Ok so I’m going to once again be asking opinions of the pros (you all). In my last post I asked what would be a better detector between the Teknetics T2+ and G2+, and it seems the G2+ would work better for gold which is what I’m going to be in the hunt for. But along the way I was introduced to the idea of saving up a little more and buying the equinox 800. What would you do? Option 1, Order the G2+ now and use it for a while in hope of finding a few good nuggets and then buying the Nox. Option 2, keep using my pawn shop kids detector and save up another 2-3 months to buy the Nox. Option 3, buy the Nox now on credit and have my wife hang me...?
By Steve Herschbach
Fisher Research originally released the 19 kHz Gold Bug model about 1987. It was a real breakthrough design at the time with a compact control box, S-rod, and elliptical coils. The detector is a good unit but is strictly all metal (no discrimination). It has no LCD readout and looks much like the current Gold Bug 2 but has a white lower rod and a black control panel face. Some people are confusing this old model with the new so be aware of this when looking at used detectors. The 19 kHz coils for the old Gold Bug will not work on newer versions of the Gold Bug below.
Around 2010 a number of new Gold Bug models were released by Fisher. First came the Gold Bug. Then came the Gold Bug SE (Special Edition) which added manual ground balance at a bargain introductory price. The SE with minor tweaks later became the Gold Bug Pro at a higher price. So now we have two basic versions, the Gold Bug and the Gold Bug Pro. They differ from the old 1987 model by having an LCD readout. The standard version of either detector comes with a 5" round coil. There is a Gold Bug DP (Deep Penetrating) which is nothing more than a Gold Bug Pro with an 11" x 7" DD elliptical coil instead of a 5" round DD coil.
The only difference listed by Fisher between the Gold Bug and the Gold Bug Pro is that the Gold Bug Pro has a manual adjustment option for the ground balance and also offers "higher sensitivity".
Both models use a "Ground Grab" button as a simple ground balance method that is quite effective. The Gold Bug Pro allows you to also manually adjust the ground balance setting up or down. The manual adjustment can be used in conjunction with or separately from the Ground Grab button.
The big question is the "higher sensitivity" claim. There are two possibilities here. First, that the Gold Bug Pro actually allows for higher gain or sensitivity levels. However, I was in marketing too long and have a more jaded thought. Manual ground balance allows for a higher degree of control that if used properly can get you more sensitivity. There is a very distinct possibility the higher sensitivity claim follows directly from the ability to manually ground balance the Gold Bug Pro. This could be tested with both units set side by side with identical ground balance settings and max gain. If the Gold Bug Pro is inherently more sensitive an air test should show it. I have not had the chance to do this my self but if somebody wants to there you go.
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My opinion? I believe the Gold Bug and the Gold Bug Pro if outfitted with the same coil are basically the same detector. The only real difference is the manual ground balance option on the Gold Bug Pro. Do you need it? Not really, and especially when you consider that for $499 vs $649 that is probably all you are getting. The Ground Grab function is remarkably effective and would suit most people just fine.
I personally do like manual ground balance and so for me spending the extra money to get it is a non-issue. I do as a rule tell people that if cost is not an issue get the Gold Bug Pro. It is far more popular and would be easier to resell. But in all honesty I think the Basic Gold Bug is the real bang-for-the-buck unit. There is nothing else close to it at the $499 price point that offers full LCD readout target discrimination while in full power all metal prospect mode.
I should note that First Texas owns both Fisher and Teknetics. The Fisher Gold Bug DP (Gold Bug Pro with 11" coil) is marketed by Teknetics as the G2. The Fisher Gold Bug DP goes for $699 and the Teknetics G2 is $749. The $50 extra gets you a pistol grip rod instead of the Gold Bug S-rod and an arm strap. Nice gray paint scheme also. Really boils down to pistol grip vs S-rod, purely a personal preference thing.
I use the 5" x 10" elliptical myself and consider it to be the best all around coil for the Gold Bug. However, right now you have to get it as an accessory or as part of a two coil package. Fisher would be doing us a service to release the Gold Bug with this coil as standard on the unit.
