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   Hello all,

   I recently saw someone state that they didn't fully understand why they sometimes get the urge to buy a certain detector! And for one reason or another, fail to pull the trigger, or asking the question of why not!

   I, like many here, have questioned why i would want to purchase; and have purchased, what would "technically" be an "inferior" detector! If there is such a thing; they all find stuff!!

   I think the reason's are as numerous as one can imagine! So i won't bore everyone with what i think their reasons are! I can only speak for myself!

   Probably my number one driving factor are places like this forum, and other sources for research! Once you really start to get the "bug" for detecting, you begin to understand that it can go beyond just finding treasures! In fact, my reading, and quest for information, far exceeds my actual detecting hours! Of course, there are also "real life" reasons that prevent me from getting out there as often as i would like! But instead of that being a negative; and me being bitter about it! I funnel that energy into trying to soak up more knowledge to make my actual detecting hours more productive! Many here will understand this!

   So, for those thay are unclear what that has to do with buying older, or less advanced detectors, i will explain!

   Like many, i detected a few years when i was young! Stopped for a career, and family; among other reasons! And got back to it, a few years before my retirement five years ago! Not being involved for all those years, i went with a new detector; among others i researched at the time!

   Now fast forward to today! I'm much more knowledgeable than seven years ago; detecting and theory wise, but have barely scratched the surface! I own several detectors for various functions! Some overlapping each other a bit in operation! A few others are just for fun, or for something i feel i missed, in my absent years! Other's were too good a deal to pass up! And I could get a good return for, if i chose to!

   So, to summarize! In my opinion, the longer your in it, the wider range of technology, legends, varations, etc... you are likely to buy, and try, for no very practical reason! Cost not withstanding; as you advance in this hobby! Or as some jokingly refer to it as a "sickness ", or "obsession "! 🤩 👍👍

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The answers range from "how many detectors can you swing at one time?" to "no detector covers all situations".  And those are just the logical answers.  The used detector market is pretty robust so as long as you're as willing to sell as you are to buy then your cost is minimal.

I remember a wagering discussion that went something like the following:

person 1) You bet $100 on tonight's football game?  Isn't that a lot of money?

person 2) The bookmaker's rake is 5% so if I do nothing more than flip a coin, on average it's going to cost me $5.  You're going to a movie tonight?  What's that's gonna cost you?

Isn't that more/less what you're doing when you buy a detector, try it out, and sell it?

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