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Alright folks.

I started detecting in Dec 2010 and my first detector was the White's V3i.

A challenging detector for any person new to detecting to learn how to use.

This thread though geared to the XP Deus detector.

Obviously for folks who have some detecting experience may find some of this info less helpful, even boring.

But I do think these same folks new to Deus may find some of the info useful.

So where to start?

Don't expect to learn Deus in a day, week, or month even with heavy use.  But every outing a user will build on their foundation of skill while using.

I encourage all Deus owners to read their manuals.  Pay particular attention to proper way for hooking charging clip up to your coil.

And I do realize some of the mumbo jumbo mentioned in the manual likely sounds like a foreign language to some.

But you need to still read so you can relate easier to what I am posting.

I will be explaining some at least of this "mumbo jumbo"

This post here will not be done in one day, will take a few days at least for me to put together here.

So let's begin.

Sweeping

Deus is what I call a very good ground reactive detector.

Meaning swing speed for depth is very forgiving unlike some models.

You will see sweep technique shown in manual and even talked about on forums.

Bottom line you need to get your coil over anything you want to find.

It is not imperiative  to have a long sweep side to side for target location.

But you the user need to be paying attention to just how much of the ground you sweep over while coil is properly positioned "level" as you move around.  A user can be what I call a sweeper, or a creeper using Deus coil while searching.  Both methods will work depending on detecting site.  Beginners should go slower rather than faster when detecting.  Remember obstacles too can slow your sweeping and coil advancement. In cleaner sites good rule of thumb - a 1001 and 1002 count for a complete swing right or left and vice versa.  For area with more trash, iron or nails a slower sweep may be necessary, even creeping the coil while hunting.

Detector rod length.

No hard and fast rules here.

Bottom line adjust for your comfort.  If you don't you'll tire faster.  Users should also consider lengthening or shortening rod length on the fly as the ground one is detecting on can be below one's feet or above.  Coil height above ground is very important.  Coil needs to be close as possible without scrubbing or digging into the ground.  It is not unusual if a user does hit the ground with coil or a protruding obstacle above ground for detector to give false audio (blips, noise).

Ground mineralization

This is important to know, and the Deus gives a user a meter to check called mineralization strength meter.

Basically all one has to do is bob their coil over clean ground (no metal) around 4-5 times and watch the meter.

Anything say 3 dots displayed or less, detector performance for depth capability not affected.

Four to 6 dots, some depth capability is being compromised.

More than 7 up to full scale shown, even more depth is compromised.

Detection in general.

Question, does the Deus alert on all targets as long as they are under the coil when swept?

Short answer not likely. Why?

The Deus coil as far as alerting on targets will depend on many things besides the target just being under the coil (inside the coil's perimeter).

Things like ground minerlization, target size, target shape, target orientation, and yes even if any other nonferrous or ferrous targets that may exist in vicinity. I should also mention detector settings too can influence.  And I will talk about this later when talking about some of the actual settings.

So as you can see, actual coil progression when detecting can be very important for locating targets.  This progression, even a lot of intermediate experienced Deus users haven't fully grasped yet.

Ferrous means things like iron and nails, anything really a magnet will stick to.  Nonferrous means things like gold, silver, copper, pewter, things a magnet won't stick to.

So the Deus is engineered to give users the capability to find the nonferrous items, things we cherish more than say a nail.

Discrimination.

A persons doesn't need to know how the inner workings of Deus work here or even be s rocket scientist to be able to use the Deus and be successful.

Basically the Deus uses a range of disc where a user can set to reject ferrous and yes even nonferrous.

Usually nonferrous on Deus' meter reads above 20 all the way up to the 90s region depending on the target's conductivy. With exceptions I will discuss.

Iron will usually read 00-07.

Most of the factory programs on Deus have disc settings to discrimimate out/knock out iron and nails.

Deus meter readings as far as target identification.

This is the area using Deus that is the most difficult for folks to understand, even some prior experienced detectorists.

If a user will grasp this IMO you are well on your way to being successful with Deus.

Deus owners need to do a remedial excercise here by setting their detector up inside or out side their home (preferably outside).  You need to select the basic program and have your remote removed from rod so you can see the remote's meter reading.  This sweeping targets in the air is called air testing.  The data obtained by doing this can be be beneficial but also due to how Deus works can be misleading.

So as you sweep say a nickel or a copper or zinc penny note meter reading with the program you have chosen. Sweep the coins at various distances from coil.

Question, will a deus user see these same exact meter readings if they sweep a buried undisturbed exact same coin as noted above while detecting in the wild?  Short answer here yes and no depending.  And this is exactly the confusing part.  On shallower coins a user may indeed see the exact same or very near meter reading.  But on deeper coins likely not.  

This depth attained for a coin say to make the Deus start giving inaccurate meter readings is how much??  It depends on some things, like freq used, other detector settings, ground mineralization.

So if a person depends on Deus meter all the time, they will be fooled.

But knowing this tomfoolery Deus does to users, as long as we know we can be aware and yes, even take advantage of it.  Remember Deus is giving tone, so it is telling us something is buried.  Just what exactly we don't really know.  Now some examples here, not exact but to show how the Deus can behave as far as giving correct ID on say a coin.

