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Fisher F75 Giving The Equinox A Good Old Butt Kicking


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I stumbled across this video of the F75 finding a silver coin deeper than the Equinox, and then he goes on to show the F75 performing better finding a coin between iron.

What are your thoughts on this one? I never did bother buying a F75 even though a SE edition came up for sale extraordinary cheap nearby to me, my experience with my T2 had me thinking my Nox was better in almost all situations, was I wrong?    I'm a bit puzzled by this video and I guess it could be soil conditions or something but I've found my Nox far better on deep silver than my T2 and I sure have experimented a lot on untouched in ground silvers.

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Not sure how a F75 would go on the beach.. I know the Nox (600 and 800) with big coils (both ML and Coiltek) punch deep on the beach, not matter how wet or salty the sand.. All my silver coins were found on the beach with a Nox and I've compared them to the Gold Bug Pro, Gold Monster, Gofind and a X-Terra 705 in the same location.. The F75 is an unknown beast for me.. but I don't think I'd swap it for a Nox for beach detecting..   

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In my experience (and that includes my soil's mineralization), the depths are more/less comparable for coins, but the Minelab Equinox holds its TID much better than the Fisher F75, which tends to make deeper coins sound ferrous.

I recall reading some reviews on other metal detecting sites saying something about the F75 being a great relic detector but not a coin killer.  Since some relic hunters dig it all (because iron relics can be prized), that kinda makes sense based upon my experience.

I'd be surprised if the F75 performed much differently than the T2.

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First, I have total, undying respect for the F75 and the T2. I am not going to speak about them except to say that the reviewer obviously knows his F75 very well and knows what it can and can't do.

Now, if I wanted to do a head to head on planted targets that I know my F75 can handle versus the Equinox 600........would I learn the Equinox 600 well before doing the video in order to actually make it an optimized head to head? I would. I would not plan to make a public video and call up my detector dealer the day before and ask what settings I should use. Has the dealer detected the video maker's test garden? Does the dealer know his soil conditions?  

Anyway, an 11" silver US dime is no joke of a target. That is tough for just about any detector. The video maker does report in the comment section of the video that his dirt is 2 to 3 bar dirt (out of 6 bars on the F75), so fairly mild mineralization. He uses default Park 1 on both tested targets with iron discriminated out. If he has an updated 600 the Fe or F2 iron bias setting is 2 (=4 on the Nox 800). The 11" dime target sounds like it has enough iron around it to result in the Equinox detection tones breaking up over the target. So already this is not a fair test. Press the horseshoe button and lower the iron bias to F2= 1 or 0, raise the sensitivity a bit and swing a little slower. Also, I would try Park 2 or Field 2, 2 tones, nothing discriminated and play with the iron bias. The higher frequency weighting might just hit more of that deep silver dime if it is being masked at all.

I got a good laugh when he said he was going to turn on the iron tone........(horseshoe button) definitely knows the Nox 600 well....not!

The same happens during the wheat penny in between iron target scenario. Lowering F2 to 0 with nothing discriminated is where I would start on that target and I would probably use Park 2 or Field 2 in 2 tones not 50 and adjust things from there. 

The F75 with his settings in those soil condition may still be better, but at least give the Equinox a chance.

 

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1 hour ago, Tnsharpshooter said:

The 600 model doesn’t have a speed equivalent of the 800’s model speed 4 setting. 

 

Hi David, 

It is always great to hear your ideas and experiences. I enjoy your videos too.

It is my understanding (I think from the Equinox Manual, can’t remember) that the 600  recovery speed settings of 1, 2 and 3 equal the 800s settings of 2, 4 and 6. So the 600 does not have the 800s recovery speed settings of 1, 3, 5, 7 and 8.

That really is a lot of important recovery speed settings that the 600 doesn’t have. The situation is similar with iron bias too.

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35 minutes ago, Jeff McClendon said:

Hi David, 

It is always great to hear your ideas and experiences. I enjoy your videos too.

It is my understanding (I think from the Equinox Manual, can’t remember) that the 600  recovery speed settings of 1, 2 and 3 equal the 800s settings of 2, 4 and 6. So the 600 does not have the 800s recovery speed settings of 1, 3, 5, 7 and 8.

That really is a lot of important recovery speed settings that the 600 doesn’t have. The situation is similar with iron bias too.

Good catch.

You are correct.  See this link page 51.  

https://www.minelab.com/__files/f/414877/4901-0249-7 Inst. Manual, EQUINOX 600 800 EN.pdf

Still doesn’t really change anything really I said. I have been on sites where comparing deeper nonferrous using 800, speed 5 was better choice.  So a 600 user wouldn’t have gotten the performance I was seeing/hearing.  

And knowing where an item is in a test garden not equivalent to a target in the wild.  I try to be very objective when trying to ascertain would I based on detector coil height, sweep speed, coil position and signal obtained in test garden would I dig (locate) in the wild.

Wonder how many 11” deep dimes the gent has recovered using his F75?

I have not recovered a single one.

A few 10” deep ones (Etrac and CTX used).

 

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I would have to agree with Tnsharpshooter from my experiences using all 3 machines. F75,T2 and 800. F75 and T2 were great back in the days and maybe ahead of times back then. Now days ya can't take me away from my 800 or Deus.

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I can take any detector and make it out shine the very best money can buy.

 To prove my point I have a detector that can clean up what others have missed even the Equinoxs 800 . It can hunt in the highest mineralization and yet clean up where only it can .

 Being I don’t have a camera to prove what I say is true that this is the best dirt detector .

 I’ll let speak for it’s self!

 Chuck 

PS I wonder if I could enter this in the contest that Gerrys having.

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