What Is Expected In The Upcoming Update?

[PI-Man]

I just want to run the updater on my Mac.  What year is this? Oh I forgot.

x/y screen looked way better on the V3i.

[F350Platinum]

1 hour ago, PI-Man said:

I just want to run the updater on my Mac.  What year is this? Oh I forgot.

x/y screen looked way better on the V3i.

Haha, as a long time IT guy, when someone mentioned they couldn't do something and had an Apple computer, I used to say "Well, there's your problem"... 🤣 Couldn't resist.

Fear not, one of our intrepid users posted a solution:

You just have to run windows on it. 🙂

[relicmeister]

Just an aside, the folks that purchase the Deus 2 Master, given that you need the remote to do updates, are they out of luck in terms of updating their WS6 Master? Or borrow someone’s remote to do the updates?    I have the whole shebang so for me I’m just wondering. 

[Chase Goldman]

3 minutes ago, relicmeister said:

Just an aside, the folks that purchase the Deus 2 Master, given that you need the remote to do updates, are they out of luck in terms of updating their WS6 Master? Or borrow someone’s remote to do the updates?    I have the whole shebang so for me I’m just wondering. 

You don't need the remote to update the WS6.  Each component (remote, WS6) is updated separately by the PC updater program.

[parkgt]

One thing we can count on with the update is that it will arrive later than one hopes for..  XP will not commit to a date so they must still be working out the bugs.

[NCtoad]

8 hours ago, parkgt said:

One thing we can count on with the update is that it will arrive later than one hopes for..  XP will not commit to a date so they must still be working out the bugs.

I’m in no hurry for an update.  Version .0.71 works pretty darn good from my perspective as far as raw performance is concerned.  Plus ( like you said), I’d rather have a bug free update than to have to keep updating to fix the update.  I would much rather spend my free time detecting than updating. Lol

[Doc Bach]

3 hours ago, NCtoad said:

I’m in no hurry for an update.  Version .0.71 works pretty darn good from my perspective as far as raw performance is concerned.  Plus ( like you said), I’d rather have a bug free update than to have to keep updating to fix the update.  I would much rather spend my free time detecting than updating. Lol

Oh my,Mister Toad! So are you suggesting ,that maybe we should all be careful what we wish for?

[Chase Goldman]

2 minutes ago, Doc Bach said:

Oh my,Mister Toad! So are you suggesting ,that maybe we should all be careful what we wish for?

Absolutely, XP did botch one of the earlier updates with a loss of SW configuration/version control.  Lives were not on the line like with safety critcal sofware (think Boeing 737 Max), but that is still a big no no.  They had about 3 different versions of 0.6 in the wild with different features and bugs, were not updating the minor ver # on each release (i.e., 0.6 > 0.61 > 0.62) so they all had the same version numbers but different "born on" dates (the only way you could tell the difference but you had to take a deep dive into the "about the SW" menus on the remote to tell the difference).  In the process they broke something important from a performance standpoint (I think there was a depth hit on certain modes or something) and there was no way to roll back.  I had unwittingly updated to get one of the desired features, thinking I would be able to roll back if necessary and got screwed just before a week-long digging trip.  Borrowed someone else's D2 for the trip while XP was sorting it out.  I think they "re-learned" this lesson from some Deus 1 false starts, addressed the causes, and are proceeding cautiously as a result.

Point being, that this upcoming release will likely be a "final" production release (i.e., non-Beta ver 1.X), will likely have several new (though likely minor) enhancements and bug fixes and I really want them to do thorough regression testing to make sure they don't break stuff that is presently working well.

Gary Black popped on this thread earlier and basically confirmed it's coming but obviously could not give us a precise release window because testing always comes with uncertainty as bugs are uncovered, addressed and re-tested.  It's an arduous, iterative and often painful process that is not appreciated by those who have not experienced it.

Would like to have it sooner rather than later myself, but definitely not before it's fully baked.  

In the mean time, it's not holding me back in the least...

 

[Doc Bach]

1 hour ago, Chase Goldman said:

Absolutely, XP did botch one of the earlier updates with a loss of SW configuration/version control.  Lives were not on the line like with safety critcal sofware (think Boeing 737 Max), but that is still a big no no.  They had about 3 different versions of 0.6 in the wild with different features and bugs, were not updating the minor ver # on each release (i.e., 0.6 > 0.61 > 0.62) so they all had the same version numbers but different "born on" dates (the only way you could tell the difference but you had to take a deep dive into the "about the SW" menus on the remote to tell the difference).  In the process they broke something important from a performance standpoint (I think there was a depth hit on certain modes or something) and there was no way to roll back.  I had unwittingly updated to get one of the desired features, thinking I would be able to roll back if necessary and got screwed just before a week-long digging trip.  Borrowed someone else's D2 for the trip while XP was sorting it out.  I think they "re-learned" this lesson from some Deus 1 false starts, addressed the causes, and are proceeding cautiously as a result.

Point being, that this upcoming release will likely be a "final" production release (i.e., non-Beta ver 1.X), will likely have several new (though likely minor) enhancements and bug fixes and I really want them to do thorough regression testing to make sure they don't break stuff that is presently working well.

Gary Black popped on this thread earlier and basically confirmed it's coming but obviously could not give us a precise release window because testing always comes with uncertainty as bugs are uncovered, addressed and re-tested.  It's an arduous, iterative and often painful process that is not appreciated by those who have not experienced it.

Would like to have it sooner rather than later myself, but definitely not before it's fully baked.  

In the mean time, it's not holding me back in the least...

 

Good information Chase. I bought my D1 after the completed final version, and I still use it on occasion with the two H F coils, and would. never part with it. 

[Jeff McClendon]

1 hour ago, Doc Bach said:

Good information Chase. I bought my D1 after the completed final version, and I still use it on occasion with the two H F coils, and would. never part with it. 

That is what I said too. After getting a Deus 2.........bye bye Deus 1.

I look forward to a time when I can look at my Deus 2 and seriously consider taking it to just about any detecting situation. 

Until the update possibly solves a couple of issues.......I can't do that yet.