Where I live I usually see about 5-6 dots in mineralization strength meter.  A dime buried I can usually expect with ideal settings to get accurate ID to about the 7.5"  depth with 9" low frequency coil.  This ID accuracy at depth can be driven by coil sized used too.

If we go out west where the minerlization index reads significantly higher we may only get good ID of buried dime at say 3" deep.

If we go to the Midwest where soil minerlization levels are even milder than my area, we may see good ID at even deeper than 8" deep.

With Deus use and monitoring minerals levels users will start to see a trend with their units for ID accuracy at depth.

Deus users avoid this thinking here.  What if my ground is twice as minerlized (or gives twice the number of dots in mineralization strength meter) as say another person's area, does this mean they can detect twice as deep? No

Back to Deus ID when a deeper target nonferrous like a coin is swept in the wild.  Gold nugget detectors, this info will apply to you too.

The Deus engineering is set so when the detector fails to garner enough info for target ID, it will many times continue to provide tone on a nonferrous object and report ID intentionally in error.  User likely to see higher meter readings displayed in the 90s region for ID or no ID at all.  Usually a target providing such erroneous yet a worthy target will sound lower audio wise not blaring like a shallower target.  

For instance even using Deus with optimum settings dialed in for a site, very possible for a deeper nickel, or a deeper dime or even a deeper pull tab to give similar/same tone and meter readings.  Most old sites with no dirt being moved around, fortunately we usually would 't expect to find a pull tab down real deep, but shallower.  So be mindful of this when hunting sites with dirt moved around with equipment.  Now I used a pull tab in talking above, this would extend to any nonferrous deeper detected junk target, and could even be a gold coin or ring.

Does size of target affect how Deus ID targets? It can.  The size and conductivity of target depending on Deus settings can affect.

A few examples to show.

A small piece of aluminum only 4" deep may not ID accurately.  And instead behave more like what I mentioned above as far as deeper coins do.  So a user could indeed see this small piece of foil or aluminum read in the 90s region or give no ID at all.

A lead buckshot at 4" deep may sound off tonally and yet give a much higher meter reading (90s region or no ID).

Now, you'll notice I have said Deus will give erroneous ID (non airtest I.D) on deeper objects. And will report in the 90s region usually or give no I.D at all.  Is this the true in all cases?   Unfortunately not.  Deus as far as ID can get caught in what I call no man's land for ID. An example.  Using 12khz with unnormalized ID selected will read 56.  So usually the nickel at shallow depths user will see 56 in the meter, and deeper will see 90s region reading, but it is possible to see some thing between the ideal reading of 56 and this 90s region meter reading. It does happen occassionally.

Use of the XY screen

How reliable is it? Depends on detecting scenario.  Beginner detectorist and first time Deus users will likely depend  on more but will wean themselves from more and more as their experience levels build.  Bottom line it is NOT a conclusive means to determine if a target is worthy of digging or not, rather just a guide.  Solo sitting targets XY screen more reliable.  Can help you with bottlecaps recognition too.

Test garden or burying targets to test using Deus.

Is this a good idea?  You bet!!!  And if a Deus owner will bury various targets at various depths, you will be able to relate first hand to a lot of what I have said so far.  Seeing is believing.  Airtest your buried targets too.  A disclaimer here.  Doing freshly buried tests using Deus, IMO if using Low Frequency Deus coils -doing is good, I caution folks using HF coils, I feel a user testing using these likely will not gather what I call as good of life like performance as seen in the wild.

I am going to continue here but in next post.  For 2 reasons, so info overload is prevented, and so folks can remember better what they have read previously.  And can make finding easier for future reference.

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Ground Balance

How important is it?

Depends on your ground minerals and detector settings as far as how depth of detection is affected.

Deus offers multiple ways to ground balance.

All methods will work, a user hunting inert super low mineralization  ground may have trouble achieving a pumping ground balance though.

Notice default level is 90 ground phase. 

Deus gives 2 readings as far as ground phase.  The detector felt ground phase and what a person has manually dialed in or the what detector has dialed in automatically if you did a pumping, or tracking ground balance.

Is one method better than the other? In some cases.

Would depend on how quick your ground changes as the coil is moved over or how much trash, junk, iron and nails are in the area you are detecting.

Open field hunting where ground is cleaner tracking ground balance will work just fine.  

No matter which method you use, one thing to keep in mind.  This is monitoring occassionally how the top number and bottom number coincide.  Small deviations here not too concerning but mediocre and large differences here could cause you to miss a target.

Users of Deus should not depend on ground phase readings to judge soil mineralizations levels, instead use you minerlization strength meter and do what I suggested ealier above.  Also of special note here, don't depend on mineralization strength meter for judging mineral levels while coil is being swept- Bob coil over clean ground!!

So what are some things a person may notice as far as their detector associated with ground balance setting?

Improper ground balance can cause detector to get noisy.

Improper ground balance can cause Deus to start making nails or iron sound like good targets.

Particular attention needs to be paid when using tracking ground balance.  Deus version 4, the tracking ground balance seems was improved but still using tracking GB in areas with loads of junk, trash, iron and nails can be problematic.  User will at times catch Deus tracking down below actual ground phase, and if you are not careful you may think you are digging a good target only to find a ferrous target like a nail.  A lot of high tones or noise likely will be heard.  Also when digging targets using tracking GB, you lay your detector down, it may take a while for it to track back to the ground.  

