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I casually found this video and the results are actually confusing me...A lot🤐.

Nothing to say for most of the programs but look what a difference on gold signals  when in diving/beach and beach sens 😬.

Not to mention the higher vdi reading (twice) when in mono 17Khz...

Please, can someone explain what I'm seeing?

 

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This is a gold 5.6 grain nugget Steve sent me...Sorry about the emi I just went outside after you made this post will test further later. 

 

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37 minutes ago, calabash digger said:

This is a gold 5.6 grain nugget Steve sent me

I was almost shocked especially cause all we've seen impressive results on Your D2🙄.

I left a comment to the guy, asking for salt sens and reactivity values. Maybe Just the fact of using the diving/beach/b.sens programs on the wrong ground can cause that result...

It Is however weird, cause all of the other programs were perfect by sound and with a steady reading too.

I'm a bit disappointed for the mono too🤐.

I can't wait to manually find a window among 17 and 28 Khz without falsing in saltwater, but I think there's no salt filter in mono to do the magic.

By the way, on that same nugget, why not to try with the little 9"😝🙏

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5 hours ago, Skullgolddiver said:

I was almost shocked especially cause all we've seen impressive results on Your D2🙄.

I left a comment to the guy, asking for salt sens and reactivity values. Maybe Just the fact of using the diving/beach/b.sens programs on the wrong ground can cause that result...

It Is however weird, cause all of the other programs were perfect by sound and with a steady reading too.

I'm a bit disappointed for the mono too🤐.

I can't wait to manually find a window among 17 and 28 Khz without falsing in saltwater, but I think there's no salt filter in mono to do the magic.

By the way, on that same nugget, why not to try with the little 9"😝🙏

NOTHING is wrong with the Beach modes.........

First, the ground was moderately mineralized from looking at the mineralization meter in the lower left of the screen.

Second the gentleman was swinging fairly haphazardly with lots of arc on the end of each swing and he often almost missed the targets.

So, there is nothing wrong with the Beach programs that I can see. 

10. Diving is maxed at 14 kHz, so not the best frequency for small gold under 1 gram depending on shape. This by the way, is where at least on paper, the Excal maxed at 26 kHz has the advantage on Deus 2 and its 14 kHz Diving program. Otherwise.......Deus 2 all day for most gold jewelry using Beach or Beach Sensitive.

11. Beach is maxed at 24 kHz. Definitely more sensitive than Diving at 14 kHz but still won't hit hard on sub gram sized gold.

12. Beach Sensitive is maxed at 40kHz. That will hit most small gold jewelry from 1 gram down to .1 gram that is near the surface and will scream on 1 gram and up gold jewelry.

The other modes 1. Gen, 2. Sens, 3. Sens FT, 4.  Fast, 8. Gold are all maxed at 40 kHz and will have no problem on .1 and bigger gold jewelry. Only the Gold mode hit that .05 piece really well.....VCO audio helped there. 9. Relic is maxed at 24 kHz which is okay. It will scream on small gold coins or 1 gram and up jewelry at relic sites.

5. Park is maxed at 24 kHz plus it has a default notch from 23 to 36.....right in the small gold range along with Bottle Cap reject set at 5 which may also mask small gold targets. So, default Park for small gold jewelry is highly iffy unless some settings are changed.

6. Deep High Conductor is maxed at 14 kHz.....not for gold basically

7. Deus Mono default at 17 kHz.  Not the greatest small gold frequency. Deus Mono is not using XP's FMF technology. It is a throwback, holdover from Deus 1. Target IDs may up or down average a bit depending on selected frequency, on target size, conductivity and the level of ground mineralization. I will not be using that mode very much......

So, in my opinion the Deus 2 in its default settings performed about as expected on different sized gold targets laying on mineralized ground. For the modes that are optimized for gold (40kHz), the target IDs were consistent and so were the audio responses for each target.

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I look forward to hearing how people go finding nuggets with it once some forum members get their hands on it.  Not sure if I should be excited or not after watching those videos, probably not.

Some of the audio on it sounds very familiar.

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The short video Calabash made proves that Deus 2 even in its FMF 14 kHz diving mode and with salt sensitivity settings above 0, will actually hit a .35 gram nugget in an air test in bad EMI. Not bad at all. Great depth....not particularly but air testing SMFs for depth is kind of pointless.  In EMI like that, it is impossible to really get a good idea of what Deus 2 on a .35 gram nugget in Gold Field or its other 40 kHz programs without threshold/reactivity adjustments will do. Add in iron mineralization..........who knows. EMI just cuts high gain SMF tech detectors like the Deus 2 and Equinox off at the knees sometimes when it is really bad.

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A little update on the subject and......The software....

Staying to the translation, the guy said that the software in use was the factory preset 0.5.

He will repeat the test with the 0.6 version.

Hopefully this is only a fear for me....for the 5th machine that i hope to be the unbeatable choice.Finally.

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On 1/19/2022 at 9:03 AM, Jeff McClendon said:

The short video Calabash made proves that Deus 2 even in its FMF 14 kHz diving mode and with salt sensitivity settings above 0, will actually hit a .35 gram nugget in an air test in bad EMI. Not bad at all. Great depth....not particularly but air testing SMFs for depth is kind of pointless.  In EMI like that, it is impossible to really get a good idea of what Deus 2 on a .35 gram nugget in Gold Field or its other 40 kHz programs without threshold/reactivity adjustments will do. Add in iron mineralization..........who knows. EMI just cuts high gain SMF tech detectors like the Deus 2 and Equinox off at the knees sometimes when it is really bad.

Deus 1 and probably Deus 2 has some sort of automatic EMI mitigation. I stumbled upon this when comparing depth in a parc vs a Fisher F75. The Fisher was EMI falsing like mad, needed to be turned down in sensitivity to be able to hunt. The Deus 1 continued to function fairly quietly at the preset sensitivity.

So from that point forward, I was fully aware that on a Deus platform. Full throttle ahead isn’t absolute, but rather full throttle as per the situation at hand.

Not to worry though,... my first test-drive with the Deus 2 was in a very low EMI area. A detector I know very well was able to run at max sensitivity previously. And I had to drop sensitivity otherwise I was digging finger nail clippings on the Deus 2.

In my basement the Deus 2 is as quiet as a mouse. Wifi routers, electricals, wireless everything and then some. It still is able to provide a repeatable signal on a test target.

Therefor I presume that sensitivity on the Deus 2 isn’t absolute, but relative. And results are awesome, but relative as well. An easy going design which will astonish and confuse at the same time.

But the name says it all, it’s a Deus and has devine powers we mere mortals can only presume to understand 🙂

 

 

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