My Gold Bug 2 is slightly better on the tiniest of gold but the Gold Bug Pro easily outperforms the Gold Bug 2 on larger nuggets at depth. For all around nugget detecting the Gold Bug or Gold Bug Pro (and G2) have a better balance of both small gold and large gold capability than the Gold Bug 2.
To recap first came the original 1987 era Gold Bug with knobs and switches:
1987 era analog Fisher Gold Bug
Then about 2010 we got the new Gold Bug:
Fisher digital Gold Bug
Followed quickly and briefly by the Gold Bug SE. Note how the plus and minus buttons now have dual functions, both Disc and Ground Balance, compared to the basic Gold Bug above:
Fisher Gold Bug SE
The Gold Bug SE was basically the prototype for the Gold Bug Pro, which got a new faceplate decal and a higher price:
Fisher Gold Bug Pro
And finally, the Gold Bug Pro was also marketed under the Teknetics line as the G2 with a different rod/handle assembly:
Gold Bug Pro DP compared to Teknetics G2:
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By Ridge Runner
I’m going to tell you what little I know from a friend from a friend of his that is saying very little as in next to nothing.
It started out this guy wanted to get into coin hunting. He looks around and find himself a used Teknetics. Now remember all this is new to him.
He’s out there just swinging his new used detector and he gets a signal. Well like all good American boy he starts digging. He gets a hole dug about a foot down and hits a brick. Then he makes the hole bigger and low and behold there is another brick next to the first one. The thing is the two bricks are not next to each other but has a space in between. He’s thinking I didn’t detect the bricks and he didn’t because here is this tin laying in between the two bricks. I haven’t got the straight of the type of tin but maybe that will come later.
Here he is with this so called tin in his hands trying to pry it open. Now hold on because this is the things that can dirty your pants.
Okay now he’s got it open. He pops it out into his hand and there lays a Double Eagle better known as a twenty dollar gold coin.
Of all things it’s a walking Liberty with a flying Eagle on the backside . Oh yes I did leave the date out didn’t I.
This old girl is carrying a date of 1907. If you look in a coin book none of them come cheap. He told the guy I know that he knows that it’s worth no less than 6000.
My friend wanted his to send a picture on the phone but the guy said no and he wouldn’t say where he found it. Because it’s a rare coin he just wanted to keep it under wraps at this time.
If can at a later date I’ll give you the rest of the story.
By Keith Southern
Got hold of a T2+ and at first before I received it I was scared FTP may of did something to reroute a Good thing...So I waited and wondered ...The ever evolving series of T2's throughout its life span had me in limbo not Knowing which way it would go...
The original T2 I got in 2007 I believe it was upon release..And I instantly fell in love with it.Buttons were everywhere waiting on me!!..and Loved it,,all but the NOISE of EMI...but still I ran it because I KNEW what it could/would do.
The The Camo LTD with bp mode and Cache Mode...a Godsend...What PUNCH or ability to airgap!!! yet MORE noise...LOL...But I KNEW what it could do...
Then we got the V2 (DST) model...Quiet as a mouse where did the EMI go????Yet to me it was not SPARKY any more and seemed to have a LAG feel and the extreme depth targets would sort of just clip out instead of go to a fuzzy sound like on a non DST version..
Then we got the T2 Classic..WOW!!!!! EMI non existent and speedy,zippy,sparky!! LOVED it..Still had a bit of SLIGHT deep target signal clipping but not bad.YET no BP mode for my air-gap pinestraw prone hunts...
Now we have the T2+
Ill make no qualms about it...The T2 to ME has always been a hall of famer status detector and I'm sure others know/feel this as well..Plus I just mesh with it so easily and love to use them on any iron ridden and or mixed use sites...the ID is superb and Its lite and it just plain digs Relics and loves brass..The Disc is Par excellence on the T2 as a +..One of the few VLF I can pick large brass in large iron easily and add small coil and damage some iron and or trashy mixed use sites with ease...I like to set DIsc ((on a say 100 year continuously occupied site most walk away from including me from all the assortment of trash)) up to 80 and just grab all the silver and large brass etc eerily easy.
