Tom Slick Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I have found I have much better results by cutting out the plastic spring and replacing it with two small screws, two nuts, and a small metal spring. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basstrackerman Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 10 hours ago, Tom Slick said: "I've not seen anything from XP that's cheaply made" You must have forgotten about that Robust Coil charging clip. 😁 The charging clip costs little compared to an entire carbon fiber shaft and aftermarket arm cuff and aftermarket coil ear stiffeners. There are aftermarket charging clips for $25 that will last forever. :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basstrackerman Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 7 hours ago, Tom Slick said: I have found I have much better results by cutting out the plastic spring and replacing it with two small screws, two nuts, and a small metal spring. Try this one. Although your idea is fine also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff McClendon Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, basstrackerman said: Try this one. Although your idea is fine also. That clip looks to be well made from a 3D printer and should be a good aftermarket option. The OEM XP clip costs half as much in the USA IF you can find one. They have been sold out on most big metal detector sales sites for over a year. None on Ebay USA at the moment either. This little argument over whose is bigger/better/the best..........who cares, started from this statement: "That skinny cable will be less resistant in the water than a standard coil cable which will be on the other water detector. " and has proceeded from there to escalate into a mini detector war. I have used the Deus underwater kit, several waterproof Nokta Makro wired coil detectors and the Equinox underwater in both fresh and saltwater conditions. All three work. I have not noted a big resistance difference created by antennas and coil cables. Resistance is noticeable in coil design, weight and where the coil nut/shaft connection is located. Smaller coils have always worked better for me submerged than 11"+ coils as far as drag and ease of use underwater. I was definitely the most concerned about the XP underwater kit antenna wire coming loose from the coil. I always put on the rubber band and taped it down too along with plenty of velcro on the shaft to hold the small diameter antenna wire in place. Hopefully the Deus 2 has a more secure antenna clip and has the option of running the wire inside the shaft....... With the Nokta Makro and Equinox I did not do anything besides making sure the coil cable was not flopping around before submerging it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basstrackerman Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jeff McClendon said: This little argument over whose is bigger/better/the best..........who cares, started from this statement: "That skinny cable will be less resistant in the water than a standard coil cable which will be on the other water detector. " So my statement started an argument? Lol. I wasn't sure what his issue was with antenna . Was it resistance innthe water? Chance of falling off? The pain of putting on? That's all in meant. I didn't start an argument lol but it is a thinner wire so in reality it should be less resistance in the water. Same difference as a smaller coil, less plastic in coil, thinner shaft like the one made by Steve for the Tarsacci . Thinner is always less resistance as long as same shape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_e Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Back on topic.... I'll likely grab a Legend a few months after the initial reports. Winter is starting here. I've done it with the Racer2, the Impact, and the Simplex+ and was happy each time. I'm adding it as a 3rd machine to supplement the Impact and the Equinox 600. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff McClendon Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I can't speak for Dan and what he might be wondering about with the XP underwater antenna. From the Deus ll manual, the antenna setup and attachments at the coil appear to be very similar to Deus l. In fast water or water with strong currents or underwater objects that can snag the small antenna wire, I am taping that connector for sure and adding more than just two velcro straps to the wire. I like how the upper end of the antenna wire connects to the Deus ll remote. I still wish the antenna wire was inside the shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basstrackerman Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, Jeff McClendon said: can't speak for Dan and what he might be wondering about with the XP underwater antenna. I wasn't asking you to. I was referring to my original post and was myself wondering what his concern was with the antenna. And I tossed out some possibilities but have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal_Cobra Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 DELETED (commented on wrong post lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke em Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/6/2021 at 6:16 AM, Jeff McClendon said: I have broken two Deus butterfly charging clips………I have never been called heavy handed by anyone and I rarely break things. I would not call those charging clips cheap by the way. I do consider them to be poorly designed. Not calling anyone heavy handed . But there is a knack for fitting them . Some people do fit them with a bit more force than needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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