relicmeister Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I noticed that the new NM Legend has a compressed target Id range - slightly more increments than the Equinox. The Deus Ii , however has the full -6.4 to +99. Given the generally more accurate ID compared to single frequencies, what is the benefit of this? There was a lot of negative feedback in the early days of the Nox - it didn’t bother me but Do you think it will result in better pre-recovery ideas of what targets might be due to the full range ? Just interested in what people think of this , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCR Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Good topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickelNdimed Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I’ve wondered if it would help differentiating a copper penny from a dime better. They are so close and similar on the Equinox. I’ve hunted some sites where I have found a bunch of wheats but not a single silver dime and wondered if someone more skilled or with a different scale sniffed them out and left the wheats behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull diver Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 6 hours ago, relicmeister said: Do you think it will result in better pre-recovery ideas of what targets might be due to the full range ? Sure can be Better than a compressed ID scale. For a dry hunt, with the right amount of time and the patience to dig every good repeatable signal, It doesn't matter so much. But now think about me. A medium scuba tank can last up to three hours in the shallows till the danger to remain out of air. Now, if I dig, I burn more air than normal doing not only an effort in terms of physical stress, but progressively reducing my time on the bottom. What a relief can be to trust in a stable ID value (at depth, not only under the coil)? Why to burn more air digging targets falling under the same number as a group? I try to make It simpler. Two clear tones, One of them for iron. If the tone Is High, a Quick check to Id and maybe i'll dig, otherwise, move and proceed to scan. I also prefer iron type response over conductivity. Cause with numbers, still need to investigate how big Is the object and even a golden One can sounds almost like a coin😑. So there's more to say. If You Need to be fast, You can rely in a better id separation with a dedicated number. I don't have time to hear and distinguish a full tone range among bubbles, mixed tone's shades and every hole means less time to leave the area. My 2 cents... No, I don't dig It😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 More range is better, but in real life hunting not as much as people think. A big stink always gets raised over this on paper, usually before people even use a detector, as was the case with Equinox, but in actual detecting people find it’s not that big a deal. The ground introduces too many variables, and fine divisions in air tests simply disappear in the soil. Even with a compressed range, you’d better be digging a numeric range to get any particular coin, like a nickel for instance. Picking one number means missed nickels. That’s even worse with more range, not better. More range also tends to lead to less stability, jumpier numbers. So while I personally will take more numeric range as a preference, I doubt it has much to do at the end of the day with my recovery rate. If I’m after silver, I’ll be digging all targets from below a copper penny reading and higher, not trying to tell a copper penny from a silver dime. My old CZ worked a treat with just seven possible target bins, and you want to talk target stability… Target ID Range vs Target ID Stability 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Another way to look at this is tones. Most people do not like full tones, but prefer 2, 3, 5, or 7 tones. This is just creating a few large audio bins (not unlike the CZ above), and if you hunt by ear, it hardly matters how many numbers there are, either more or fewer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggindaboot Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 I prefer a wider range of vdi on dirt. On the beach, I like the compressed scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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