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20 hours ago, mn90403 said:

Thanks Barry.

What can we say about sections 17 and 21?  Are all of the odd sections under the same restrictions?

 

20 hours ago, Clay Diggins said:

According to the Master Title Plat those sections are part of the same land action. Without looking each section up I'd have to say the odds are high they both have the same private subsurface status as Section 19.

The Case Number for those odd sections is Nv 050293. With a little research you could know for sure.

The Master Title Plat will give you the status of each Section in that Township.

 

21 hours ago, Clay Diggins said:

The one thing that is clear is that there can be no prospecting (including metal detecting) or mining on Section 19 without the mineral owners written permission.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Getting back to the original topic subject for those computer experts, are Sections 17 and 21 private subsurface status and therefore there can be no prospecting (including metal detecting) or mining on those sections without the mineral owners written permission?

Bill

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4 hours ago, cobill said:

 

 

Inquiring minds want to know.

Getting back to the original topic subject for those computer experts, are Sections 17 and 21 private subsurface status and therefore there can be no prospecting (including metal detecting) or mining on those sections without the mineral owners written permission?

Bill

Hi Bill,

Good question.

This is correct.

On the Master Title Plat (you can get one from mylandmatters.org) it shows 17, 19 and 21 as having Restricted Minerals which means that the minerals are privately owned.

As Clay Diggins has mentioned you do need written permission from the owner to prospect/mine on these claims.

 

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Thats tough getting written permission these days. I know of a few big mining corporations that have no problem with casual use detecting on their land. Also a big timber co that I talked to, but for liability reasons they shy away from anything in writing in case someone is  injured.

 

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being a total newb I don't even own a detector yet!  but this thread concerns me.  I want to do the right thing  and not high grade  or trespass. IT seems to me just logic and common sense that if you go to the trouble of buying a claim you have  a duty  to protect it. why would you not post signs, contact info etc. 

 The desert is a pretty wide open place.  It is not like there are section lines . even on  the maps that do contain section lines the scales  usually 1:24000  are to large to pick  out  landmarks in wide flat  spaces. roads and other man made feature change over time,  so how could you tell where you are   besides an accurate GPS  which are as expensive for an accurate one as a detector.

So even doing all the research and  upfront work you could easily get mislocated in that type of terrain.  For all of those reasons it seems that  legit  claim owners should post  boundaries.

 

Am i  missing something? 

 

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Claim corners or markers are posted by law. Many people do post extra signs. Yet BLM often prohibits extra signage in some areas, and Nevada BLM seems prone to this. Further, it is extremely common for people to destroy claim markers. On the flip side old markers and signs can remain long after a claim is gone. The bottom line is legally it is your responsibility to know the status of land you set foot on. 

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  So after reading all these comments it seems the Rye Patch Area is either all claimed or privately own now and off limits to most folks.

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Really? That is quite amazing if it is true.

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Rye Patch is not "all claimed up". Very few areas are ever "all claimed up". It's a lot of research work to find them but just about every good mineralized area has spots open to prospecting and location.

Rail Dawg has done the research process at Rye Patch and located several nice claims. Land status research has been an important part of prospecting for thousands of years. It's a basic prospector's skill that thousands of people in the U.S. make their livelihood from. Those prospectors are usually formed into groups of three or four people and they are known in the industry as either Junior mining companies or Junior Exploration companies. They are an integral part of the world mining industry.

Prospecting isn't just about beeping up a few nuggets. It can be, and often is, the ticket for the little guy to make real money while learning about a mineralized area.

Don't get discouraged by the volume of claims in a popular easily accessed area. There will be unclaimed areas, often in very surprising places that everyone will tell you are "all claimed up".

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This has been a fascinating thread but does anybody have the knowledge and ability to post a simple map (Google Earth overlay?) of what areas are open to metal detecting in Rye Patch? I know that claim status changes but a snapshot would be helpful. We are all legally responsible to have this information, we all want to have this information but not even our experts seem to be able to give a crisp summary. Anybody up for the challenge?

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Some people want it handed to them on a platter.... grin

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