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These are a few unique nuggets.  Are they found in a particular place there?

Mitchel

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1656424654

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They look similar to the Gold I have found around here, Kiwijw will probably know more about why they look like they do.

Almost all my my nuggets are very flat.  Most are so thin it feels like you could snap them.IMG_20180318_205222.thumb.jpg.53b823984d8b3cea85504f6b81dd2d1f.jpg

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Note the one to the left of the vial there, it's so thin it's almost like a bit of paper.

I'm yet to find a chunky nugget. I think they're water worn but even ones I've found nowhere near water are mostly flat and smooth

 

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1 hour ago, mn90403 said:

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These are a few unique nuggets.  Are they found in a particular place there?

Mitchel

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1656424654

Mitch,

  The auction ad states found in Buller goldfield

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Buller is here, on the West Coast, a well known good gold prospecting area, that seller often sells Gold nuggets, I bought my first "Test nugget" off him when I first got into prospecting.  I have a feeling he's quite a successful prospector.  It's a very wet part of the country, one of the wettest places in the world is my understanding.  Maybe they're so smooth from all the rain :laugh:

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3 hours ago, mn90403 said:

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These are a few unique nuggets.  Are they found in a particular place there?

Mitchel

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1656424654

Hi there Mitchel. Those little nuggets are typical of the kind found in the creeks & rivers all through the gold bearing areas of the South Island of NZ. So not unique really. You will notice that they are very similar to the ones Simon found that he shows in the first vial. Those are his first Gold Monster detected bits from the day I went with him. The bottom vial is flood gold from a creek, maybe two creeks, not very far from the one he found his detected gold. The flood gold was from sluice boxing & is quite a bit smaller, lighter & flakier. Hence being flood gold. The detected gold is quite a bit chunkier & with a bit of body to it & was within the schist bedrock in the creek. No flood was ever going to move it. Found in Central Otago which is almost down the bottom of the South Island. 

What are you doing checking out Trademe?? :biggrin:

Good luck out there

JW :smile:

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      Hi Guys, I am giving this its own thread as I think it deserves its own separate topic. It started with a Reply to Jim_Alaska's Query on my Continued On From My Previous Gold Finds post.
      Jim_Alaska Posted yesterday at 04:24 AM
      “JW, the gold in your pictures seems to be water worn. Is it glacial gold or was there once a river at the height you were working that slope?”
       
