Jump to content

Deep Tech Vista X Demon

Recommended Posts

The ground is too dry & hard on my red dirt sites right now so I re hunted a deep sand site that was in cultivation long ago. I ran the Vista X with the 12X14 Demon coil. Targets are sparse, but what is left is deep or masked by iron. Nothing noteworthy found but I was impressed again at the ability of this bigger coil. Excellent depth even on very small targets. 22 short case @ 8", .22 bullet about the same. Of course I also dug a half dozen bent cut nails at 10-12" but that's okay too. Even when I moved into the nail bed areas the coil showed surprising separation. I dug an iron backed overall button that I know I had been over before. It didn't sound good but it did sound "not as bad" as the nails. That's what I'm down to on this site. But the digging is easy and it was nice to be out.

I would like to ask Steve to consider a separate Forum for Deep Tech detectors. I think they are that good.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 hours ago, JCR said:

I would like to ask Steve to consider a separate Forum for Deep Tech detectors. I think they are that good

They are good detectors. Forums are based more on activity level than anything else though, and Deep Tech related posts are too few and far between for a dedicated forum. If that ever changed, then it could happen.

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Always curious if the Vista X has a momentary toggle for all metal and 2nd disc.

The 2 other machines I had my eye on is the Warrior and Gold Gain. Both have independant gain and sensitivity. If they had a threshold adjustment for the all metal mode I would probably go for the Gold Gain and also get the smaller coil. Not sure how good all metal would be without a threshold, I like to hear the variations in the ground as I swing especially for deep and small targets that are so easy to miss in disc mode.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm not positive on the Gold Gain & Warrior. On the X, the Threshold is adjusted along with the Gain to get stable for the site conditions. You can run on the ragged edge with the TH sizzling in the background but it's not the steady hum like a traditional AM, This is true for the Disc side also. On the Vista X, the AM & Disc are practically equal in performance. You have to have fresh, hot batteries to see any difference at all. I run in 2 tone Disc, adjusting the Iron/low tone volume to suite, never silent. I use the AM to pinpoint deeper targets & outline big targets. You can monitor your Ground Balance while in Disc same as AM.

It is a unique machine in so many good ways; VERY EMI stable, very precise Disc & a real pleasure to hunt with. They are also a bargain.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

They are good detectors. Forums are based more on activity level than anything else though, and Deep Tech related posts are too few and far between for a dedicated forum. If that ever changed, then it could happen.

I understand. That is a very reasonable policy. I just wasn't sure where to make the post on Deep Tech. Hopefully there will be more mention of them. Understanding your logic also makes me really appreciate your making a seeming exception for Tarsacci as an American start up with exciting technological possibilities. Thanks

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well, it may seem like an exception but it’s not. There were and are plenty of posts on the MDT, so the forum got set up. People post there daily.

I have the ability to collect and move posts to various locations at will. I’ve done a forum search on Deep Tech, and there are only a handful of posts over literally years of forum activity. Long story short, there only used to be one forum here, and each sub-forum is the result of organic growth driven by the forum membership. I actually tried to force a couple forums into existence, and they went nowhere, and were deleted. It takes a certain critical mass to keep a forum active. All I can say is talk a bunch of people into posting regularly about Deep Tech detectors, and I’d be more than happy to set up a forum for them. :smile: It does not take much to get my attention, but it’s got to be more than a post every couple months or more.

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here's an extremely detailed review of the Deeptech Vista X by Monte on his site:


  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

When Tesoro went out of business I emailed Deeptech on making a dual discrim machine like the Tejon. They ended up going a bit further with the 2 tone discriminators. I think with the 2 tone and single tone you can do a bit more than the Tejon. I mean in the sens you can run your first disc with minimal (lower discrim) and 2nd as a 2 tone with a higher break or run it with just low and high break on disc much like the Tejon in single tone or run first as all metal and 2nd at what ever breaks you want.

Tejon I always run the primary discrim lower than the 2nd. I also never run it full time in all metal simply because the recovery speed is very slow compared to many other machines out there making it difficult to hear smaller targets. From what I heard the Vista X has a much quicker recovery speed.

One of the things that kept me from getting a Vista X was the location of the toggle switches. I really hoped they would do a trigger like the Tejon, Racers and F75 have. That is probably the best spot for pin pointing.

For threshold and listening to the changes in ground with a nice steady and smooth hum I think the Kruzer and Gold Racer are incredible for that.

