I was researching online about filing a gulch claim, and found this post, which I copied below. Can someone tell me if the part about 2 locators fitting in a 60 acre square is correct, or do they mean 80 acres?
"Second only to acreage the gulch claim is a real problem. Sure, it's legal to file a gulch, but BLM discourages it and for good reason. If your claim is in an area which has been surveyed you are supposed to file in accordance with the Public Land Survey System. You can file a gulch if your minerals are in a very narrow area, such as a river. Although we've seen a lot of gulch filings we haven't seen many which are valid. While people know they can file a gulch claim by using metes and bounds such as "Beginning at the confluence of Slug Gulch an Starvation Creek and extending up Starvation Creek to the North with 50 yards on each side of the center line..." The gulch claim must still be constrained to 20 acres for one locator, 40 for two and so on. However, most people don't realize the gulch claim must fit into a 40 acre square with one locator, a 60 acre square for two locators and so on. Most people run their gulch claims across multiple 40 acre squares trying to take up as much creek as they can. It is not a valid claim. You should consult the BLM manual prior to filing a gulch claim. It's a risky type of claim but if you insist on doing it do it right and read up on it."
By Clay Diggins
We've been experimenting with ways to share complex information more easily on Land Matters. Here's my latest efforts at making things clearer with a chart. It's a common question so I thought this might be a good test.
There are about 380,000 mining claims in the western mining states.
Out of those 380,000 mining claim there are about 19,236 that are declared as owned by small miners not subject to maintenance fees.
A little more than 5% of all claims are small miners.
Here's a chart that breaks down where those 19,236 small miners are by State and claim type.
Let me know if this kind of chart works for you. If it does I'll make more.
By Clay Diggins
Congratulations to our fellow miners in Oregon!
The patent for the Garden Spot placer mining claim was finally issued.
Some hard working miners now have their own 50 acres of private land in the Siskyou National Forest and BLM managed lands.
The final cert was awarded in 1990 so it only took the BLM 25 years to get that stamp to the ink pad, stamp and sign the Patent and mail it out. Our fine employees at work!
ORMC86146 is now closed and private patented mineral property. The beauty is the proud "new" owners live on Galice Creek.
Tin horn that i am i missed my sept 1 filing date. Called state blm office and those nice ladies sent me the federal registry notice. now i know;
1 you cannot be granted claim on segregated land
(But they will take your money)
2-you can still mine/prospect on "recreational" level.
3-must contact state around sept 20, 2017 to find out if withdrawl will become effective(and only a vast public opposition has any hope of stopping it).
I think i may still re-record my claim at county, perhaps this will give one legal grounds in future.
For 12.00$ its a cheap insurance/chance.
By Rick Watkins
I just was wondering if some of you have had these problems on claim sometimes. We have had lots of lead around ,thats gonna happen but when they shoot inside of small digs with shotguns and 22s they very well know what it does to ALL prospecting methods.I have found many pieces of detectable stuff
stuffed inside of small place's just too throw detectors off. Our claim has seem many of these including
the guy that digs out a deep target (assuming ) then burys the hole half way back up with big lead in hole,
laughing the whole time hes doing it. It is someone pretty knowledgeable about detecting. Last time i went too claim this had happened near one of my big nugget producing areas,it really gets adrenadrenaline flowing. I would really like to catch this guy it is just a slap in the face and he knows it .,I have been collecting a few clues maybe catch them someday. We know they have pulled gold here and they will be back. We do have a few people who watch claims occasionally but this is gonna happen.
Just wondering if any of you have had this happen and maybe some ideas. Rick