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For the moment my Apex is back at Garretts because of a false signals issue ( see the corresponding thread ). So I cannot say I am happy with it ... I know I am not the only one with this issue ... So at the moment my rating is closer to 0 than 10 ...  🤨 

This might change when I get back the machine , I will redo all my testing procedure at this time and let you know . 

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Quite a good APEX test on a larger RAIDER coil ..

 

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On 2/5/2021 at 8:18 PM, Jeff McClendon said:

Compared to the AT Gold or the AT Max, I would choose either of them over the APEX.

Can you explain why you'd take an AT Max over the Apex, but not the AT Pro (sans waterproofing) over the Apex?

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On 2/5/2021 at 3:24 PM, Dances With Doves said:

How would you rate it's performance for the places and way you like to hunt so far at a scale of 0-10  ?  10 being the highest.  

On a scale of '0' to '10' I rate the Apex a solid '30.'

How did I get '30' you wonder?  Simple, I have three of the Apex Z-Lynk package in my personal detector outfit, so '10' X 3 = '30'. :smile: 

For my grab-and-go set-up to handle most day-to-day hunting locations, I keep the really nice 5X8 DD 'Ripper' coil mounted full-time on my main-use Apex.  My #2 Apex I grab when I work more open, sparser-target places, such as a wide-open park, a beach, or a plowed field.  That unit keeps the 'Raider' coil mounted which is their 8½X11 DD.  Apex #3 is ready-to-grab when i get into tight vegetation, rocks, building rubble, or very debris-filled locations where smaller-is-better, and that unit sports the NEL 'Sharp' 5" DD coil.

I'll add here that I really hope Garrett can find a way to offer their 4½" Concentric coil designed to work on the Apex.  I've had very good results with that coil in the past with other Garrett models.

As I stated, all three Apex devices are 'complete Z-Lynk packages.'  That is, all three have their own MS-3 wireless headphones paired to them, and all three have their own Z-Lynk AT Pro-Pointer as well.  I don't like to take time afield and change search coils, so since the early '70s I have preferred to keep different detectors with me that have different coils mounted for different tasks at-hand.

Winter crept in and hampered my ability to get out as much as I wanted, and then I have been dealing with a bad case of this Covid 19 stuff and recovering from that, but I really like the physical packaging, the ample, yet simple, settings and mode design of the Apex, and performance for me has been very satisfying.  And I have put my units against a variety of other makes and models I have had or currently own in my detector group.

A mistake I feel Garrett made was tagging the 'Ace' name to the Apex.  It is not an Ace series in any way and stands alone, right now, as an impressive sole-member of the 'Apex series.'  I did have a noisy behavior issue with one of my first two units, but a quick call and it was off to Garrett where they took care of it and got it back to me quickly, and working fine.

Monte

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On 2/7/2021 at 10:45 AM, mh9162013 said:

Can you explain why you'd take an AT Max over the Apex, but not the AT Pro (sans waterproofing) over the Apex?

I'm not Jeff, but I would also take the AT Max over the AT Pro.  Why?  The AT Max offers a Threshold-based All Metal mode and the AT Pro and Apex do not have a true All Metal mode.  Also, I only had short use of a borrowed AT Max but I liked its performance over the AT Pro I compared it with.

Monte

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That’s a Whites 66 TR and a great machine for the time.

 I later gave mine to a friend and he done a mod on the battery hookup . I bought it around 71 and that detector still works.

 Chuck 

 

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11 minutes ago, Monte said:

I'm not Jeff, but I would also take the AT Max over the AT Pro.  Why?  The AT Max offers a Threshold-based All Metal mode and the AT Pro and Apex do not have a true All Metal mode.  Also, I only had short use of a borrowed AT Max but I liked its performance over the AT Pro I compared it with.

Monte

Thanks Monte. What you say largely parallels what Jeff told via PM.

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3 hours ago, Monte said:

...I really like the physical packaging, the ample, yet simple, settings and mode design of the Apex, and performance for me has been very satisfying.  And I have put my units against a variety of other makes and models I have had or currently own in my detector group.

Is there a particular kind of detecting you do that would make you lean towards the Apex as your first choice?  I seem to recall you've said in other posts that the N/M CoRe and Relic and the Tesoro's get priority in some situations, but that was before the Apex was released, I think.

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my local detector dealer told me the Apex uses a built in lithium battery and a replacement costs a bunch of moola if it ever goes bad? He doesn't like them for that reason alone. Is this an issue or not?   Main reason I decided not to buy one.

-Tom V.

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