      kiwijw Posted yesterday at 01:46 PM...
      Hi Jim, It is a tricky one. Most definitely was a glacial valley & with more than one advance.This particular valley was just one finger of this massive glacier that buried the countryside for many thousands of feet with just the rugged mountain tops protruding above the ice. Evidenced by there jagged rugged peaks as opposed to just below them the ice grounded & smoothed styrated mountain sides. There is a river way down below. That river is believed to have not used to have been there & is fairly recent geologically speaking. The glacial lake that now flows out through that river used to flow out many many miles way further south at what is now the southern end of Lake Wakatipu. Possibly the last major advance of the glacier pushed up a terminal moraine, like a giant bulldozer blade of ice pushing material ahead of it. Effectively blocking off this glacial river draining system like a natural earth, rocks & boulders, dam. Today the main highway passes through the boulder field of massive rocks & debry that was pushed & carried many many miles & traveling on the ice. And then literally just dumped when the ice retreated & melted away never to advance again. Dropping these massive rocks to the ground. A lot of these rocks are very foreign to the local geological makeup of the surrounding mountains. Having come from a long way back. These foreign rocks are known as erratics. I know Jim that you will have an understanding of all this but I am being a bit more thorough in my description for those that don't.
      After traveling this highway a bit further it climbs up & over the moraine & then drops down into, across & up the other side of this now cut off & dried up riverbed. You can see it as plain as day. Even one not up to play with what has gone on will recognize it as an old river despite that it has grass growing in it now. Well sort of among the rocks & gravels. The banks are still there & the dried up river trough "flows" & winds its way down this glacial valley, although very wide,  for miles. The road still passing through older boulder fields & moraines. About the same time as this last advance that blocked off this river, give or take a few hundred or thousand years geologically speaking, it is believed there was a major event that ripped open the ground in this valley where I have been detecting that caused this "new" river & the present day out let for the lake. This major event affected & changed many other land drainage localities in the Otago region. In some cases draining massive lakes. Along with mountain building, land upheaval, faulting & folding, subsidence & glaciation, Otago is a tortured landscape like no other. Bearing in mind that the Southern Alps, from which these glaciers flowed from, are caused by the collision zone of the pacific tectonic plate with the Indo Australian plate.  
      Getting back to your initial comment. Yes the gold is very alluvial. All the Queenstown area gold & most of Otago gold is very alluvial no matter where you find it. Could be 5 thousand feet up on top of a mountain plateau or any where up & along the flanks. No present day river or water for miles. No sign of water worn rocks or debris. Glacial debris....yes....tell tale alluvial river worn material.....no not always up in the hills except in present day rivers. Maybe glacial melt water river/creek type "alluvial" material. But they aren't as rounded & water worn in a lot of cases as a lot of that material is just ruble & debri that got carried on the glacial ice & not pounded & rolled like river material does. The Glacially carried material just being dropped when the ice melted away & only subjected to the dying glaciers melt water forming a river  to give it an alluvial worn look. Until there was no melt water left & the river dried up. I am talking up in the hills & higher areas not the valley floors that carry present day rivers. I guess I am theorising in my own head trying to work it out. I know over the years I have given up but it still intrigues me. Possibly the alluvial gold that is now way up in the hills was deposited by river systems that no longer exist. That the glaciers came & wiped out the the rivers alluvial gravels & material. Leaving the gold buried down in the schist where I am finding it. The land also being pushed up to the heights it is now.
      The higher sides of this valley I have been detecting in & where this"new" river now flows out from the lake has two hugely major gold bearing rivers flowing into it. The Shotover river, known in the early gold rush days as the richest river in the world, & running parallel & separated by a ridge line, the Arrow River. In turn these two rivers had hard rock gold mines developed near their heads. These loads being only a shadow of what they must have been to have released the amount of gold they did. On Lake Wakatipu, a glacial lake, all the gold deposits & loads are on this northern side going back to the lakes head. Nothing on the other side of the lake. The stamper battery & crushing plant being the glaciers which would have filled these side valleys of the gold bearing creeks & rivers of today flowing into the lake from the north & the Shotover & Arrow rivers flowing into this now "new" river that drains the present lake. The signs are there that the lake was much bigger & the water level much higher than today. Possibly held back by massive moraines until this major event happened & erosion from the lakes release cut through & washed the moraine away. Leaving pockets of lateral moraine & glacial silt deposits which are in there own right massive & obvious.
       https://www.doc.govt.nz/Documents/about-doc/concessions-and-permits/conservation-revealed/wakatipu-landscapes-lowres.pdf
      I have gotten carried away again.  I may even add to this.
      Good luck out there
      JW
      kiwijw Posted yesterday at 05:14 PM
      I have included this link of the Ree's & Dart track. More so just for the photos but it is an enjoyable read nonetheless. These two rivers enter at the very head of Lake Wakatipu & there headwaters were the source of this once immense glacier. The Dart glacier just a small Remanent & one of many now smaller glacier remnants up in the mountains heads. The photos of the Dart Glacier show what I was talking about with the rock debris sitting on top of the ice & just going along for the ride & just being dropped when the ice melted away. I have also included it to show just how very similar the glacial countryside is to what Steve has been sharing with us on his Chisana & Gold Hill post. Virtually identical. Enjoy.
      https://www.gang-gang.net/nomad/NZ/NZ34.htm
      JW 
    • By kiwijw
      Hi Guys, I have been a bit slack in coughing up posts of my adventures & finds over the last couple of weekends. So I will go back a couple of weekends to my first mountain E-bike mission up into the hills chasing gold. The challenge was always going to be just how do I carry everything on me on the bike. My only choice was to put it all into my backpack. Pro swing harness with WM12 & B&Z booster & twin speakers clipped onto it. Pick, pick holder & belt. Smoko bag & coffee thermos. The Zed with coil & shaft sticking out the top of the pack. That was going to be the biggest obstacle negotiating through bush & past rocky outcrops without getting the detector caught up on something & getting thrown off the bike, hopefully not down a ravine, or worse...breaking the detector shaft. Oh well....we will find out. So I was all packed up ready to go. Bike on the bike rack & I was off. Simon has committed himself to skiing every weekend day until the end of the ski season. So no Simon.
      He was up there somewhere on Coronet Peak.

      I got to as far as I could drive & got the bike all set up ready to go.

       It was all uphill from here. Having the backpack on certainly didn't help too much with balance & poise on the bike. I need to centralise the detector & tie it tight so it doesn't flop about. Lesson one.
      While it certainly was a lot quicker getting up the hill than walking, it was still bloody hard work & I was pretty knackered when I got to as far as I could ride. I then had to ditch the bike & carry on with backpack on & climb higher.

      Tee shirt was soaking wet.
      Still had a fair way to go

       

       

      Still a bit of snow in the shadows. Note the high sluiced gully center top of pic & the material "flowing" into the creek.

      Heading on up.

      That horizontal line cutting across the browe of the hill is a water race that would have feed the sluicing of that gully in the above pic.

      Up & up & time for a breather.

      Absolutely stunning country.  I love it.

      Looking back down to the gully floor & the whole floor of the gully has been turned over by the old timers.

      All done by hand.

      After having a look around & a bit of a reconoscience I started detecting. I chose some exposed schist bedrock. I got a sweet sounding signal.

