GPX 6000 All I Want To Know Is

[afreakofnature]

Awesome Steve can't wait to hear your thoughts on the machine!!  So they really did customize it for you! 😁

Trolls are few that ruin for the many.  Just remember there are the many that are not.  A troll is called a troll for a reason and live under the bridge for the same reason.  Forums need a "block caller" button for members, then people a user don't like would never have to see there degrading posts, then they may wonder why they never get a response. 🤣

Its sucks too because we sometimes have critical responses that we want to know opinions on but the trolls set off people and then those folks get thrown under the bus too.  I have learned to ignore, I had a blow up once on a Pickleball chat, it pissed me off, but after the blow up I was still no where closer than I was after reading the trolls post.  Blah. Little people behind a big keyboard.

[beatup]

Looking forward to hear what you have say Steve.

[Swegin]

1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

I’m was on the GPX 6000 development crew.

I will never play poker with you. LOL

 

[Steve Herschbach]

Trash is easier than gold so far this morning  good showing already though so no worries, will finish out day, be home very late.

I just wanted to note that fact production unit was delivered to my doorstep means dealer units are not far behind, probably on the way right now.

 

[cobill]

3 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

I think JP summed it up nicely. Yeah, 6000 gives Monster run for the money, but I still bet on Monster for the tiniest bits.

Yeah, the 6000 gives the 7000 a run for the money, but I still bet on the GPZ for the deepest bits.

For me 6000 is SDC that should have been, in regular box, with swappable coils. And better ability to obtain a smooth threshold while retaining power. SDC is more compact, fully submersible, less expensive, and will kill hot rocks that will bother 6000. But for me there is no comparison. Maybe an SDC owner that has Coiltek coils, but not really. That’s an aftermarket kludge, and looks it.

So you could say the 6000 is like an SDC done up like a normal detector. But for me in my mind it’s “GPZ Lite” as the 6000 audio responses largely mirror GPZ responses as far as hot rocks and salt, though the 6000 handles salt way better. But anyone used to a GPZ will find 6000 familiar, just easier and smoother.

It’s all very straight forward, with the only calculus here one to be made by people weighing 6000 vs 7000. For the power users, it will come up GPZ or GPZ plus 6000! For people like me.... 6000 all the way. I’m enough older than JP that our paths have now parted ways. Power guys are more in JP camp, I’m more in retiree camp, slowing down, and the GPX 6000 was made for me. Perfect detector at perfect time of my life. It’s 6000 + Equinox for me, 100% covered for anything. 6000 first, Equinox for trash and the tiniest bits (also gives Monster a run for the money there).

All I can say is I let the 7000 go when 6000 entered radar, have not regretted it yet. In fact after yesterday, I’m happier than ever. Just spent a day digging Nevada nuggets, my shiny new GPX 6000 is no longer a gold virgin! Dig some more today.... report soon. I think I’m ungagged 

Steve, 

You got my attention at "happier than ever"! Let us know how that elusive 17" coil works for deeper targets...it may just reduce the GPZ edge on deeper bits. WOW, so excited I pre-ordered a GPX 6000 and traded in my GPZ, this is going to be a game changer for those of us in retiree camp and slowing down.😄   Thanks Gerry McMullen.

No more: Heavy detector, ML harness with struts, ferrite to GB, GB decision of Auto, Semi-Auto or Manual, trying to maintain proper coil control with a heavy coil, not being able to scrape the ground, X signal and saturation signal confusing the detector, wet salt signals that make the detector go crazy, etc, etc, etc. I'm FREE!

Bill 

 

[Gold Catcher]

18 minutes ago, cobill said:

No more: Heavy detector, ML harness with struts, ferrite to GB, GB decision of Auto, Semi-Auto or Manual, trying to maintain proper coil control with a heavy coil, not being able to scrape the ground, X signal and saturation signal confusing the detector, wet salt signals that make the detector go crazy, etc, etc, etc.

I am a contrarian: i still like all of that! But also will enjoy the 6000.

[Steve Herschbach]

2 hours ago, Swegin said:

I will never play poker with you. LOL

 

This was the most secretive project yet. Picture Steve crouched in bottom of ditch with prototype wrapped in garbage bag because a car came up. The protos spent most of their time in garbage bags, for fear a telephoto might see something. The actual shape was a big secret, no photos, don’t be seen.... adds a little extra challenge to nugget detecting.