Go to a nail ridden civil war house full of iron debris and set disc on zero 2+ tones and Sift iron with small coil...
Work open fields with large coils and threshold all metal and dig DEEEEEEEP..
This is what i like about a T2 a very multi use machine and steady LOCKING I.D's when you need it..
So the T2+??...Well,, and I don't say this Lightly...to me it may be the best T2 built To date...As always K.I.S.S. easy interface..same housing and rods etc..although I notice they have went back to the way the pistol grip attaches to the rod like the first ones did..and I like that..there for awhile they used the brass insert and screw to hold the handles on and they had a slight wobble the first ones with bolt and nut did not have...well the T2+ has the old school set up,, really tight no wiggle!When you turn it on its like any other T2..disc mode 60 sens and 1 tone..Change settings turn it off turn it back on and your back to the 60 sens and 1 tone..I LIKE THAT..hard reset everytime..and makes me check my settings on every hunt..Has all the T2 standard tone modes..1,1+,2+,3,3b,4,Dp and now the added BP and like on the LTD BP its two + tone only...same screen new T2+ Written across top of screen graphics..and detector is T2 classic green ( my favorite color LOL!!)
Here's where things get interesting and my worrying was in vane...This T2+ is as fast as any T2 Ive used in past 11 years..and EMI free to boot...there is some sizzle spark on 99 Sens but that's the Gain not outside interference...It lightning quick!!and recovery shut down and separation is enhanced it so seems by the speed...So its fast and yes its still Deeep...
Clad dime indoors Biaxial coil, 2+ tone, factory ground balance of 90 zero disc is air testing 12.75 inches..and non to jsut slight slight clipping its a modulated whisper like old days pre DST...Turn Bp on same dime is now 15 inches.So the AIR depth is as hot as any T2 I've ever ran..and the speed is as good or MAYBE? slightly faster Even Bp mode which is inherently slower seems to be quick still not as laggy as a V2 DST T2 in standard tone..And maybe a tad bit faster than non DST BP mode..I know there seems to havea tightness feel to the tone now in precise way.
It almost feels like the T2+ has a faster processor or??? inside the unit...Tones are crisp and tight and the separation is quick..And that may be away they overcome some of the DST lag..just speed up the clock??
I never used Cl mode on other T2s so I don't miss it on this one and if you don't need iron volume settings and Variable tone pitch the V2 offers but want performance then think basic old school T2 with Bp only thats where youll be....and the Bp mode on this one carries over to the all metal mode as it should!
I would say its everybit the T2 C. in production now yet seems more reactive and there is a slight cleanness to the tone over the C.Its just as quiet as a T2C.but with the added Bp mode for better below 3 to 4 bar dirt and or air-gap issues from sites its a welcome addition...
This is workhorse unit for sure and can do very well about anywhere inland..Hate to sound to excited about the T2+ but to me its the evolved unit I've wished for...I need no notching or backlights or the likes ..Does well on my 9 inch dime in 4 bar dirt like any PROPER T2 and clips a high tone on the 10 inch dime 4 bar dirt like any PROPER T2..
I wont say its any deeper than past T2's of any model in the soil...but its as fast or faster than some models...
Lets call it a PROPER clean running noise free T2..What more could you want if you need a machine that can really SITE SIFT modern/old or combo of both..There's SOME better iron sifters and there's deeper machines in certain soils But the T2+ has some excellent clean disc and quickness that overcomes its start stop audio gate to a point that it makes it hard to hunt a site then come back and not have to work hard on the site with the Iron sifters to manage more goodies.
One other thing on my buried dimes the 3 tone actually has a cleaner more dig me hit ..the ten inch dime is at least 75% of the sweeps telling me to go for it..On other T2's the 3 tone never was this two tone was ..
OK I like this T2+!!!LOL!!!But I always have...