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Official word is "upcoming weeks" which makes it seem imminent, when in fact there are 52 upcoming weeks in a year. Plan could be to roll out next week, and then whole thing come to a screeching stop over some last minute issue. My advice is believe them when you see them, but if you want to be optimistic, they seem to think they will be shipping in August sometime. Being realistic I'd say more like September availability, but whatever.

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2 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Official word is "upcoming weeks" which makes it seem imminent, when in fact there are 52 upcoming weeks in a year.

Depends how many politicians they have on staff LOL... thanks Steve... I have some calls into dealers but no one seems to know so as they say in the military "Prepare to Stand By"

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Normal and Large mode both are described as timings to use in "highly mineralized soil" in the manual. Sounds like they are some flavor of the difficult timing? Normal doesn't appear to mean what Minelab defines Normal as.

Fine seems to mean the opposite to Garrett as it means to Minelab too. I think Garrett's definition is more intuitive and is more like what many people who ran in Fine Gold back in the day thought it should be doing, but it did the opposite. 

The Axiom timings seem to combine both the gold and ground modes into one mode. 

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48 minutes ago, jasong said:

Normal and Large mode both are described as timings to use in "highly mineralized soil" in the manual. Sounds like they are some flavor of the difficult timing? Normal doesn't appear to mean what Minelab defines Normal as.

Fine seems to mean the opposite to Garrett as it means to Minelab too. I think Garrett's definition is more intuitive and is more like what many people who ran in Fine Gold back in the day thought it should be doing, but it did the opposite. 

The Axiom timings seem to combine both the gold and ground modes into one mode. 

More accurate names might be "Short Pulse Delay" Medium Pulse Delay" and "Long Pulse Delay", and the difference is not dramatic between the settings, with the exception of Salt, where the pulse delay is long enough to eliminate a saltwater return signal. So maybe call Salt "Super Long Pulse Delay." Eliminating a saltwater signal will also eliminate the smallest gold signals. This is an issue with the physics involved when using conductivity / eddy current retention as the basis of your detecting technology.

Small Gold Signals and Salt Settings

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I wonder in what category the Axiom would fall, if it were a ML detector. Gold detector or treasure detector? It appears to be a PI treasure detector with gold capabilities, so perhaps something like a supercharged PI-Nox?

GC

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Just now, Steve Herschbach said:

More accurate names might be "Short Pulse Delay" Medium Pulse Delay" and "Long Pulse Delay", and the difference is not dramatic between the setting with the exception of Salt, where the pulse delay is long enough to eliminate a saltwater return signal. So maybe call Salt "Super long Pulse Delay." Eliminating a saltwater signal will also eliminate the smallest gold signals. This is an issue with the physics involved when using conductivity / eddy current retention as the basis of your detecting technology.

Small Gold Signals and Salt Settings

Sounds like it opens the door to potentially use the old GPX trick with Salt Coarse in non-salt ground on the Axiom with Salt when detecting flats scattered with a ton of tiny bits of wire or tin slaw buried like 0-1" deep. A way to do "size discrim" essentially.

Is it pretty much just the pulse delay changing, such that larger target depths are mostly unaffected as long as it's used in mild ground?

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11 minutes ago, Gold Catcher said:

I wonder in what category the Axiom would fall, if it were a ML detector. Gold detector or treasure detector? It appears to be a PI treasure detector with gold capabilities, so perhaps something like a supercharged PI-Nox?

GC

It's a gold nugget detector. You might try and use it for other stuff, with varying results, no promises.

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15 minutes ago, jasong said:

Is it pretty much just the pulse delay changing, such that larger target depths are mostly unaffected as long as it's used in mild ground?

I am just giving the most simplistic, understandable answer possible. I have no inside information of what exactly each mode is doing. They could be very simple or very complex on the processing side. Might be best if I say nothing at all - just trying to be helpful. No doubt my offhand comments will be seized on as "proof" as to why the Axiom can't be as good as some other detector with "superior" processing.

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Thanks, Steve. That begs the question if the Axiom would not be a better choice than the 6000 for areas with high mineralization (like most of CA). One option would be to trade in the 6 k, get the Axiom, and then safe the money for the next GPZ. Difficult choices.....

GC

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3 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

IMight be best if I say nothing at all - just trying to be helpful. No doubt my offhand comments will be seized on as "proof" as to why the Axiom can't be as good as some other detector with "superior" processing.

The North Eugene's called, and they made cookies (nuggets)... you keep saying you're going to go enjoy life..... (and bring us back more Axiom reports). 🙂

I took some NICE stuff out of this area, it's an area that Dave Turin was sampling (note, he's LONG gone, no secrets being disclosed here) when I was up there last time, this particular lat/long (the one I tagged as Dave's site) is private land owned by the mine just to the west but this area would be AWESOME with your Axiom Steve... but shhhh dont' tell anyone I told you these lat/longs ok? Within that red square and lat/longs in the second screen shot, I pulled a 3/4 ouncer (and a few multi grammers with my 5k.. but shhhhhh (looking around, don't tell anyone...)

Go clean it up with Ax..

PS: How's that for your membership fee's paying for themselves kiddies. 🙂

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