Beach mode uses a different scale with default level 30.

Folks can sweep in their yards and watch how the tracking works, also do a pumping ground balance too.  

What about manual GB.

It does have a purpose for advanced use of Deus, and I will discuss later.  But in case any Deus Lite users are reading here.  Since they don't have a remote hence no pumping GB or tracking GB option, how do they do a proper GB?? Btw even Deus users with remotes may find this helpful, you never know you may have a problem with remote, so if this happens you do have a work around using headphone module only.

Proper ground balance of Deus is when the Deus coil as it approaches ground when lowering to give slight feedback, NOT dead quiet.  (Not raising coil) This can be proved although not by a Deus lite user, by doing a pumping ground balance using remote.  Then listening with 0 disc as coil is lowered to ground slowly.  Then go to manual GB on remote dial GB up or down far away from actual GB phase achieved using pumping GB earlier and start listening as you manually adjust GB with remote.

Some gee whiz info here, and by me stating this I encourage folks to use a good GB when detecting with Deus. 

The higher frequency you utilize using any of the low frequency coils with Deus, the more forgiving the ground balance.  The lower the frequency used the more critical--- all pertains to depth of detection.  And overall the use of low frequency coils are more forgiving GB wise vs both of the HF coils available for Deus.

Depth of targets

Deus doesn't have a traditional depth meter instead uses a horseshoe icon and there is data supplied on XY screen as well.

I like the horseshoe meter, but it will take a Deus user some experience to get accustomed to what it is telling you.  Some things to note.  Deus horse shoe meter is split into a right and left side.  When discrimination is utilized one side will show a target as ferrous and one side will show nonferrous.  Users should test over a coin (nonferous) and a small nail.  Is this horseshoe data shown foolproof for exposing nonferrous targets, even coins? No  User can and will see the horseshoe switching sites left to right and vice versa when sweeping suspect spot.  What does this switching of sides mean?  No clear answer, could be a ferrous and nonferrous in close proximity, or could be iron falsing causing.  Deus tone and Deus behavior tonally are the primary keys in making dig decisions.

The actual depth indication is indicated by how much horse shoe shading  is shown or how less depending on how you look at it.  More shading indictates shallower target, less is deeper.  Remember this meter is geared for coin sized objects, not whole cans, even US silver dollars or silver dollar sized targets.  This shading will depend on depth, but detector settings can affect.  

A few examples.

A whole aluminum can buried at 10" deep, will likely show more shading in horseshoe vs a 8" deep quarter or even a dime.  

A bit of can slaw real small at 4" deep will likely show less shading than a copper penny at 4" deep.

So the horseshoe shading can be fooled by size of target.  Most times coinsized targets detected at or near detectable limits with Deus will show a sliver of horseshoe or possibly none at all.

I mentioned detector settings can affect as well,  I will discuss this later while talking about other settings.

A good tip here. Most times on coin sized targets if a user sees half or more horseshoe shading, actual meter reading for target ID ( conductivity of target) more believable or realistic.

Recognition of larger usually junk targets.

This being able to do is not hard, will come with Deus experience.  Bigger targets like cans, etc can usually be identified by a monster strong tone.  Users can also lift their coils say 2-4" and check their targets.  Now be careful here the mighty silver dollar may allude you. Big aluminum pieces, cans will ID on meter lots of times like higher conductive coins silver and copper.  Use of pinpoint here can help too.  I encourage users to experiment and practice over a few at least buried bigger items like cans.   Any yes even the best experienced detectorists dig a deeper can every now and then.  Better to be safe than sorry.  Some thing I failed to mention.  Using pinpoint, your Deus is not discriminating nonferrous vs ferrous, the pinpoint function sounds off on ALL metals period.  Another thing I need to say here.  Could a person be fooled using pinpoint?  What am I referring to?  Take a coin where the Deus sounds off on tonally, but before a user digs they use pinpoint and the pinpointing yields a larger than coin sized target.  It can happen.  The Deus in pinpoint may see the coin and yes maybe a bigger piece of ferrous and thus try and fool you.

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Deus chatter and EMI

The Deus is by nature a detector that makes some noise practically all the time.  And sometimes it is hard to discern this chatter (noise) from affects of emi, which is basically interference the Deus may pick up.  This can come from things like radio towers, cell tower, ham radios,  electric fences, invisible dog fences, etc.. I rate Deus above average for being able to be used and cope with environments typically called higher emi environments.  The chatter the Deus makes a user will have to get accustom to as normal ops.  One reminder here.  DON'T think you can run Deus with lower sensitivity thus slightly erasing or lowering this chatter and expect to get solid performance depth wise.  Learn to live with the chatter.  Most instances of detecting using Deus depending on the site and emi, sensitivity settings of 86-95 will be used.  A side note here. Both HF coils available for Deus, especially the elliptical HF coil seem to yield less chatter on average vs the use of the low frequency coils.

Deus tone behavior

The Deus has probably the most nuanced audio of any detector on the open market.  What does this mean exactly?  Well the Deus has the uncanny ability to tell a user usually about a targets metal quality, shape and its relative positon to ferrous materials.  Use of the backphones provided with Deus, IMO a user will not be able to take full advantage of this nuance.  A user can use back phones and make some finds though, I have.  I don't like the Ws5 headphones either, and I don't want to turn this thread into promoting anything but there are better options available for folks.  User will use the small module used with backphones to slide onto these better headphones.