Now for the independent gain and sensitivity, the reason that I still thing other manufacturers should do the same is simple. Gain is the over all power of the machine and sensitivity is the break point of where the machine responds to what is ground phase and what is a target. That fine adjustment can really help pick out targets.

How I would run it in the field is simple. In the case of deep searching you can simply crank up the gain and start to drop the sensitivity to settle the machine down and make it run quiet and not chattery. As gain goes up you start to pick up more mineralization and I can sort of equate that with looking down a foggy road.

Another thing you can do is run the gain really low and sensitivity up so you can essentially hunt recent drops and small jewelry without blasting the ground and picking up deeper targets.

Between the Warrior at 18khz and the Gold Gain at 30khz I think I would lean towards the Gold Gain for myself as I have a few other machines in the lower khz. The Warrior with the large coil supposedly can go very deep and hit higher conductor coins in the 18"+ mark. That sounds great but I think there are only a handful of spots around me that might possibly produce a target that deep but I tend to think it would be unlikely. That doesn't go without saying that the Warrior would rule meadows that havent been cut or where grass is a bit higher.

Still not sure why they wouldnt put a threshold control on the Gold Gain, basically without it is just a high frequency coin and relic machine. Not that its a bad thing but the name doesn't quite fit the machine.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

As an example, Find's Treasure Forums has a Deeptech  Forum which doesn't get much attention, it's a pity. I use a Vista X and find less junk with that than my Equinox and the simplicity of the X is a pleasure to use. I just crank my main discrimination up until it can still pick up a Threepence and it will pick up every other pre decimal coin I'm looking for and I've never dug a nail they don't exist with the X. Turn the disc up a touch over 40 and you knock out aluminium screw caps but loose Threepence's, that's OK if there's to many screw caps. If you get a loud  high tone lift the coil a foot off the ground, if it's still reasonably loud more likely a aluminium can. Vista X is like my Tesoro Cibola but on steroids.             

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Review by Keith Southern, with video:

DeepTech Vista X metal detector

16 kHz frequency
New electronics box - 2.5 times smaller than old design
New improved battery box design
New coil design - deeper and with better separation
Wider discrimination - offers ability beyond simple ferrous/non-ferrous operation for modern sites
Twin discrimination modes
Easy switching between ALL Metal, 2 Tone and ALT DISC modes
Iron Volume control adjusts volume of ferrous tone
IP68 connectors with gold pins
Waterproof connectors and an O-ring between the box and the front panel for even better isolation on humid weather
2.87 lbs (1300 grams) without 8 AA batteries installed


  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Similar Content

    • By ☠ Cipher
      Air Metal Detectors, a machine that uses your cell phone as a passive remote, is now a reality. It has existed in prototype form for years now, but has finally entered production and now is in the hands of some backers. Backers of its Kickstarter campaign will be first in line, so it may be months before the general public can get our hands on one. Below are some photos of an unboxing. Instantly it reminds one of the XP Deus in many ways. It also functions similarly with the main hardware stuffed in the coil while your phone replaces the remote. This unit is around 7khz if I remember correctly, so it this model is neither selectable nor multifrequency, but the inventor has said he plans for his next machine to be multifrequency. This machine faced many hurdles before the inventor was finally happy with it. So it will be interesting when the first reviews pop up. What do you think of the concept?

