Hello all, new member here. I recently got a Rutus Alter 71 after using an AT Pro for the past couple yrs. After much research I chose this over the Nox 800 because I can't run with the crowd and after hearing an interview with the developer I was hooked. I wanted a change because my buddy was really cleaning up with his MX Sport and for me as a musician the AT Pro tones annoyed me, particularly the iron grunt gets tiresome.
I will say the AT has been good to but the Alter is another level and I really like it. The sweet sounds and tweakability makes me feel connected to the machine just as a really good guitar seems to become an extension of the music making not just a thing in my hands. The Alter arrived the day after having shoulder surgery which gave a couple of days with the manual and online videos before I gave in an assembled it.The next day I had it in the backyard to get familiar with the menus and such, man oh man it was comfortable to swing and well balanced.I have been out about 5 times with it looking goofy with one arm in a sling but got comfortable with it very quickly and have been hitting finds much quicker and more often.I have a learning curve ahead of me but I feel that this machine is a good platform to learn skills I have been reading about and makes those techniques accessible.
I have questions for anyone familiar with this detector-
1- any headphone recommendations? I am putting together a bluetooth setup but may get wired ones also.
2-I setup a discrimination pattern but it appears to be a global setting,can this be setup as a user program to be recalled ? Any other tips and guidance will be welcome, I really feel good about this detector.
Rutus Alter 71 metal detector
By Steve Herschbach
Man, I need to keep up. First Texas introduced the Teknetics Patriot in 2017, a direct clone of the Fisher F70. I did not notice that they quietly discontinued the Fisher F70 in 2018, because they are still list on the Fisher website as current models. That and there were enough models left in stock that you can still find some new with some dealers to this day. But they are very near sold out now. Anyway, the F70 is definitely gone but not really, because you can still get it at a lower price as the Patriot. The Fisher F5 and Fisher F4 models have also been quietly discontinued, replaced by similar Teknetics and Bounty Hunter models at lower prices. These Fisher models also can still be found new at some dealers but are almost gone.
Anyway, I updated the Metal Detector Database to reflect this oh so not late breaking news.
That leaves the Fisher F11, F22, F44, F75, F19, CZ-3D, Gold Bug, Gold Bug Pro, Gold Bug 2, 1280-X, CZ-21, and Gemini 3 as current models. Of those only the F11, F22, and F44 are relatively new models, with half the current Fisher lineup being old carry over models from the First Texas acquisition of Fisher way back in 2006.
Fisher F70 metal detector
Fisher F5 metal detector
Fisher F4 metal detector
By Ridge Runner
The Garrett Apex will be out the middle of next month but we don’t know just when the N/M Lightning will show up. We do know it should be out before the years end .
Garrett been giving us a sneak peek of the Apex . It looks with what I’d call a door knob on the face may be saying it’s maybe not totally digital.
Like so many I’m wondering if it will be multi frequency are just be able to select what frequency you prefer to run .
Garrett will have to pull out almost what I’d call a miracle to overcome the obstacle like the Nox. Now here comes Nokta/Makro with their new detector the Lightning and they know it’s got to be better if not equal to the Nox.
I see myself waiting on the Lightning but it don’t make my dream come true I can always get the Apex.
I keep forgetting a great low cost detector I don’t have and that’s the Vanquish. I already have the Simplex + and I think it should add another + with the 2.77 update.
Being my Birthday is on the 15 th of May I really don’t like cake and who knows I may be eating crow . That’s if Garrett comes out with something great and at a great price.
Garrett I truly wish you the best with the Apex.
PS I know most of you want to know why I’m using the name Lightning. It’s the name I picked and it has a great ring to my ears.haha
Garrett’s Ace line is under serious attack from the Simplex and Vanquish. Even the new Bounty Hunter (F19 paintjob) will make the Ace series seem pretty pitiful although slightly more expensive I think. Entry level detectors are now stepping into the domain of the AT Pro if not surpassing it. They need to focus on how to stay in the game as I would imagine the entry level models were their biggest sellers.
I would guess not too many people would be rushing out to buy an AT Pro at the moment. I don't know about in the USA but here a Vanquish 540 is cheaper than an Ace 400 and would walk all over it for performance.
How would the Simplex compare to the At Pro in performance and features? I'd guess not far off it.
In saying all this, I quite like my Ace 350.. a real soft spot for it. My first decent metal detector and from memory found my first silver with it in my front yard of all places, it's a depth demon in my soils with the Nel Tornado coil. If an Ace 400 came up really super cheap for sale near me, I'd not want to buy it and that says something 🙂
I'm no doubt wrong about all of this and their Ace series and AT's are selling well.