet wedged in the wood.

      Then I saw what it was that had got him so excited!! 😝 

      Yep thats a small nugget wedged into the wood, how the dickens it got in there is anyone’s guess. I’m thinking it was in the gravelly wash around the trees root bowl and the tree had been blown over during a rain event (it’s obviously very old) and maybe a nugget had come up with the root bowl and then been washed across the trunk with the nugget then wedging itself into the crack!!
      Anyway it seems the GPX6000 can find gold in all sorts of strange places. 😂 

       
       
       
    • By VicR
      I picked up my 6000 on Monday and have had 3 days of trying out the new toy.
      First day - i took it to a local prospecting area well known for EMI and tried the 11" mono - the closer i came to the EMI area the less stable it became till it was unusable so i switched to no threshold and lowered the sensitivity - which seemed to work as it was a lot quieter but was capable of sounding off on buckshot. The second day - in same area i tried the 14" DD which totally tamed the EMI so i could run it on manual 10 sensitivity with a threshold. So i am wondering which is better - 11" mono with no threshold and low sensitivity or 14" DD with high sensitivity and a threshold?
      Also on the second day a friend had his GPZ7000 and we tested a sub gram nugget and a 3 gram nugget. Both machines  achieved very similar results - for example on the 3 gram nugget both detectors gave a iffy signal at 24cm but very clear signals at 23cms. Not a real scientific test i know but left us thinking both machines were very similar performance wise.
      Today i went to the beach to see how the DD coil performed in wet and dry sand - while there was occasional background warbles (i used no threshold) there was no problem in hearing targets loud and clear. Not sure i would use it for my beach work because of the lack of discrimination but for people who like digging everything, are hunting chains or need a bit more depth - it worked. Note - this was not a black sand beach.
      Likes -
      With the 11" coil its a breeze to swing - a bit heavier with the 14" but still good.
      No Sore Shoulder - & with no cords easier to be ambidextrous
      Set up time and tuning time is minimal.
      No cords , no battery back pack, no bungy cords - i did not get caught up in thick scrub.
      Headphones are comfy.
      Headphones paired easily (better than the Equinox).
      Confidence in performance tuning.
      Option of having threshold or no threshold. (switched to no threshold when pin pointing - made it easier sometimes with the 14" coil).
      Did i mention how light it is?
      Dislikes -
      None so far.
      Could do better (no deal breakers)-
      A case for the headphones would have been nice (like Equinox).
      Also a car cigarette lighter charger is not included.
      Wires on Headphones look pretty flimsy - time will tell if they are up to the job.
      A few times the rubber headphone socket protector unintentionally opened - its not a real firm fit.
       
      In summary - I have a smile on the dial - just need to get to some decent gold fields - maybe will be able to do that this weekend.
       
    • By Condor
      Are JP et al trading in their Z7000s in favor of the 6000?  Is this the "Go To" machine for everyday prospectors?  From initial reports it would appear the 6000 excels at sub half gram nuggets in OZ soils, but isn't expected to compete with the 7000 on bigger/deeper gold.  Here in the US, will I have to sell a kidney for the luxury of having both detectors?  It may be some time before us CONUS prospectors even see the availability of such a machine, do I sell the 7000 before the market is flooded?  Does anybody know what the recovery time is for a kidney donor?
    • By Steve Herschbach
      Apr 19, 2021 The Gold Rush Guy - "Great to finally get the new Minelab GPX 6000 and take it out for a run. Very impressed with its sensitivity, especially the depth of even small pieces of gold. Apologies with the video quality. Will rectify in future hunts."
       
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