I am however, a lousy poker player, so no worries there!

[Jonathan Porter]

1 hour ago, cobill said:

Steve, 

You got my attention at "happier than ever"! Let us know how that elusive 17" coil works for deeper targets...it may just reduce the GPZ edge on deeper bits. WOW, so excited I pre-ordered a GPX 6000 and traded in my GPZ, this is going to be a game changer for those of us in retiree camp and slowing down.😄   Thanks Gerry McMullen.

No more: Heavy detector, ML harness with struts, ferrite to GB, GB decision of Auto, Semi-Auto or Manual, trying to maintain proper coil control with a heavy coil, not being able to scrape the ground, X signal and saturation signal confusing the detector, wet salt signals that make the detector go crazy, etc, etc, etc. I'm FREE!

Bill 

 

You’re not free, metal detecting with the 6000 will still have all the little pre-ambles that are associated with the laws of physics. So scraping the coils is still a no no (In mineralised variable ground types), this is because the 6000 is an extremely early sampling PI, as such it will react to ground signals just as much or even more if you do not exercise some coil control, just that now it is a LOT easier on the GPX because it really is a lightweight sweetie. ❤️ 😊  To deal with salt you will need to use the DD coil and that means a heavier coil, but wow is it sensitive to small surface gold, and I do mean WOW 😳 

Tips for forum readers: 

• Use the headphones direct wired for the cleanest smoothest threshold. 😉 
• Use the Quick-Trak button often especially in variable ground to keep that GB within the 95% to 99% of accurate range, there is no such thing as a positive or negative offset with a ML PI, always try to keep that GB exactly where it needs to be.
• In some ground types there is actually two Ground Balance points, one is approx 50mm from the ground and up and the other is between 50mm and almost touching the ground, in extremely variable ground that close to ground GB is the most important one and requires effort to maintain, use small pumping movements of the coil with Quik-Trak held in, bringing the coil down to just about kissing the ground (or where saturation is felt) until there is minimal movement signal on either the up or down movement. 
• Do not be afraid to back off the Sensitivity, the 6000 Sensitivity is very much environment based so ground signal has the same value as EMI in the scheme of things, as an experiment back off the Sensitivity control to zero (1 bar) and test a tiny surface signal to see what I mean. 
• DO NOT be tempted to crash too much volume into your audio, it is best to start with a low volume and slowly increase as that is much easier than going from high volume to lower volumes. This is especially important when using the BT headphones as there are double volume controls available and a balance needs to be made between the detector and headphone volume controls.

Hope this helps
JP

 

[Steve Herschbach]

9 minutes ago, Jonathan Porter said:

So scraping the coils is still a no no

Not for me, been scrubbing the heck out of the 11” coil, going to need lots of scuff covers. So funny you say that... I’d say just the opposite for what I’m doing. Just goes to show why people are needed in different areas with different focus. And 11” mono handles salt so well, way better than GPZ, that the DD will be for truly worst case scenarios here... and the beach! 

JP and I hunt different ground, and I’m half nuts, so my Nevada recommendations will tend to be “hot” compared to JPs. I’m running the 6000 like it’s a Gold Bug 2, already lobbying for smaller “scrubber coil!” 

[Jonathan Porter]

19 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Not for me, been scrubbing the heck out of the 11” coil, going to need lots of scuff covers. So funny you say that... I’d say just the opposite for what I’m doing. Just goes to show why people are needed in different areas with different focus. And 11” mono handles salt so well, way better than GPZ, that the DD will be for truly worst case scenarios here... and the beach! 

JP and I hunt different ground, and I’m half nuts, so my Nevada recommendations will tend to be “hot” compared to JPs. I’m running the 6000 like it’s a Gold Bug 2, already lobbying for smaller “scrubber coil!” 

I presume you’re spending a lot of your time in Normal timings then Steve? 🤔 (Indicative of the ground you’re working)  And your right it’s vital that a wide variety of ground types are accessed during field testing. 👍 The GPX11” mono will handle salt better than the 7000 because it is a smaller coil than the GPZ14. But when the ground is wet or its a very conductive/salty area the only choice will be the DD coil. 😊 

Tip: 😊

• Difficult has just as much sensitivity and depth as Normal on the smaller sub gram targets.🧐

Please note: A lot of  our OBP customers read this forum so think of my advice as being  generally aimed at Australian conditions and users and Steves advice for the US conditions etc.