      Bingo.

      On the same run of bedrock another signal.

      I am way up from the gully floor but in a bit of a natural run off.

      Another small bit of gold.

      I noticed some rotten crumbling looking schist bedrock on a steep slope that looked promising. Got another signal.

      looking down the gully.

      A nice slug it was.

      There were a few finds that I didn't bother taking any pics as it was pretty steep & I always turn my phone off as it interferes with the detector. So sometimes it is a bit of a pain turning it on to take photos, so on some I didn't bother.
      I had to start thinking about heading out so I started my walk back down. Detecting as I went. I got to some alluvial/glacial gravels that were just above some old workings. I got a nice sounding signal.

      Looking down on the same dig

      Another sassy bit of gold.

      On the same gravels I got another nice hit. This one went down to a bit of depth.

       
       

      My biggest bit of the day.

      Then on the edge of some bedrock & these gravels, another signal.

      Another small bit of the good stuff.

      That was my lot, I had to get a wriggle on to get out before dark. Still had a bit of a walk back to the bike & then a bit of an uphill grind to get up out of this gully for the big downhill back to my wagon. I had seen quite a few broken glass bottles & on my walk back to the bike I saw a bit of green glass only just visible in the dirt. I carefully scraped around it with my pick. Expecting it to be just another broken bottle. But it wasn't.

      Gosh...that is a first. They are always broken. That one came home.
      On my walk back to the bike I came across three of my mates, & the only other life I saw all day apart from a few rabbits, which sums up the type of country I was in. Mountain goats.

      Had a close call riding the bike back down. I got a bit over confident coming down a very narrow part of the track with some over hanging brush. Sort of forgot about the detector sticking up out as much as it was. It clipped a bush & very nearly threw me off & over a bluff. Don't tell Mrs JW, ok Simon.....It tore the skid plate off the coil & I was so thankful it didn't break the shaft. Whew....& the skid plate did not sail off over the bluff. Sure was fun coming down, apart from that close call. WAY quicker & easier than walking.
      End result on the gold front was 12 pieces for 3.54 grams & believe it or not. Not one piece of rubbish.  

       Cheers.
      Good luck out there
      JW 
    • By kiwijw
      Hi guys. Saturday dawned a beautiful clear blue sky day & Mrs JW was keen to take our mountain bikes, that I had recently converted to Electric Mountain Bikes.
      Mrs JW's bike

      My bike

      Taking them for their first major uphill/mountain excursion to some old gold workings. Some of the highest & most remote in the country. I hadn't really planned on it & so wasn't organised for it. It took me a while to find my mountain biking box of bits & pieces, including a very handy bike tool kit that is a much needed accessory when off out in the middle nowhere. I eventually found it all & checked every thing. Yep all there including a couple of spare tyre tubes. We were ready to go. Mrs JW said, "Aren't you taking a detector?" I let on to her that I don't think you are quite aware of what we are in for. So no to a detector. I will just treat this as a reconnaissance mission. 
      We got to our destination & started off. The wagon is parked somewhere down by that clump of dark trees left of center in the background.
       

       It was 3 hours of up.

      And up

      Mrs JW broke her chain. It gave her a good chance to have a bit of a breather. Me to I guess. Luckily I had a chain breaker in my little bike tool kit. I had never ever had to use it before & I have done a lot of mountain biking over the years. It certainly saved the day. Not that it would have been difficult going back down. You didn't need to peedle going down.  

      So with the chain fixed, minus one link, we were off again.
      Mrs JW having another breather further up & making noises about, this is far enough, I have had enough.

      Our destination was that gully directly above her head & around that hill top. Only it isn't really a hill top. It goes on quite a bit further than that. I managed to coax her on a bit further.

      In the above pic you will see some disturbed ground center right. They are old bucket dredging tailing piles.
      After our second rest stop & coaxing Mrs JW to carry on we headed off again.
      Getting up into spinifex, spear grass, Spaniard grass, country. Nasty stuff.

      Things got even steeper & Mrs JW was calling for enough again. Bugger. I haven't even got to the beginning of any old workings. I knew they were not far off. Maybe another half an hour. But no...that was as far as we were going to get. Mrs JW dug in her toes. I was amazed she went this far & she had done real good. So that was it. Down we went. 3 hours up & not even half an hour to get back down. That was fun.
      On our way down we went & checked out a little old Trommel plant I noticed on our way up.

       

       

      From here I saw an old hand stacked schist stone wall off in the distance. I said to Mrs JW it is either an old road/track embankment or a water race. Lets go check it out.
      Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall. Humpty Dumpty had a great.....

       It was a water race embankment. If you go back to the first pic of the trommel plant you will see the level cut continuation of the water race center right.

       

      That was our Saturday E-Bike days adventure. Sundays detecting with Simon to be continued. Cheers
      Good luck out there
      JW 
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