I recommend Deus users to use the basic programs on Deus and try the following.  Get yourself a small piece of foil, a coin (nonferrous), a coin sized piece of can slaw.  Sweep these targets, even bury say a couple inches.  Listen to the tone, it's signature not pitch.  While sweeping walk all the way around these targets sweeping and listen.  Notice how "round" sounding the coin is.  Try a ring too.  Even other nonferrous junk targets smaller at your disposal.  Deus is a TONE detector, mastering the audio is necessary to become highly proficient using.  The meter indications are just additional tools to use and they deserve less priority for dig/no dig decisions.

What will you hear tonally when sweeping different objects?

The best way I can answer this. 

Deus will provide beepers, squeakers and leakers as far as (noise) made on various nonferrous targets.

Time for another exercise here.  Users need to get an axe head or a horseshoe and sweep using basic program.  Also sweep a gum wrapper and a nonferrous coin.  How does the axe head or horseshoe sound?  Notice how forced and honkish they both sound?  Notice how much smoother the gum wrapper and coin are?  Also watch the meter reading on the axe head or horseshoe.  See anything strange, like a 90s reading the meter?

You should and you will see this when using Deus in the field.  The tone how it sounds, how it enters and departs tonally on the edges are key.  Smaller than horseshoe and axe head ferrous items can cause this too. Nails usually won't.  A railroad spike might though.

So as far as sweeping the coil over a detectable range nonferrous object what will a user hear exactly?  Remember my talking above about how Deus ID will be inaccurate depending??  Well, the tones you will hear are tied usually to this meter reading you have set in the detector (remember factory programs are preset).  Now notice I used the word here usually.  There are exceptions.

Some examples.

Let's assume you have Deus set to give high tone on a dime.  Will a user when sweeping  buried dimes in the wild, will they hear a high tone always? No

This could be attributed to a piece of ferrous masking the dime somewhat, a colocated lower conductive nonferrous junk target even a nickel.

Yet the Deus can in fact tell you the dime (or higher conductive coin) exist sometimes. You the user have to decide what to do.

Another example you have a nickel set to give a mid tone, some gold rings likely would too.  So will all nickels give this mid tone when swept?

Yes and no, on shallower likely, and this is directly tied to what I said ealier in thread as far as Deus providing erroneous ID of targets at deeper depths.  So the nickel in fact could yield a high tone if deep enough, and you the user have the 90s region set to give a higher tone.

Colocated coins of a higher conductivity level like copper pennies, dimes, quarters, etc, if these are comingled with a junk target that possesses a lower conductive value the actual tone Deus produces could be an average (with possible corresponding ID on meter) of these different objects.  The size of the junk lower conductive target will be a major factor on how much of any the Deus Feels electronically. An average meter reading is possible too as long as the objects are not too deep.

Deus coil when it is swept, depending on what and the orientation of what is under the coil, Deus will feel conductivy level and report.  So simply speaking here, colocated ferrous, nonferrous the Deus is looking at these and a tug o war is happening.  Which one wins, is there a tie, or is the ferrous so dominant to the point Deus can only relay iron signal.  Now Deus is ranked supreme for discerning this info tonally to user,  remember TONALLY not by looking at the meter!   A lot of other detectors cannot derive the existence of some nonferrous collated with ferrous depending on orientation and size of all metal objects present under the coil at any one time.

You may hear Deus referred to as a beep and dig detector.

So it it really?

Yes the detector can be used and the beeps can be dug, and with time a user will likely make some finds.  But if you see anyone referring to Deus like this, be cautious with anything they really have to say about Deus.

Why?

Deus is far more than a beep and dig detector.  Time for another excercise.  Get a dime or penny or similar sized coin (nonferrous) and go to a clean piece of ground.  Bury the dime at various depths and continue to bury and rebury until you can't get your Deus to signal tonally.  When you determine the max detectable depth of coin, listen close to what you hear.  You shouldn't be hearing a full tone like you heard when the coin was buried shallower I. .e. 4" deep.  Yes on shallower and mid depth nonferrous object Deus is more beep and dig, but on deeper targets, no so.  I should point out here, using Deus in polluted sites with appropriate settings users will likely find many nonferrous object that are not deemed beep and dig.  These target though may not sound exactly like what you heard by doing the exercise above with burying your coin deeper an deeper while listening to Deus response at various depths.  I will talk about these later.

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Reactivity setting and Silencer setting

These 2 terms here likely scared some folks off initially from purchasing Deus in the first place.

These terms I guess were new to the detecting community hence the reason why.

So what is the Reactivty setting and what does it do exactly?

Reactivty is a speed setting on Deus for recovery setting, where the higher the number the faster Deus recovers.  Objects can be place on same plane for sweeping of mixed conductive values and a person can play with Reactivty setting and see SOME of its affects.

Notice I said some, there is more to Reactivty setting than speed.  It changes the coil footprint it seems electrically.  3-D unmasking of nonferrous below ferrous can be improved upon depending on the detecting scenario.  Also of special note here and this is very important in my book.  Reactivity setting depending on ground minerals a user can improve the Deus' performance for picking up nonferrous targets.

A good set of rules of thumb for folks to follow.

Mild ground all reactvity settings useable for detection of nonferrous objects.

