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Still been plugging along with Equinox.
Spent loads of time day before yesterday in my detector proving grounds.

Wish I had a dollar for every button I pushed today. Lol

Thought I would share this. I did something similar when I first got my Equinox.  And posted in this thread actually.

Stock coil attached to Equinox.
Dirt mineralizarion reflects 5 ticks in Xp Deus meter.

Clean ground with short grass.

Clad dime at a solid 11” deep.  Could be as deep 11.25.
Ground conditions damp.
Freshly buried keeping plug pretty much intact.

Sensivity levels 24 and 25 used.
Tried all detect modes with each getting noise cancel and Ground balance.

No tricks.

Only threes detect modes gave signals.with horseshoe button AM disengaged.
Gold 1and 2.
Park 2.

Park 2 sounded  good.

ID of 2 in the meter high percentage of sweeps, depth meter pegged.
Speed 6 imo yielded best signal vs coil sweep speed.
I could get signal using speed 7 ( rated 2nd best behind speed 6).
I could get signal speed 8, but  audio funky sounding.
Speeds 5 and also speed 4, slower coil sweep mandatory.  Also coil would be a long ways past spot of buried clad dime before sounding off.
Using Gold modes I could get imo equivalent signals running one speed number higher (faster) vs park 2.

Next test a 13” buried clad nickel.
Again only detect modes to give signal were Gold 1 and 2 plus park 2.
Here though signal comes and goes, not as solid at giving signal on sweeps.  
Speed 6 again gave best signal.
Depth meter pegged.
One way tone given on a lot of sweeps.
ID though ran from 4 to 8 when signal was gotten.
Speed 5 so, so and speed 4 notta.

Once I got to a lower speed. setting (slower) and could not get signal I stopped checked lower settings.

I can say with 100 percent certainty, if you advance Equinox coil too far on sweep progression, you stand a great chance of not locating some deeper nonferrous objects the detector  is capable of locating.  Like maybe 2” of progression.  Eye on coil for detection extremely small yet is there.

How did the might Deus Version 5.1 11” LF dd coil do on the above targets?
On the buried dime, I rate a signal just because I knew the dime was there, Chopped big time.  Played with a lot of settings, programs even did a little negative GB.  I got nothing signal wise imo I wouldn’t consider taking a shot at digging.  

The Deus on the buried nickel above.   No signal I would dig ever.  Nothing to even give me hint of a poasilbe nonferous lurking.

The 2buroed coins were checked this morning and again this afternoon 8 hours later.
Same results gotten with each detector noted above.
Btw, using Equinox and stock on buried dime, this afternoon I went one step further.  I checked for signal manually selecting each channel after doing noise cancel. Did NOT GB after changing channels,  Around half of the channels would at lest give me a one way signal when coil was swept.  Three channels would indeed give me 2 way signal.  Signal as good as I acquired with auto noise cancel done.

I think I can say with reasonable certainty, the 40khz used on Equinox with the multi IQ tech is one of the secret weapons. 
Also some folks may be reading here.

How did the 2 deep coins above look and sound with horseshoe button engaged?
Lots of negative numbers displayed down to around -5.
Could a person be fooled thinking one of these deep coins is iron by ONLY listening and looking using AM?  I think so.
But could a person indeed detect (hunt) with horseshoe button engaged and have a high chance of locating a deep target (more allowed coil slop) position wise?  YES.
But in areas with lots of iron doing this may indeed takes it toll on you concentration wise.
Using Gold 1 detect mode will also allow more slop both in coil position but also sweep speed.  You can always cross check using say park 2 detect mode.

Personally I don’t generally hunt with horseshoe button engaged.

Folks should think about what I said above as far as coil progression on sweeps.
A 20ft section when advancing coil 11” btw, to deem Nox dead it would take a whole lot of sweeps just in this 20 ft span.  And this would only be from one direction obviously.
Two inches at a time.

Milder ground may allow for more slop or faster sweep speed for better signal acquisition.
And more extreme ground mineralizarion wise even worse than my soil in my area generally.

 Btw deepest dime I have ever recovered using Etrac and CTX stock coils.  Three at 10”deep.  None were ever deeper.  Lots of 8-9” deep dimes and wheats.  These 10”deep dimes did ID as high conductors on the 2 detectors though.

Here’s is pic of my unit control head.
She is used, not been laying around.
Folks, notice the scratches on the protective screen in pic.
I urge all to pronto put a protector on your screen.
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Spent 4 hours yesterday using Equinox 800 and stock coil in my detector proving grounds site.
I think some folks will find my results  interesting.
I did make some finds and actually compared Equinox to itself changing detect modes on some targets.

So how many detectors in one is the Equinox actually?
I can’t say (above my pay grade) lol, but it is definitely more than one!!

Some folks reading here may just be looking at Equinox or maybe they already have one.
Some of these folks may be led astray based on how the actual detect modes are indeed named, thinking they can go by the name for their intended application and get the overall best results afield.

I can say without a doubt, the groups of folks behind Equinox are real geniuses.  The power of multi frequency inside the Nox is evident to me.  Granted this advantage won’t be witnessed on all buried undisturbed nonferrous targets.  

