New Minelab Manticore

[longbow62]

The ML100 looks like a better made and more expensive pair of headphones. My ML80's have been thru it and look it. Never had any issues with them though.

[dsb]

Think i lost the original headphone due to no tether.  Left them on the bumper while putting the 800 in the truck, not used to no cord is my excuse.

[Cal_Cobra]

6 hours ago, rled2005 said:

Looks like a lot of fiddling with the screen and settings when you could spend more time hunting. What more will you find over what you’ll find with your Equinox?

That's the $1599 question here.

[phrunt]

I absolutely can't wait for this detector, a refined Nox, with better quality, even if the performance doesn't exceed the Nox by much at least it's a good build quality that I shouldn't need to buy a heap of aftermarket parts for, my Nox is almost not a Nox anymore, only it's control pod 🙂  I've probably spent as much on my Nox as I will the Mandicore by the time I had all the aftermarket gear for the Nox to make it how I like it.

I shouldn't have to worry about it leaking or the coil ears breaking, sounds good to me.   I love my Nox, this is it's successor so I can only like it even more.

I'm all in with all the coils for it as soon as I can get it.

[EL NINO77]

1 hour ago, Cal_Cobra said:

That's the $1599 question here.

will Manticore be better than Equinox and other other detectors.... Yes, that's really a question for 1950 euros....

  ...since several of my colleagues will have Manticore from the first shipment, I will see how Manticore can perform in comparative tests and also in Detection..

my colleague Mike from Top Digin.. had the opportunity to test and briefly detect Manticore at a presentation event in the Czech Republic.. so he ordered it..

 

[Cal_Cobra]

12 hours ago, EL NINO77 said:

will Manticore be better than Equinox and other other detectors.... Yes, that's really a question for 1950 euros....

  ...since several of my colleagues will have Manticore from the first shipment, I will see how Manticore can perform in comparative tests and also in Detection..

my colleague Mike from Top Digin.. had the opportunity to test and briefly detect Manticore at a presentation event in the Czech Republic.. so he ordered it..

 

I'd love to detect in the Czech Republic.  I've spent a lot of time there, but regrettably never took a detector there with me. One time there, I drove to a glass museum inside a castle out in the countryside.  Beautiful area.  Once I arrived at the small village where the castle was located the castle immediately came into view as the prominent feature of the village.  The street to the castle, the main promenade if you will, lead to the front doors of the medieval castle on the other side of the bridged moat, had been completely ripped out for hundreds of feet and piled up on the sides.  I could see three different layers of cobblestone.  I so wished I'd brought my detector for that, a medieval sidewalk tear out, ugh.

[strick]

14 hours ago, rled2005 said:

Looks like a lot of fiddling with the screen and settings when you could spend more time hunting. What more will you find over what you’ll find with your Equinox?

A lot because I wont be using the Nox that much any more. 🤣 

Seriously with the enhanced target ID screen those that have ran the Etrac and the CTX previously realize the value of this...what those machines lacked...speed, ergonomics and light weight are now in the new machine...I'm on the list as well..

strick

[GB_Amateur]

I'm a bit surprised that no one has pointed out a (IMO) questionable statement made in Rob's video (thread link page here).  Well, OK, maybe everyone is tired of watching sales videos.  Rob's (26 minutes) has some cut-and-paste of the live blog (62 minute video) with Minelab America's rep Debbie.  I can't bring myself to watch that longer one (but I've watched hours of videos with one of the Manticore and Equinox engineers -- Mark Lawrie).  Rob asked her some questions in the Myers' Treasure shop that I don't think made the long video.  One of them was about the robustness of the new pod to water ingress.  (Go to 15:45 in the first video posted on page 70 of this thread -- linked above.  What I quote below was stated around 16:45 of the video, but it's worth starting a minute earlier to get the full feel for what transpired in the shop.)

Debbie said "...this is not to diminish that there was (sic) leakage problems with the Equinox, but overall for the amount we made and sold it was less than point zero one percent."  Rob then tried to get her to say how many were sold but she was consistent with ML policy of not revealing those kinds of sales figures.  However, let's play with the numbers:

0.01% is 0.0001.  For every million sold (multiply 0.0001 times 1,000,000), that corresponds to 100 units.  Let's give her (them?) the benefit of the doubt that this is based on the number of detectors returned for warranty repair/replacement.  Does that seem consistent with the failure rate we've heard about?