Medium mineralized ground (around half meter dots wise in mineralization strength meter) Reactivty settings of 2, 2.5, 3,4, and 5 useable for detection.

In sites where mineralization strength meter is 3/4 scale and higher, Reactivty levels of 2.5, 3, 4, and 5 useable for detection.

Now, size of buried targets can drive this Reactivty setting somewhat as the ground gets higher mineralized.

So what happens if you use the wrong/improper reactive setting for your ground mineralization?

Targets (nonferrous) could sound like ferrous, broken signal, more coil position and or sweep speed sensitive for detection.

Reactive setting also drive your detectable depth with lower levels yielding more depth.  Remember though depth of detection is relative to ground mineral levels.

For example.

In mild ground I may likely be able to detect a 9" deep dime using Reactivty level 1.

But if in higher mineralized ground the same 9" deep dime I may have to use Reactivty level 2 to attain signal, or a better sounding signal.

Reactivty setting will generally drive length of signal on a detected target.

Lower Reactivty levels if useable in one's ground will yield a longer tone signature vs reactivity level set higher.  Time for another exercise.  Go to Deus basic program and adjust Reactivty to level 3.  Bury a dime or penny down as deep as the Deus will detect.  Once you find this depth, start lowering Reactivty and listen to the tone.  Tone should  sound stronger and longer as reactivity is lowered  below 3.  Also sweep the coin at various speeds with different reactivity settings.  See any difference? How slow or fast you can go to detect and get a signal,to make you investigate.  Remember here your coin is sitting in the open, no iron around or other nonferrous materials.  So Reactivty setting is definitely more than just separation speed.  The Deus' detection "eye" is affected here with changing Reactivty setting.

Fringe depth detectable targets for example using Reactivty level 4 will yield and even shorter tone when object is detected.

So Reactivty setting, proper setting depends on ground mineral levels as well as swing speed one uses.  A balancing act sometimes is done meaning if a person knowingly decides to run too low a reactivity they will intentionally sweep slower.  As one gathers more experience with Deus they will see this.  It is my opinion, folks new to Deus, new detectorist learning  Deus do not use Reactivty levels 0 or 1, or level 5.   As your skill and experience grows you will be able to venture here and have a better understanding of what is going on.

Remember I said Reactivty can drive depth of detection.  Well the Reactivty setting can also drive how the Deus IDs targets, the tone it gives and also affect horseshoe shading based on a targets depth.

Example, a 8"  deep nickle.  Using reactivity level 2, Deus may give accurate ID, and approx mid levels to 3/4 shading of horseshoe,and give mid tone if assigned on nickel.  But this same 8" deep nickel, raising Reactivty level to 3, horseshoe shading would be less, nickle ID inaccurate, and tone would follow the inaccurate ID, meaning if high tone assigned to 90s region nickle would give high tone.  Plus tone would be noticeably shorter.

Special note here: Deus silencer can change when a user is changing Reactivty setting, and user won't realize.  When going to Reactivty levels 2 and lower, silencer setting will self adjust itself all on its own.  If a user saves a program with reactivity levels 0-2 with low silencer, and a user turns on their Deus and selects program silencer setting preset in your programs intact, however if you decide to bump your Reactivty up in your program and then decide to go back to reactivity levels 0-2 your silencer setting may not be what you want.  Users should experiment with this to see what happens and be mindful of this in the field when detecting.

So you can see Reactivty setting depending, adds a lot of variables for a user to keep up with when detecting targets.

Silencer

What is it?

Basically it is your filter setting.  How can it hurt or help you in the field.  First of all -1 setting is filter off, and as you progress upwards more and more filter is applied.

The milder the ground generally the more silencer you can run for max detectable depth.  Too much silencer a target may get broken, or signal gets compromised on the edges making a user think ferrous instead of nonferrous.  Silencer setting can also be used to make Deus give broken signals or compromised signals on the mighty steel bottlecaps.  But remember silencer affects depth somewhat.  So here you can't have both- max depth and broken signals on bottle caps usually.  A Deus user can set up a like programs adjacent to their hunt program and toggle to it and check using your designed program with higher silencer setting.  Silencer setting also affects Deus' capabilities of separating and unmaking in iron too.  My advice is set to level -1 or 0 if in milder ground and learn Deus this way as far as actual detecting.  Deus will be sparkier sounding tonally on some iron and nails vs using higher silencer settings.

Max separation and unmasking capabilities happen with silencer set to -1.  This is with all coils.  Disclaimer here.  The use of the elliptical HF coil, running silencer at -1 does give Deus max capabilities as stated above, but a user can expect to dig a higher level of ferrous targets while detecting in the wild.

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Great write up. I'm an experienced Deus user in terms of hours on it but I can learn something from these posts and will take the proper time to go through everything. 

Well done. 

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23 minutes ago, Skate said:

Great write up. I'm an experienced Deus user in terms of hours on it but I can learn something from these posts and will take the proper time to go through everything. 

Well done. 

We'll see how it turns out in the end.

Btw, I am making this thread up as I go along, no notes, just thinking off the top of my head.

This alluding to making up shouldn't be taken here by folks as fiction.  Far from it!!

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Audio response setting

What does it do basically?  It depending on level allows Deus to modulate signals to varying degrees or not.