    • By Tnsharpshooter
      Saw this posted.  Detector delayed due to virus being reported.  Think you got to be a member here to see entire thread.  If what is said in thread turns out to be true, detector will have some nice features.
    • By Tnsharpshooter
      Seems Garrett is going to market one of the what was White’s gold VLF detector models soon.  Don’t know which one though.
    • By phrunt
      One of the things I like most about VLF's is their target ID's.  I'm amazed with detectors being able to ID targets.  Where I hunt I prefer to dig as few holes as possible so I heavily rely on Target ID's.  My front yard is the most difficult place around my area for coin's to ID well, it has the EMI of my house nearby, the worst seems to come from my long range wireless router, I'm also abut 100 meters away from some high voltage power lines that carry power from the nearby windmills to the town.  Once away from my front yard the results of this test do not change much, the ones that shine in this test are even better away from the EMI and the ones that struggle in this test while they do improve their overall performance ranking on Target ID's doesn't really change. 
      What I've done with this video is tweaked the detectors the best I know how to handle the EMI with as high sensitivity that keeps them stable and gives their best hope of a good ID, some run fine maxed out in sensitivity while others needed high disc to operate.  If I lowered the sensitivity anymore on the ones that are struggling with the EMI they would no longer detect the deeper of the two targets so I have to allow some EMI interference to get that deeper target.
      I've put white rocks on the grass where the two targets are located.  The target on the left side is the deepest at about 8" while the right easier target is the same coin at about 6".  They've been there around 2 years.  Both are NZ $1 coins.
              1 dollar coin specifications
      Diameter (mm)
           Weight (g)
               Edge thickness (mm)
                      Edge treatment
                   Intermittent milling
      Not all detectors are running equal coils, this is part of the equation of course on how well they perform.  While the bigger coils get more depth and can accurately get ID's often better than the littler coils they do suffer more from EMI and also on the deeper target they're often more affected by the nail that is about  4" in front of the deeper of the two coins.  The entire area of lawn is covered in roofing nails from when the roof was replaced some years ago.  The roofers just throw nails down all over the place while removing the old roof.
      So this test wasn't to say some detectors are bad or good, it was just showing why I like certain detectors for hunting in my conditions around here, and why I think some excel over others in these conditions with the coils that I have for them.  Each have the coil I find best out of the coils I own to suit this test.  If I put smaller coils on some of the detectors they are unable to detect the deeper left target at all for example the 6" coil won't see the left target on the Nox at all.
      If I had to rank these detectors out of which will give me the best target ID's in the soils around here I would rank them as follows:
      #1 Vanquish so very close in performance to the CTX/Nox but just that tiny bit better as the Vanquish handles EMI the best.
      #2 Equinox / CTX 3030 are so close in performance I'd say they're about the same, although I have very limited CTX knowledge so far being very new to it.
      #3 Ace 300i (In this video it suffers the most from EMI but get it 100 meters away from my house and it shines with good depth and ID's ONLY with the Tornado coil giving it the #3 ranking)
      #4 Gold Bug Pro / Detech Ultimate combo, change back to any other coil I own and it's performance drops a bit.
      The AT Gold, and Teknetics T2 come in at the bottom, I'm not yet sure if the AT Gold is due to the smaller coil size or not, I only have that one coil for it, the T2 is a depth monster but it's ID's are poor by comparison I think, and the smaller coils on the Vanquish and Equinox easily give more accurate ID's on the shallower of the two targets than the AT Pro and even in the best conditions its ID's are nowhere near as accurate as some others when targets get deeper.
      Now please don't read into this in any way that I'm bagging out certain detectors or something, that's not my intention and while the T2 might be at the bottom perhaps in other conditions it might be on the top, I do not know.  The AT Gold I only have the standard coil for so it's instantly at a disadvantage.  What I'm doing is showing why I prefer the detectors that I do for the conditions I hunt in for my coin hunting where I rely on Target ID's for dig decisions.
      This video really shows why I like the Vanquish so much around here for coin hunts.  I'm looking forward to learning more about the CTX it seems very promising and is doing well on silver coins in my local spots so far.  Sorry for the Ace section, at 1:05 I switch to the deeper target, I was too close to the screen with the video so it is hard to tell when I switch targets, especially with the Ace giving similar ID performance on both targets.
      What stands out to me is I could tell a local person hunting in my area if they just wanted to find a bunch of coins and some rings or something without spending much money they could easily just buy a Vanquish or an Ace and do quite well, and not really be left miles behind over someone with something like a CTX, keeping in mind once you're away from my yard junk levels go down to next to nothing, iron junk is very rare in our parks and sports areas around here, with the main junk being bottle tops and pull tabs, and low value coins 🙂
      Obviously this changes for people with very high trash or different soils or whatever variable makes it invalid.
    • By phrunt
      This woman goes detecting in high heels 🙂
      The article: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/31/style/metal-detectorists-ring-finders.html
      Below is a segment of the article so you can decide if you want to click on the link to read the rest
      People have been metal detecting since 1881, when Alexander Graham Bell invented a device to find the bullet lodged in President James Garfield.
      But it took several more decades for recreational metal detectors — devices that resemble “sort of a skillet on the end of a pole,” as one newspaper put it in 1927 — to develop a serious cult following.
      Now, that cult following is growing. Detector makers are reporting record sales. According to an annual report from one brand, Minelab, in 2020 the company sold 30 percent more detectors than the previous year, which had climbed 18 percent the year before that.
      And we are in a bit of a detectorist media moment. New York magazine is making listicles of the best metal detector models. Drew Barrymore is giving them away on her show. The teenage sketch comedian Parker James is wielding one before his six million TikTok followers. In England, Carey Mulligan is making it mainstream; on Nantucket, millennials are making it fashion; and in the gaming industry, a romantic thriller-meets-metal detecting video game will be released this summer.
  • Create New...