Rick N. MI Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, abenson said: My rule for dig, no dig on a target is-If I can turn on a target at least 30 degrees and still have it hang in there I will dig it. If it is a flat out one way signal I'm leaving it. I maybe leaving stuff behind but past experience has been 95% of the targets you can't turn on at all are iron. I do it that way too. When I was using a CZ5 and got a one way hit only, I would pinpoint it and if it was right on, I would dig it. If the pinpoint moved no dig. I got a few IH's doing that. I don't think that would work with the newer Minelabs because they are hot on the edge of the coils. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Tn Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, palzynski said: Personally I prefer detectors that simply dont produce those false signals so that I dont have to turn 90° every minute to get rid of them ... A few brands like Teknetics , Tesoro or XP do this job very well ... No, they ALL do it to some degree. I've had em all. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff McClendon Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, Daniel Tn said: No, they ALL do it to some degree. I've had em all. As an example, go back and look at the Detector Comparison videos I posted on this site by Carter Pennington using Deus 2 and his friend using the Manticore. There is no agenda in those videos. Unfortunately they are not using the external speaker audio. But, when both detectors investigate what turn out to be ferrous targets, Deus 2 is throwing up non-ferrous target IDs and as Carter says…. “blips” or falses. First iron target in his first video is at the 14:30 mark. It’s hard to see but that target has IDs from 61 to 86 when I can see the Deus 2 display. It is all about the narrative for the agenda driven videos. I can easily setup a video scenario that will make Deus 2 false big time. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D&P-OR Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 3 hours ago, Jeff McClendon said: Why Is It Hitting High Tones On Small Iron In Calabash's Hunt? Because Calabash is using it. Right!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palzynski Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 3 hours ago, Jeff McClendon said: As an example, go back and look at the Detector Comparison videos I posted on this site by Carter Pennington using Deus 2 and his friend using the Manticore. There is no agenda in those videos. Unfortunately they are not using the external speaker audio.... Good video but I hope that someone will have the ( good ) idea to do a Mcore vs D2 comparison vid using the external speakers . Basically it is not easy to assess a detector without hearing its audio ... 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff McClendon Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Here is the video that Rick referenced done by Calabash. For my ears, this video sounds like typical USA iron trashed site hunting whether I'm using a Legend, Minelab Equinox 800, Minelab Equinox 900 or Deus 2. Don't have a Manticore. It mostly refutes a technique recommended by Neal (Neil?) Jones and all of us that turn 90 degrees. I was joking earlier in my first post about the reason why the Manticore was falsing. It's not Calabash's fault. Every detector will false at sites like the one where he is detecting. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT Dave Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 In the few hours I have on the Manticore so far, I'm finding it pretty much exactly like the Nox as far as iron falseing. Yes, it does it, no it doesn't fool me very often. I actually haven't dug a "surprise" iron target yet with the Manticore. But it's early, very, very early for me. I will dig surprise iron with it, lots of times, I'm sure of it. But, so what? I feel like if I'm not digging some surprise iron in certain sites, I'm missing good stuff. And as someone as interested in the history of the sites I search as much as I am interested in silver dimes, not all of those iron surprises are bad. I actually dig a good bit of iron on purpose, on some sites. - Dave 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff McClendon Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, palzynski said: Good video but I hope that someone will have the ( good ) idea to do a Mcore vs D2 comparison vid using the external speakers . Basically it is not easy to assess a detector without hearing its audio ... 🙂 Here is a short video by Calabash using Deus 2 at the same site. He is using a form of Deus 2 Fast with Pitch tone audio so higher pitches are non ferrous or falsing. The lower, harder to hear grunts are iron audio responses. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishersari Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 20 hours ago, Daniel Tn said: back the sensitivity down and quit trying to force good targets out of it. If you dig little one way chirps and blips, you'll be digging a lot of iron. For iron sites my sensitivity is 22 with recovery speed of 5-6. 25-29 sensitivity with recovery speed of 3-4 outside iron. On equinox I usually ran sensitivity at 22, recovery of 6 with Fe = 2 on iron sites. I did force 'good targets" out and I also dig blips for now.. still cant let it go 😁. Its not only the iron falsing pegged at 99. The falsing also linger at mid conductor scale where high value coin ID located. . This coin ID at 55 and retrieved at iron site. Dug around 6 inches deep. The manticore has more 'pixel' than the equinox in terms of giving out information's especially at iron site. Maybe it talk the same language like the equinox but in different accent.. lol 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palzynski Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 13 hours ago, Jeff McClendon said: Here is the video that Rick referenced done by Calabash. For my ears, this video sounds like typical USA iron trashed site hunting whether I'm using a Legend, Minelab Equinox 800, Minelab Equinox 900 or Deus 2. Don't have a Manticore. Thanks for the video Jeff . A very good testing area with high iron trash ... However Calabash uses the Mcore with the horseshoe ON , and I never do that with my detectors because it is far too noisy for me with all these constant ferrous low tones . I wonder how he can detect hearing this symphonic orchestra ... 🙂 I largely prefer silent audios then always with the horseshoe OFF , but perhaps it is a matter of personal preference ... Then difficult for me to conclude anything about the Mcore falsing on irons from this video . I will try to get an Mcore so that I can do my own tests , this will be easier than watching videos , even if some of them can be very interesting ... Thanks to Calabash for using the detector's external speakers on his videos btw ... 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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