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Let’s Bombard Minelab With Suggestions For GPX 6000 Update


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Thing that confuses me is that Garrett coulda been capturing some market share now over here right now, the 6000 has problems. I'm pretty surprised we can't even get an ETA on the Axiom shipping. Been almost 3 weeks since announcement. 

It's cheaper here, and it looks to run a lot quieter. They could take some ML customers away while the 6000 is ailing over here with issues.

I was chomping at the bit to get a working Axiom in my hands and ditch the 6000 finally. But, I had to finally go buy a Coiltek though, so I can keep working this season. And its like - ok, now I just spent another $400 on the 6000, and if it'll actually work now, then do I even have as much reason to buy an Axiom? I guess it depends how much the aftermarket coil helps.

Scratching my head why we couldn't have even gotten an ETA on shipment. Can't sit and wait forever when there is work to get done now and the clock is ticking before snow ends the season. Now it looks like I'll probably stick with big blue if this coil fixes things, seems pointless to sell a working detector, take a $1900 loss, just to get one that is more or less equivalent.

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15 minutes ago, jasong said:

Thing that confuses me is that Garrett could be capturing some market share now over here. I'm pretty surprised we can't even get an ETA on the Axiom shipping.

It's funny, I was laying in bed last night wondering to myself who'd be the first person to post frustration about our waiting for this to get released/shipped... and ironically, it's the same person who I know has been equally as frustrated with their 6000 as I was with mine.

I can say this much.... I don't think they care about losing out to a few dozen 6000 sales, damaging their reputation with false promises isn't worth the risk. Even with them not confirming ETA (they may find an issue in testing that could change that date) we know it's out there, I've already paid for mine so I'm committed and I don't care if it doesn't ship till Xmas as long as what we have seen is what we get, unlike another detector both you and I have owned that seemed to have been shipped to market far too early with far too little testing....

Does that help with the frustration Jason? 😉

Welcome to Garrett, where we do it right, not just fast!!!!!

PS: Snow never ends 'our' season Jason, you're just in the wrong place... my "Don't walk away Renee" nugget was found within a couple of days of Xmas day. 

https://www.prospectingaustralia.com/threads/dont-walk-away-renee-detect-even-if-not-detecting.32966/

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I'm glad there is some competition when it comes to pulse detector.  but I really don't think it will shake a company like Minelab even if its new detector has so many problems.  An easy solution that I would see to take away that niche from Garrett is to put a 5000 in the 6000 package, call it 5000+ and put a price of 3000 dollars.  problem solved.  Minelab has the resources to do that

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12 minutes ago, Jennifer said:

I can say this much.... we know it's out there, I've already paid for mine so I'm committed and I don't care if it doesn't ship till Xmas as long as what we have seen is what we get, unlike another detector both you and I have owned that seemed to be shipped to market far too early with far too little testing....

Great but it doesn't snow where you detect in any really serious way. We'll start getting snowstorms here next month that could end the season in some places.

I'm all for bringing a properly tested detector to the market - my point is that the 6000 is ailing right now. It might not last. And it looks like coils may fix it, and if they do, it's going to mean less potential Axiom customers. So I'm not sure why Garrett wouldn't try to take advantage of that while they can. I would assume they would have liked to get it into the hands of people like myself that post frequently and detect often, already excited about the Axiom, rather than a person like me posting frequently about the 6000 instead.

It's not really frustration, it's just...missed opportunity seems like to me. I couldn't care less either way, as long as I have a detector that just works where I need it to work.

 

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7 minutes ago, jasong said:

Great but it doesn't snow where you detect in any really serious way. We'll start getting snowstorms here next month that could end the season in some places.

I hear ya, I'm from mid BC, Canada, I know all about short seasons for sure.... but you're probably one of less than 50 hard core gold prospectors that detect in areas where snow impacts that season and again, they're not going to go to market early at risk of releasing another 6k (LOL) to appease a smaller population.

Move down buddy, Arizona would love to have you.. just keep 100 miles from me ok please. I've seen you suck nuggets out of the ground and I can't afford a "Knudsen Bowl" to get what you leave behind. LOL

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Problem is in Arizona there isn't as much exploration to do, it's more patch cleaning. 

I use the GPZ far more than the 6000 in Arizona unless I'm trying to quickly cover lots of ground. So I'd also use the GPZ more than Axiom based on the reports I've read regarding performance. 

The strengths of the Axiom and 6000 aren't in places like Gold Basin. Quartzsite, or any old common goldfields if you ask me, it's in a light, quick detector to explore new places efficiently. That's also the future of gold detecting in the US IMO too, and I'm one of the people that is going to demonstrate that.

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I guess you're setting a good example for me Jason, it's what I should be using my 6000 for, exploration, covering ground and exploring then bring in the big guns with the 7000 to find the gold once the first ones been uncovered with the 6000.   I've been a bit lost why I'd use the 6000 over my 7000 and your example there is where it would be very beneficial.  I need to get out there in the hills just roaming hoping to find something with it, some new ground.

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30 minutes ago, phrunt said:

I guess you're setting a good example for me Jason, it's what I should be using my 6000 for, exploration, covering ground and exploring then bring in the big guns with the 7000 to find the gold once the first ones been uncovered with the 6000.   I've been a bit lost why I'd use the 6000 over my 7000 and your example there is where it would be very beneficial.  I need to get out there in the hills just roaming hoping to find something with it, some new ground.

Jason said to me years ago, don't waste time on super slow and only cover a few feet when you can move, cover ground and find a virgin patch.... best advice ever... we need to balance the ROI of looking for every little signal to the possible loss of a multi nugget patch we never get to cus we run out of daylight. 

Ironically, @Gerry in Idaho just posted EXACTLY why we want to cover ground and find that patch.

https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/19592-some-nice-gpz-7000-gold-for-the-us/

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Well, there is a time for super slow. And a time for fast and ground coverage.

To learn and start, everyone should go slow in known patches I think. To develop pattern recognition. But as you learn where nuggets are, and where they aren't, you develop more pattern recognition and can speed up to bypass the chaff and concentrate on harvesting the good wheat. And in the end it pays better to spend time finding new patches than trying everything in the book to squeeze another drop of juice from a dry lemon in old patches. Most old goldfields are dry lemons these days.

1 single virgin patch produces more than a lot of people have found detecting in a decade in old beat up patches sometimes. It's a matter of maximizing yield, which is factoring in both production and time spent to make that production.

These new lightweight detectors like the 6000 and Axiom seem custom built for just this kind of exploration to me.

 

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Thanks, I was a bit lost as to why I got the 14x9" too now I have a use for it along with the 6000, exciting 🙂 Bring on summer.

 

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