Levels of 4 or less generally will allow deeper targets to sound fainter, whereas levels 5-7 for all practical purposes make all targets sound the same.  What I have said here is in an ideal sense. Closes the gap may be better to say here.

I personally recommend a setting of 5 and learn the Deus.  Ninety nine percent of my Deus use, my audio response setting has been at level 5.  In high wind or noisy environments wearing backphones I have  used levels 6 or 7 occassionally.

What could lowering this setting of for you, say level 3 setting?

Well surface targets will definitely sound out moreso with tone strength volume, with deeper targets sounding fainter. 

Say a friend has recently lost a ring.  Using lower audio response should allow shallower targets to be heard easier. You will if used infact  have a form of tonal volume discrimination, the ring won't be deep like things lost months and years ago.  A user might even decide to dial their sensitvty down as well.

Notch use and what it does.

The use of notch is so a user can if they desire knock out certain targets, usually junk targets.  Using notch does come with risks though.  The notch feature is designed to tonally knock out targets based on the Deus' felt conductivy levels of what it detects.  So if an adjacent or colocated lower or higher conductive target exist notch may work to your disadvantage giving no tone or broken tone, meaning it's existence could go unknown to you while sweeping.

Notch feature the way it works is tied to Deus ability to I.D targets depth.

Remember I keep harping that Deus ID on deeper targets inaccurate.  Well, what this means is I can actually notch out a nickel and still detect tonally.  Strange sounding right?  Yes if I notch out a nickel the shallow and mid depth nickels would be blocked tonally, yet the deeper gets through tonally.  So on a site with some modern trash, a person could use notch to notch out all lower and mid conducive junk like pull tabs, and yes you have capability to make finds - deeper.. Deeper nickels, both shallow and deeper higher conductive things like silver, deeper pull tabs if they exist and other deeper junk targets.

You should bury some pull tabs and other mid to lower conductive junk targets and experiement with notch.  Even consider laying a pull tab near a dime and experimenting.  Notch if used, if a target(s) scenario is computed and felt by Deus and it is near the boudaries (either end) of your area of notch very possible for targets to try and leak through with broken tone, static, definitely not whole tonal sounding.  A key thing to remember about notch. Deus can on some nonferrous targets depending on the scenario, say for sample a coin mixed with nail.  This coin could be detected without incident using no notch, but could with notch employed, this coin could make no tone what so ever.  Hence you walk right by.  Deus and a lot of other Vlf detectors, whenever a nonferrous target is challenged by ferrous, Deus tendency is to start IDing lower.  Remember the tug of war I mentioned earlier.  The iron or nail may be trying to win over the Deus, but can't hence Deus engineering can decipher enough giving user the tonal clue/ behavior the nonferrous object exist.  Could be pull tab, coin, even gold, piece of jewelry, etc.. Now remember this tug of war going on between iron/nails vs nonferrous targets.  The higher conductive targets have to be pulled on more vs a lower conductive like a small gold coin, nickel 3 cent piece, etd.  So more wars will be lost generally on the lower conductive targets.  But Deus still shines here compared  to many other detector models sniffing out the lower conductors mixed with ferrous materials.  Deus likely will NOT find all nonferrous targets in a site.  My goal here is to guide you so the Deus can do its thing as far as get what is it capable of getting out of a site.

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Frequency

Deus can utilize low freq coils operating roughly at 4khz, 8khz, 12khz and 18khz.

Deus can also utilize HF coils (elliptical and round) as long as a user has version 4 Deus program loaded.  The elliptical operates with 3 bands of 14.4khz, 28.8khz and 74khz.  The round HF coil has 3 bands running at 14.4khz, 28.8khz and 54khz. All Deus coils do offer freq adjustment although limted for interference (emi) mitigation.

For now I am only going to talk about the low frequency (LF) coils.

So the first question a user might have is which frequency while using one of the LF coils do I use to detect? Is there better or or worse frequency to use depending?  And do any of the frequencies offer any advantages or disadvantages?

First I should mention a user using 4khz on Deus, a users transmit power (TX) is locked to a level 3 setting, which is max.  Right off the bat some here reading maybe thinking ok this should get me the most depth.

Will it?

Possibly but depends on soil minerals levels.  Max TX power is not recommended (based solely on my experiences) on ground that is medium high to higher mineralized.  If a person chooses to go against my advice here and try, what will they likely experience ? Detector can be noisier when sweeping, plus deeper targets could be washed out tonally, nonferrous targets could even mimmick ferrous materials.  Remember you have no TX power adjustment here.

Some folks do build themselves a program with 4khz utilized to use by toggling to check for bottle caps.  Bottle caps, Deus in 4khz likes to distort tone on them vs say a good nonferrous coin.  Also 4 kHz NOT the frequency of choice when seeking deeper lower comductive  targets like nickels, things made of pewter, small and medium sized gold items smaller and medium lead items, etc.

Also note here the use of 4khz when used in a site, Deus separation and 3D unmasking capabilities are greatly reduced. NOT a good frequency to use on an old site with loads of ferrous materials.