[Jeff McClendon]

I have been able to jump on the new release bandwagon for several recent releases thanks to being retired, having a little extra money and lots of time. To say that my experience has been totally positive with all of these newly released detectors would be dishonest. In fact, it has been very much a mixed bag. Believe or not the marketing/Youtube influencer hype at your own peril. I wish it wasn't this way but it's 2022/23

Equinox absolutely changed the world of detecting for me due to where and what I hunt even though I wish the target ID scale had more room in the low to mid conductor area. I also wish it had a "Pitch Tone" option in its Park and Field modes for modern Canadian coins and other steel core coins/targets. I have had no issues with any Equinox I have owned aside from wobbly shafts that were replaced with carbon fiber. So the Equinox blew me away as an incredible detector.

Garrett ACE Apex.....just didn't cut it as an intermediate detector and both of the ones I owned had major problems right out of the box and spent a lot of time traveling from Colorado to Texas and back.

Simplex was a fantastic detector for a beginner or casual users but its ability to handle high iron mineralization (being single frequency why should it????) left it sitting in the corner.

Vanquish models in spite of being simultaneous multi frequency couldn't handle high iron mineralization either and had the same ID scale/tone limitations as the Equinox.......also sat in the corner.

Minelab GPX 6000.....great detector, super sensitive......but way too limited as a PI......basically it is having an unofficial recall. For me, all Minelab had to do was release an 11" or smaller DD coil for EMI mitigation and I would still own it...... a PI with four automatic coil type Mono/DD sensing search modes (2 DD coil modes) and only one 14" DD coil released versus 8 Mono coils released/in production......No small DD coil on any horizon I can see. Lost an owner/customer.

XP Deus 2......fantastic lightweight simultaneous multi frequency detector that thankfully is still in its Beta software stage. Hopefully it will actually have a functioning small nugget gold prospecting mode some day. It is one killer coin/jewerly shooter in modern aluminum trash and since it's a Deus, it already excels in iron trash. When an official or aftermarket surf/dive shaft is released that can route the antenna wire more securely, this detector will also be even better.

Nokta Legend..... this detector, besides the Equinox is the only newly released detector that has really surprised me in a good way. It performs way better than I expected where I detect on the targets I most often hunt. It actually has the two improvements that I wanted on the Equinox= expanded target IDs in the low to mid conductor range and Pitch Tones for Park, Field and Beach. Plus it has several more user profile slots, collapsible carbon fiber shafts, robust coil ears, doesn't leak so far........ Sure there have been some software, chip, speaker and coil problems that have been quickly addressed (well quick for a pandemic, chip, labor shortage/ supply chain hampered, industry)  If a person off the street that had some beginner level experience with basic detectors asked me to recommend a good quality, intermediate level, affordable, waterproof SMF, right now I would recommend the Legend over the Equinox every time. Well done Nokta!!!

Manticore.....the Equinox is such a good detector that the Manticore will have to be substantially better in performance and actually (proven by users not hypers) have a better shaft system, won't leak, coil ears won't break, etc..........No proof of any of that yet so like others, I am sitting this one out.

[Jeff McClendon]

22 minutes ago, GB_Amateur said:

I'm a bit surprised that no one has pointed out a (IMO) questionable statement made in Rob's video (thread link page here).  Well, OK, maybe everyone is tired of watching sales videos.  Rob's (26 minutes) has some cut-and-paste of the live blog (62 minute video) with Minelab America's rep Debbie.  I can't bring myself to watch that longer one (but I've watched hours of videos with one of the Manticore and Equinox engineers -- Mark Lawrie).  Rob asked her some questions in the Myers' Treasure shop that I don't think made the long video.  One of them was about the robustness of the new pod to water ingress.  (Go to 15:45 in the first video posted on page 70 of this thread -- linked above.  What I quote below was stated around 16:45 of the video, but it's worth starting a minute earlier to get the full feel for what transpired in the shop.)

Debbie said "...this is not to diminish that there was (sic) leakage problems with the Equinox, but overall for the amount we made and sold it was less than point zero one percent."  Rob then tried to get her to say how many were sold but she was consistent with ML policy of not revealing those kinds of sales figures.  However, let's play with the numbers:

0.01% is 0.0001.  For every million sold (multiply 0.0001 times 1,000,000), that corresponds to 100 units.  Let's give her (them?) the benefit of the doubt that this is based on the number of detectors returned for warranty repair/replacement.  Does that seem consistent with the failure rate we've heard about?

Just go to Gigmaster's YouTube site and read some of the comments when he has posted a video about the Equinox leaking......

The answer is NO.