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Since this particular button (user profile) is brought up here, I just have one question.

Steve, does the program data contained here, is it subject to the same rules concerning global settings, semi global, and local settings ?

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55 minutes ago, Tnsharpshooter said:

Since this particular button (user profile) is brought up here, I just have one question.

Steve, does the program data contained here, is it subject to the same rules concerning global settings, semi global, and local settings ?

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Good question.  My take on it from reading the manual is that it will adopt the local settings "personality" of whatever mode you are in when you long press it.  From the manual p. 33

"User Profile stores the set values of all current local settings so that 
you can access them instantly later.
The default settings for the User Profile are a copy of Park Mode Search 
Profile 1."

It is like an extra profile save button but for any mode you choose ( e.g., you could use this button to save a third gold mode if you choose.  In fact this is exactly what I plan to do with it since it will allow me to instantly switch to gold VCO threshold mode from any of the other 3 "normal" tone audio modes).

What is not necessarily clear is if the detector global settings (e.g., volume, sensitivity, etc.) are also saved like they are when you turn off the detector.  I suspect not because that is not how the mode profile save buttons work and because it would be pretty jarring to hit the button while you have volume or sensitivity relatively low and you had hit profile save with volume and sens cranked.

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If the answer to my question above is yes or no.

And there is no real passage in manual clearly denoting what I have asked about.

Imo, Minelab should consider amending manual to include such a passage.

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No one has the Equinox in their hands yet and it seems as though everyone is trying to make rocket science out of it without ever using or testing it. My take is learn as you go and come back to the website with questions and what tricks you learned. Not tricks but settings that work well for you. 

I never carry a shovel unless I am on a relic hunt and even then if I need a shovel I am probably not interested in digging that deep only to find some rusty fence with a few barbs on it. But then again I am 73 and the lighter I go the better. On the beach I carry a scoop but rarely do I try and tweak settings without sitting down so I can concentrate on what I am doing.. 

For me the forums are classrooms where I learn from others and most often I copy, paste and print what I want and take it on the next hunt with me.. 

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17 minutes ago, Tnsharpshooter said:

If the answer to my question above is yes or no.

And there is no real passage in manual clearly denoting what I have asked about.

Imo, Minelab should consider amending manual to include such a passage.

I can 100% guarantee you the answer to your question is yes or no. :biggrin:

Maybe I don’t understand your question, but what I was trying say that if you understand how the mode profile save buttons 1 and 2 work with respect to local, global, and semi global settings, then the user profile button appears to work in exactly the same manner except it isn’t tethered to a specific mode.  

Admittedly, I am having a little trouble fully understanding if global/semi global settings are saved when you save a search profile because that would suggest you just changed it for all saved profiles if that happens to be the last profile you saved.

The wording on page 33 mirrors the mode profile wording on the mode profile buttons of p. 22 except no mention of global settings.

Really need the detector in my hands to get some of this to sink in before I would declare that the manual needs to be revised.  JMO.

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52 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

I can 100% guarantee you the answer to your question is yes or no. :biggrin:

Maybe I don’t understand your question, but what I was trying say that if you understand how the mode profile save buttons 1 and 2 work with respect to local, global, and semi global settings, then the user profile button appears to work in exactly the same manner except it isn’t tethered to a specific mode.  

Admittedly, I am having a little trouble fully understanding if global/semi global settings are saved when you save a search profile because that would suggest you just changed it for all saved profiles if that happens to be the last profile you saved.

The wording on page 33 mirrors the mode profile wording on the mode profile buttons of p. 22 except no mention of global settings.

Really need the detector in my hands to get some of this to sink in before I would declare that the manual needs to be revised.  JMO.

Alright, a few examples to illustrate why I asked  my question,

If I elect user profile, and change a setting, say a (usually global one) when using say regular programs does this change here in user profile affect the other programs?

Or if I make a setting change using regular program ( global setting) will this change be transcribed into my user profile program?

Basically is global as described in manual, global for all programs even a program saved in user profile (only 800 models)?

Btw, I have reviewed the settings deemed global.  Sensitivty seems is, so if using user profile program,  if sensitivity  carries over from regular programs, this would mean say checking a deeper target using users profile program, a user may have to readjust to their liking every time they select.

And this would also mean, I would have to make sure to adjust my sensitivity back to where I wanted it in the first place while in user profile program, of wait and do after I go back when I select my regular program.

 

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any changes made to local settings when the User Profile is active
will be saved automatically.
To exit from the User Profile, press either the User Profile button
or the Detect Mode button. Settings will return to the last-used
Detect Mode Search Profile and the User Profile icon will turn off.

 

 

You have saved your current favorite setting in user profile  but want to check if a change in settings may help.  Here's how I would use it

1. start off in the mode that you have saved in the profile such as field 2

2. activate user profile and hunt,  when you encounter say for instance a deep or iffy target exit user profile. This will put you in field 2 so you can make adjustments without affecting your saved settings.  If you like what you see with those adjustments save those current settings.

 

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I think info posted on page 12 of manual answers at least part of my question.

Sensitivty setting is global.

Maybe I am not understanding what global means.

If I change a setting deemed global (sensitivty) while using a program (and not save program) when I toggle to search profile program or another detect program, what setting for sensitivty will be seen?

If the answer to above is I will infact see different sensitivty levels when viewing different programs.

So what if I save a program, then go to other programs, even user profile program, what will I see for sensitivty settings?

 

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As I said before, I don’t think the global parameters (volume/sens/backlight) change when you shift profiles (which means only local settings are likely saved for each profile) because I think that would be jarring to the user.

Also, again this might be more appropriately discussed when some people have the machine in hand.

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The Equinox 800 has eight Search Profiles: Park 1, Park 2, Field 1, Field 2, Beach 1, Beach 2, Gold 1, and Gold 2

The User Profile button at any time let’s you make a mirror image of any one of those Search Profiles. It will actually appear as if you are going to the particular Search Profile in question, except the User Profile indicator icon will be lit.

For instance, you might have Beach 1 set a way you like for now, but want to keep fiddling with it. Press and hold the User Profile a couple seconds, and an exact copy of Beach 1 will be saved to the User Profile. You can now change the original Beach 1 if you wish, or change the new extra copy of Beach 1 that you have saved in the User Profile. Any Search Profile that is copied to the User Profile is still subject to all the same conditions and rules as the original, including those governing Global Settings.

Global means one setting for all Search Profiles. You can change the sensitivity at any time, and that setting stays current no matter what modes or Search Profiles you change to.

Due to the button location when operating the detector with my right hand I have found it more convenient to use my left hand to press the button. If this was impossible, I can use my right hand to grip the pod between thumb and index finger and press the button with my index finger. A little unwieldy but it works. The pod is like a cell phone in how it can be held and manipulated.

Remember that if right hand operation were critical, you can always just use the normal Mode button to flip through Search Profiles. It takes a few more quick button presses, but ends up getting the job done also.

I have employed the User Profile button a couple times to do some basic experiments but it is not something I have used personally in the course of normal detecting.

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