All I know is the Equinox finds nonferrous, and seems some highly crippled.  I can’t even say for sure if this being crippled is due to size, shape, orientation, ferrous or soil mineralization specifically.
Is the Nox the end all?
Don’t think so.
I have checked very few targets located using other detectors with Equinox.
I have witnesssed some other detectors struggling or not providing a signal at all I consider even borderline worthy, yet the Equinox is giving full clear(er) tone. 

If I would have videoed today’s results it would have been a great video I think.  The folks at Minelab would have indeed been very proud.  Ole Calabash is trying to talk me into getting a camera and doing vidoes.  I may.

I am not in the tank with any manufacturer.  I report you decide.

This area today I had already spent quite a bit of time using Field 2 detect mode.  This is documented in this thread.  My experiences using field 2 while locating and sweeping some nonferous finds buried undisturbed, Park 2 detect mode for whatever reason always seemed to give stronger tone, yet tone was compromised, sometimes even very abrasive making a user maybe think iron.

Oh, I forgot to say and this is very important.  It is my opinion Equinox capabilities cannot be fully demonstrated fully with on top of the ground testing, or even buried targets.So what I am saying watch those nail board tests, etc.  I too have done such tests, and the real reason I did them was/is to maybe get clues to how Equinox will behave.  The tests I did sure wouldn’t a total waste of time.  They did help me.

Give me a few minutes and I will post some pics and talk about what I witnessed today while using Equinox.
Tinypic  site is down.
Delayed for now.

Will tell in words and add pics later.

Three musket balls found, one rather larger.
One cufflink.
One piece of horse or mule tack
And one small thin piece of nonferrous.
All confirmed nonferrous (totally using magnet:.
Deepest target approx 5.5” deep,

Detect mode park 2used for locating all but one, the bigger musket ball.  Used gold mode 1 for that one.  Speed 6 iron bias 0 sens 24 used with Park 2. Default factory disc used.
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Cufflink gave a good signal with low ID using park 2. A signal I would  have bet the farm was nonferrous by tonal signature and behavior.
Checked using park 1, field 1 and 2.
Same sensitivty used as I used with park 2.
Field 2 no cigar, nothing  tonally I would even remotely dig.
Park 1 same results as field 2- nothing.
Field 1,I got an extremely weak signal, a signal I rate as I suspected something was there based on park 2 signal.
Gold mode 1, a blasting signal. Smooth too,
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Bigger musket ball was located using Gold 1 detect mode.  I should say it got me to stop, but what I heard I was about to walk.  Went to park 2 and just something about the signal even though it was compromised, broken I was very curious.  Glad I did.  Target read 15 innthe ground and airtested 15 as well.   No telling how many times I have swept this baby in the past with Deus.  Was only a 2 way signal too.
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Horse tack.
Park 2detect mode only mode of the park and field modes to give any signal.  About 3.5” deep.
Didn’t check with gold mode.
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The real small thin nonferrous.
Park 2 only mode of the park and field modes to give signal.  I did adjust disc to 0 on all other detect modes when sweeping.
Gold mode 1 would indeed give signal.  Tiny sounding though.
Checked this target using single freq ops.
Checked using 15khz, no cigar.  20khz no cigar.  40khz a real extreme weaker signal.  Needed good hearing to hear.  
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The 2 other musket balls.
Park 2  only one of the park and field modes to yield signal.
Gold mode 1 gave signals on both, smooth too.

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Between yesterday and today I spent 6 hours afield with Equinox and small coil and Xp Deus and Hf elliptical coil.

The site used very iron ridden and old.

I compared located suspect nonferous targets while alternating which detector was used to locate a suspect target.
The freq band of 28.8khz used on Deus.
Field 2 and park 2 used on Equinox.

Both of these detectors with small coils do well in iron.
I do think Deus is easier to get one’s arms around faster though.

Modern trash sites the Equinox has a leg up though.

Both these detectors with coils mentioned above have one thing in common.  Both will alert on suspended vertically positioned nails especially square nails.
Deus and LF coil even run at 18khz doesn’t seem to do near as often.

Is this behavior freq driven or algorithm driven?
I can’t say.

The Equinox will indeed find some nonferrous (usually smaller) that Deus and Hf coil while in the mid band freq range CAN’T alert on,
I witnessed this many times.  Sometimes using higher freq band would solve the problem, sometimes not, but remember the 2 coils above not the same size and shape.

Bigger iron I think Equinox has advantage for quicker recognition based on tonal behavior.
But Equinox falls short when compared to Deus and elliptical coil for Nox alerting on nail head with a short portion of shank attached.

Both detectors seem very stable Emi wise in all of the sites I have had them in.

Some targets today field 2 notta, yet park 2 was a hitting.  Even with disc in field 2 set to 0.
Some targets though raising disc to factory default using field 2 would take them out tonally.

The Deus here I think is easier on the ears (from ferrous falsing) even if Deus is set up hotter to run.

I experimented a bit with iron bias setting on Equinox.  But didn’t get enough quantifiable data to post.

Yesterday I compared also to a single freq VLF wearing smaller coil.  It was QUITE evident the Equinox was punching down in the soil better with GOOD I.D  to boot vs the single freqs detector.

I love the fuller tonal presentation the Equniox offers on nonferous targets.

Disc setting using Deus were altered while comsring targets from -3 to 7.0 using full tones and or pitch program.

Neither one of these detectors with the smaller coils are going anywhere.  I love both.

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Very helpful Tn. Thank you!

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