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9 minutes ago, Tnsharpshooter said:

Well I appreciate your thoughts.  Not my video.  You likely won't see any video from me.  You are going to see loads of commentary from me though over coming weeks.

I know you don't do videos, but others may not know that and since people use different handles on different sites may not know the difference.  So a short note with the post clearly stating, not mine but just posting here for info helps keep folks on the same page.  Just a suggestion, not a critique.

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I went back and watched the video for the 3rd time with my new coin TID card in hand. Trying to see if there was anything else to learn. I was also curious about folks talking about jumpy IDs because I really didn't see that the first time I watched it. The only jumpy IDs that I noticed were junk targets. Bent screw cap, can, corroded zinc penny, etc. Most detectors give junky signals on junk. I see it as the detector warning you to maybe not waste you time. Its just more information. A lot of it is just based on the irregular shape of the object. Of course if you were jewelry hunting you would dig junky signals because a lot of it has odd shapes. Or a target at the extreme edge of detection might give a jumpy ID. As a coin hunter if I get a jumpy ID at 6-7" or less I just move on. I know the experienced detectorists already know all of this but it might be helpful to a new person.

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48 minutes ago, Skate said:

The issue of sensitivity has many meanings. If you run your sensitivity too high on your detector you may experience a bunch of noise and chatter causing you to miss the target.

In a forum type setting if your sensitivity to what is being written is too high you can create a bunch of noise and miss what people are trying to say. 

The problem with the internet is there is no filter. You can't "hear" how people write. What one person views as helpful another sees as criticism. Forums can be a tough place to discuss subjects because no one really knows you and can explain away what you wrote or that of another so the chance to offend is always there. 

I think it was a great video. I knew it wasn't TNS because he gets his machine this week. It was great because the Equinox is finally here. It was great because the TID seems to work pretty well. I love my Deus but not the TID so I'm excited by what i saw. He dug some pretty big holes and while I don't think it's the way to go for his parks or his situation this may be entirely acceptable so everyone needs to use their own judgement and apply it to their own situations.

A great example about holes happened to me last week at the beach. I was filling one of my holes in the wet sand and this woman walked by and asked me why I was taking all this time to fill my holes? She looked at me and said "this is the beach, in two hours your hole will be covered." She gave me the you must be stupid look and walked off. 

Not everyone is concerned about your holes so go dig some. 

Well I think you were doing the right thing so who cares what she thinks.  In two hours a lot of people could have come along and twisted their ankle or worse in your hole.  You are not suggesting people shouldn't cover them, right?  (Sorry I'm dense).

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Tnsharpshooter,  Hats off for willing to take the time to shoot a real life actual customer video with the EQ-800.  As you get more familiar with it, things will start to gel and come together. 

Keep it up and we look for ward to more educational videos.

A ring on the 1st target is a fantastic find.  I was testing an SE Pro for Minelab 10+ years ago and the 1st target I dug was a Barber Quarter.  Now I was in a 100+ year old site too, so was not worried about pull tabs.

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Just MHO on plug size and shovel size. I use a predator type shovel even in parks for a few reasons. Digging straight down cuts less grass roots thereby killing less roots. Also digging deeper makes for more mass in the plug so when it is put back in it is heavier and won't get pulled out when the mower goes over it. Shallow plugs can get sucked out leaving holes that really cause us to be vilified. Reinserting the plug exactly as it came out leaves very little evidence that it ever came out especially when i use a piece plastic square to put plug and dirt on so it all goes back in the hole leaving no dirt evidence of ever being dug and of course stomping the plug back in helps a lot too. I have had park rangers watch me for some time and then come and see where I have dug with little ability to know where the hole was and then came and commented to me how good my digs were. Time and care count more then plug size again in MHO. 

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35 minutes ago, Gerry in Idaho said:

Tnsharpshooter,  Hats off for willing to take the time to shoot a real life actual customer video with the EQ-800.  As you get more familiar with it, things will start to gel and come together. 

Keep it up and we look for ward to more educational videos.

A ring on the 1st target is a fantastic find.  I was testing an SE Pro for Minelab 10+ years ago and the 1st target I dug was a Barber Quarter.  Now I was in a 100+ year old site too, so was not worried about pull tabs.

Well I appreciate your thoughts.  Not my video.  You likely won't see any video from me.  You are going to see loads of commentary from me though over coming weeks concerning Equinox here on this forum.  Good down to earth honest talk.

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Glad to see  the E800 in action.  I like the target sound and tone but I'm not in any rush to get one.  At least until it gets warmer and I can see  more evidence of greatness for my particular needs.

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2 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

Well I think you were doing the right thing so who cares what she thinks.  In two hours a lot of people could have come along and twisted their ankle or worse in your hole.  You are not suggesting people shouldn't cover them, right?  (Sorry I'm dense).

Of course not just pointing out how something we feel is super important was viewed by an outsider for whom we cover our holes for. 

This perfectly illustrates my point. I would never have thought that my point would be thought of in this way(not to cover your holes). It's about perception which is why I try not to get offended over every little thing someone says. 

Now Chase, just to be clear, I was not offended by what you said even though someone who may be new to detecting might think it's now ok to leave holes in the sand because Skate may have been implying that it was alright to do. :laugh:

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1 hour ago, Skate said:

Of course not just pointing out how something we feel is super important was viewed by an outsider for whom we cover our holes for. 

This perfectly illustrates my point. I would never have thought that my point would be thought of in this way(not to cover your holes). It's about perception which is why I try not to get offended over every little thing someone says. 

Now Chase, just to be clear, I was not offended by what you said even though someone who may be new to detecting might think it's now ok to leave holes in the sand because Skate may have been implying that it was alright to do. :laugh:

Thanks, I'm not offended either.  Just confused. :blink:  as usual.

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Good point about junk targets usually being jumpy even on shallow targets such as the ones in this video.  But the two airtest videos that were posted yesterday also seem to show jumpy ID on coins.  I also re-watched this video and noticed that during his sweeps while noting Target ID he was not over the center of the target most of the time and was a few inches off one way or the other from where the target was actually located.  That can also cause the jumpy ID.  I think there are just too many variables to know for sure without using an Equinox yourself.

The best part about the video for me was getting a good listen to the audio, which sounds excellent even in 50 tones mode.  I'd dare say it sounds like a real Minelab (similar to the CTX 3030 and Sovereign GT I owned).  

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