Throw Away Those Metal Detectors And Use A Bit Of Wire Instead

[geof_junk]

I found a 51/2 oz nugget with my eyes once and I am sure if I was dowsing at the time the wires would of been spinning like helicopter blades.

 

[Walker]

It's easier to deceive someone than to convince them that they have been deceived. I will go pound for pound with the diviners.

[principedeleon]

I have heard of lots of findings here with rods..and there is no way someone could say it doesnt work.

Unless you expecting a false sense of reality of its capabilitly. 

Just like i know many who swore there detectores could locate Deep gold deposit with their metal detector.

I see no reason of comparing it to some metal detector that cost 1000s and 1000s of dollares. 

By far if people read the forum or others sites there is something behind them for a fact. 

Now everyone need to try it out for their self and see how they could use it effectly for there own. No need to be ignorant and then bashing something you didnt even tested it for a month straight. 

You buy a metal detector and spend years trying to find gold and many havent found their first piece. Does that mean that the metal detectors dont work ? 

Just need to test and test and learn what creates its effect and try to use it for your own mining experience. 

 

[Johnnysalami1957]

Anyone can divine for water. Just keep digging until you find it!

[Steve Herschbach]

9 hours ago, principedeleon said:

there is no way someone could say it doesnt work.

Yes there is, and I do say dowsing doesn’t work as a viable methodology for successful gold prospecting. Prove me wrong with science, I’ll eat my words. Because science does indeed not know everything, and mistakes are made. In the long run however, the built in methodology self corrects over time as accepted items are challenged. Science works, or I would not be typing on an iPad communicating over the internet.

Your argument is a fair argument principedeleon, except for the fact that this subject has been studied by many for decades. It’s not really an open question, as you or others present it. There are scientific explanations for the effects you are experiencing. I have tried dowsing, I know the effects people are experiencing. It is very compelling when experienced directly. However, it is not bashing to draw lines between proven reality, and wishful thinking. There are many wish based websites out there. That proves nothing. I think it’s bashing when people pile on to insist I must believe things they are unwilling to prove. Anyone with magical super powers should immediately contact the nearest university, as there are lots of people who’d love to see those powers demonstrated.

This website, if people bring up LRLs and dowsing, I’m going to push back in the name of science. It is misleading at best to tell novices they should consider dowsing as a viable gold prospecting methodology. No, they should not. That’s my position as an expert gold prospector, not just a casual observation. I’m willing to provide expert testimony in a court of law on the subject under oath. As long as I continue to own this website, I am going to push back on this stuff. Like everything in my life I’ve played middle ground on this too long. Well, no more. I have seen people waste their entire lives on this, when simply cracking a book open is the better option.

People demand scientific proof over coils, I do not see why dowsing gets this pass from the same people. Either present multiple peer reviewed, quality scientific studies to prove your position to me, or present yourself to said people to prove your powers, or I will remain a hard skeptic on this subject.

My advice to anyone who wants to be a successful gold prospector? Stick with the sciences, and get educated on the subject by genuine professionals. Be very careful who you listen to, as there are few areas with more scammers out to take your money than there are in gold prospecting. Uneducated people jumping into gold are just marks ready for the fleecing. Cultivating a little skepticism can save you from bankruptcy.

I bought Moore Creek Mine from a man famed for his map dowsing skills. Problem is that lead him on wild goose chases elsewhere when in fact the gold was under his feet. His folly made for my early retirement. I’m still collecting the checks a decade later because I used science to make my case for a two million dollar exploration program. They’d have laughed me out the door if I’d mentioned dowsing, and I would have been labeled a crackpot in professional circles. That is the best proof of how dowsing can benefit a person that I know of. His being mislead by dowsing directly paid for my house and early retirement. So you will have to excuse me for not thinking dowsing is the better option. I have a lifetime of experience and a pocket full of money that says otherwise. 

All About Long Range Locators

 

[Gold Catcher]

Some time ago, I heard a story about a Siemens engineer somewhere in the Midwest who was tired of his job and wanted to make more money quickly. So, he and a few buddies decided to start a business in their spare time and announced they developed a device with which you could hear the voice of god. Within a few months they sold thousands of these devices to firm believers and made a few million dollars with it. It cost them their (real) jobs, but they could retire comfortably. As I said before, (some but not all) people are made to believe in mysterious things and create alternative realities without any desire to fact check. Even more, they get angry and upset if anyone questions their dogma's. Not to speak about politics here, but conspiracy theories and fact distortions are at an alarming rate. For me, it's all good and I enjoy reading these witchcraft stories at times.  

[rvpopeye]

Real or not , it sure gave us all something to think (and post) about ! 

My uncle used to use the "rods" , taught us kids too.

If someone finds a huge hunka with the rods , more power to ya and keep up the good work !

BUT , here I am with my Nox 800.

[Steve Herschbach]

Obviously this is an area where people still think this is an open question. Ok, let’s see how many are willing to step up and show their stuff. I’m going to use my contacts at UNR to see if I can get interest in yet another study. Something really definitive. There is harm being created here via outright fraud as far as I am concerned, and that makes it worth an up-to-date look. A grant can probably be found, and maybe willing subjects, though everyone disappears when given the chance to show their magic. But I am going to make at least a serious attempt to see if I can get the ball rolling on something. May take some time, but patience is one of my greatest strengths. I’ll let you all know how it goes, and if the time comes, I’ll be looking for volunteers.

It would be interesting to see how many LRL manufacturers would send their gear to be tested, would it not? It’s all dowsing. They say otherwise, so let’s see them prove it at a top earth sciences university. Seems to me they should fund the study if they genuinely believed their gear could actually work. But we all know how that would play, don’t we? This subject has bugged me long enough I am willing to donate my time and money if need be. I’m sure I can round up some like minded people to help. Stay tuned.

LRL at Geotech

[water spider]

place a small gold needle in a large hay stack . dowsing vs metal detector.  and bet who wins. by the way i don't care if dowsing works it's inconsistent at best and it does not work. would the dowser even show up to the contest? not likely

[GotAU?]

16 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

I could use dowsing rods and find lots of gold.  Because I know how to find gold, and I promise those rods will end up taking me right where I want them to. Who is leading who? Do not underestimate the power of the human subconscious.

It’s always anecdotal, and always fails on closer examination. That’s just an uncomfortable fact.

https://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=/info/lrl_qa.dat

“Do not underestimate the power of the human subconscious.”

Good point, Steve. I think divining has more to do with influences from the subconscious mind than anything else. It even influences our conscious decision making without us even being aware of it:

https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p086k2xk/the-strange-idea-that-we-are-not-in-control-of-our-minds