Next I am going to fast forward to the other end of spectrum.  The use of 18khz.  Use of this frequency allows  Deus to give signals on lower conductive targets and yes even real small bits of higher conductive targets ( the size of these targets does drive felt conductive levels of Deus). Use of 18khz is where Deus operates at peak performance for separation and unmasking 3D target scenarios.  So will a person generally be able to detect using this frequency and find verything a user using 4khz will?  The answer is YES generally.  A user of 18khz hunting an old site and is proficient with Deus will generally find more nonferous targets vs a user using 4khz, and this applies to the use of 8khz and 12khz as well.  But remember the user of 18khz, the Deus will tone in more on more targets, the more masked, the smaller and or lower conductive, even deeper ones the use of higher freqs may indeed give no signal on or a more compromised signal allowing a user to miss.

Some differences noted when sweeping deeper higher conductive targets when comparing 4khz or 8khz to 18khz.  User may indeed hear a stronger tone overall using 4 or 8khz.  But remember your separation is a bit compromised when using these 2 frequencies.  Coin sized targets are generally harder to be masked by ferrous materials so the use of 8khz for example could yield most detectable coins out of a site.

The use of 8khz is a good overall frequency for a coin hunter using Deus.  This frequency although not the best for the deepest nickels.

The use of 12khz is a very good all arounder, strong on silver, copper and yes nickels even deeper ones.  Some separation and unmasking capabilities though are lessened using this frequency vs the use of 18khz.

BTW, the utilization of the freq bands of 8khz, 12khz, and 18khz, Deus does offer user the option of TX power levels of 1, 2 and  3.  But what I said above when talking about TX lower as far as 4khz use applies as well to these 3 frequency bands.

Special note here: User's frequency choice depending on target's conductivity be it a high, medium or lower conductive target as felt by Deus- Some targets may ID differently as far as tonal propeties and horseshoe data may be skewed depending.  And example here.  A user operating using 4 khz with say a greater than mid depth nickel under their coil, since 4khz is worse for detecting this lower conductive target, Deus may show this target deeper via horseshoe shading vs say using 12khz over the same nickel with all other settings equal (tx power of 3 in 4khz may not help or correct this here).

Some folks reading here may be still confused at to which frequency is the best choice for them.

I will talk about frequency as far as the HF coils go later.

Well this next subject I talk about here may help you decide which frequency  you decide to use depending on your site for detection.

Frequency used versus ID of targets displayed in meter

When the Deus is able to give accurate to close to accurate ID of targets in the meter's window, this ID will depend on whixh frequency is used.  Generally when the same target is swept using the different frequencies as the freq band is raised the ID of target will increase numerically in the meter's window.  A  dime will read lowest at 4khz and the highest at 18khz.  The same for a nickel, quarter, penny, any nonferrous target really.  So a person needs to become familiar with the different IDs using the different frequencies.  Well you can if you want.  But there is a way to avoid but using this process does come with a disadvantage - the process called normalization of Vdi.

Normalization is a term I need to talk about here.  This feature is available in the menu system of Deus.  And I believe it is default set to ON.

What does selecting normalization do?  Selecting this option allows Deus in an ideal sense so that no matter what frequency a user uses, all targets read the same in the meter.  Remember though some small differences may be witnessed.  I encourage users to use this feature and compare on some coins and change frequencies and sweep them with this feature engaged and disengaged.  Users will notice when this feature is turned ON, the ID of targets is geared to what  a person would see using 18khz with the feature turned off.  

So turning normalization ON ideally makes all targets read the same.  So some may be thinking, oh boy a no-brainer why in the world would I want to have to rememeber all the different ID on say coins using different frequencies with normalization turned OFF?

Well there is a catch as to why this might not be the best choice.

What is this exactly?  Well, when you change frequency on Deus and sweep nomferous targets they do ID differently, but this comes with a benefit.  What benefit?  Deus when lower frequencies are used will ID lower and mid conductive targets less near to the higher conductive targets.  And when you set your tones bins up this makes it easier to disguish tonally what you have under your coil.  

Another exercise.

Get a higher conductive coin, some junk targets like pull tabs, pull tabs with ring still attached, zinc modern penny, a dime., copper penny.

Sweep each one of your targets and note meter readings using each frequency with nomalization turned off.  Note the differences.  You should notice as lower frequency is used the zinc penny for example as far as ID is less near the ID of copper penny and dime.  As frequency is raised the ID noted between copper penny and dime is nearer the zinc penny's ID.  So using higher frequency a more rigid tone break when setting up your tones has to be done to differentiate a zinc penny from a copper penny. 

So you have a better understanding and can get familiarized faster I will post a link here with good info associated with this subject.

The chart in this link, applies when normalization is turned OFF on Deus.

http://www.metaldetectingworld.com/xp-deus-vdi-chart-us-coins-relics.shtml

I will cap of this section by talking more about TX Power setting.

I have already commented here previously about TX power level 3.

I'll repeat not a good choice for higher mineralized ground.  Will cause some signals clearly detectable using Tx power  2 to be wishy washy.

Tx Power level 2 is the best overall choice in most detecting venues.

Tx power level 1 is good for hunting super polluted sites where depth in not the users concern.  Using this lower level can allow Deus to sniff out some nonferrous targets where they would normally using higher TX power setting be masked (undetectable) or harder to hear for the user.

TX power level 3 does have one more use.  In areas with high interference (emi) and a Deus user wants to back off on their sensivity setting (to reduce effects of e I) yet try to gain some of their depth capability back (not all) this will work.  But in higher mineralized  soil I don't recommend doing.  Users should also note coil battery run times as TX power is adjusted to the different levels will be affected.  Refer to Deus manual for more details.

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Alright,

Confused yet or don't understand some thing I have said.  Don't worry I won't  leave you hanging.

Some general conversation here about Deus.

Let's talk about your roughly 5 first outings with your Deus unit.

What to do?  Well it might be a good idea to take your Deus manual with you or at the very least have access to internet source of manual via cell phone in case you have difficulties.  I HIGHLY encourage folks when they received their Deus units become famaliar with the menus shown on remote as well as what is a available on the headphone module with the remote powered on and off.  Users should also learn how to pair each component following instructions in the manual.

So, let's say you hit the road with Deus to try out and hunt.  Which programs should you be using?  In my opinion new users of Deus, new detectorist starting out with Deus you have 3 options as far as programs.  Use either Deus fast, Basic or the Hot program.  I do not recommend running the deep program out the gate.  So you are running one of these programs and you get confused because you made some settings changes while detecting.

What to do?  Very easy.  Deus is engineered so factory programs cannot be changed permanently.  So when you power off Deus and turn back on all factory programs are reset to factory settings.  If you have indeed designed a program on your own and named, when you power on Deus your program with all previously loaded settings will be in this program.  But if you make changes to your program while using detector and get lost or confused, very simple.  Turn off Deus, turn back on and your personal program settings will be reset to how you saved previously. 

 

Folks, not all you tube videos are created equal.  Some are defintiely better than others.  The Deus will indeed hunt for you, given the opportunity and some application by you yourselves.

The mighty Deus will detect targets with multiple settings, multiple frequencies some times, but remember there is a distinct difference in checking an already located nonferrous target checking with other settings.  What am I saying is, finding a target is harder to do usually than comparing Deus with different settings or even using another detector to compare over this same already located target.  So don't develop a false sense of security based on some of your comparisons. Or get side tracked necessarily by some thing you see as far as you tube goes.

Xp Deus with a detectorist using a one LF coil setup, hunting older sites, Deus likely will not be able to be used with one set of settings and locate  all nonferrous objects in a site the Deus is capable of.

I will use this area here to post some links I feel may help folks with Deus operation.  These links I have full confidence they provide worthy info.

First here the Deus version 4 manual for reading and reference.

http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/telechargement/Instruction manual/DEUS_V4_MANUAL_UK.pdf

This link here contains multiple videos discussing Deus.

http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/metal-detector/category/videos-xp/deus/

This link shows Xp classroom and skills school videos.

http://www.xp-detectors.co.uk

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Let's talk about some general care here for your Deus unit.

The manual outlines some Dos and Don'ts.

Your Deus coil is waterproof down to a certain level depth wise when submerged, the remote is NOT waterproof.  The remote is also a very costly item so give it the attention it deserves.

Rod maintenance.  Deus rod is very durable.  It is not meant to be a crutch, walking stick though. Users when digging targets and wish to keep a hold of their detector shouldn't it be leaning on their detector rod.  The cam locks on the rod work well.  One area to keep eye on with continued detector use is the pins that secure the camlock parts to the rod.  The pins can with time work their way out somewhat. Pin movement likely will happen when the tension is removed from camlock while in the open position.  So always transport your Deus rod with camocks in locked position.

Coil maintenance.  Coil like I said is waterproof.  The coil cover though can with use gather some dirt/sand under it.  This could depending on the amount or how highly mineralized this dirt or sand is cause you some loss of depth performance.  So remove your coil cover occassionally and clean as necessary.  Keep the coil charging clip contact points clean.  Good idea to clean before charging coil every time.  Coil bolt used with Deus and washers seem are worthy.  But users of Deus who travel longer distances to detect or go to more remote sites, carrying an extra coil bolt along is a very good idea.  This bolt should not be over tightened, tightened properly coil should be able to be moved by hand with some moderate force.  Better here to be looser than tighter, as long as coil will hold its proper position while you are sweeping is the idea here.

Remote maintence.  Your remote's screen needs a protective cover to eliminate permanent scratching through contact while using your unit.  Users have options available through many sources to purchase materials to protect remote's screen, the same materials used to protect iPad, cell phone, tablet screens will do.  Users will likely notice with increase time on their units, this protective covering will indeed become scratched obscuring vision somewhat, so your protective covering may required changing in the future to insure best viewing of screen.  Users when in the field should guard against pushing buttons on remote while fingers are covered with dirt/mud.  Very possible for a build up to occur down under your remote's buttons causing problems.

Coil charging clip. The clip I deem as fragile.  Use care when using when applying to your coil, don't over extend when opening when placing on your coil's contact points.  I highly recommend folks to have at least one spare in case of breakage.  There is at least one aftermarket charging clip available, from all accounts it is more durable than the factory clip supplied.

Headphone module.  No real maintenance required.  The contact points might require cleaning especially if a user is experiencing audio problems.

Warranty repairs 

Xp's support for Deus repairs seems is very good.  Folks should remember though all warranty repairs will require proof of purchase receipt. Registering your unit components on Xp's site no substitute for needed proof of purchase receipt in case warranty repairs are needed.  And since Deus is more modular designed, an owner could sell of a part like headphones, ect and replace with something else.  Insure if you do send another person a receipt, keep your very own copy of your purchase receipt for your components that remain on hand.

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