Minelab Equinox Vs Silver Hoard

[staffydog33]

What are your thoughts on the way the Equinox is reacting to 5 troy ounces of silver?

Not my video...but interesting.

 

 

Thoughts?

[Againstmywill]

Recently, I moved out of state. Before leaving, a friend buried 5 roles of quarters in a grass playground area for me to find. He thought I would enjoy because I metal detect. I chose my 800 vs. ET due to the weight. He drew a rough treasure map and I started to search. I was unable to find anything that resembled a quarter signal. He then pointed out the areas, and I detected the rolls only after being shown the exact area. They came in exactly as the video shows. I would never have dug them by the tone or id numbers. It's not that there are rolls of quarters buried all around, but if there were, I would never dig them. I have not tested using my ET or G2, so I'm not sure if other detectors react the same way.

[Dubious]

I'll have to try something like that, if I can lay my hands on that much silver. I'm puzzled because my Nox seems to react appropriately to large chunks of other metals. I would have liked him to show us more about what happens with single coins scooted away from the pile, leaving everything else the same.

Assuming the test was what it appeared to be, I would say there's a serious bug in the programming. Some value for conductivity is going beyond the top and emerging on the bottom. That's the problem with modern digital machines; they have microprocessors that execute computer code, and if the code is not debugged thoroughly, and often even then, you run into situations where you get screwy results. I'll bet none of the Tesoros have this issue...

I am surprised Minelab did not catch this bug in the pre-release testing. I certainly hope a firmware update is released to address it (and some other issues). 

[steveg]

The CTX acts the same way, with stacked coins...that much conductance seems to screw with the ID algorithms...

Steve

[GB_Amateur]

Deja vu?  Hasn't this been discussed multiple times, started by the same poster?  Is this the same person making videos as previously?  Did you notice this clown never put the detector in 'all metal' (non-discriminate) by pushing the horseshoe button?  Is he intentionally misleading or is he just that clueless?  Is he trying to be some kind of hero: "I'm the first person to make everyone aware of this problem, aren't I great?  I talked to the Minelab engineer and he's paying attention to me.  Aren't I important?"  Ditto our poster here.  Steve H. has been fairly tolerant of this repetition and right now he's on leave.  I'll be interested to see his reaction (or maybe his non-reaction) when he gets back.

Look up 'wraparound' here or elsewhere.  That is if you're concerned about learning something as opposed to just playing Chicken Little.

[staffydog33]

This issue is NOT the same as the other coin on edge topic...this is with regards to BIG piles of silver, random amount...hoards huge.

 

Matt

[Andy2640]

Its clearly just an issue with a big stack of silver.  I know directly from experience last week that the nox loves individual silver coins, as i mopped up a huge number of them in only one day.  I tested a 9999 Austrian philharmonic one-ounce coin the other day, and it screamed a high 34! 

Whether its overload on the mimic hoard, i have no idea tbh. 

[Ridge Runner]

To error is human but to really screw things up it takes a computer.

Every detector we have now is a computer and we just can’t see everything that may come up in the future. The people that make these detectors for us have to be very smart but still human.

I’m just saying don’t be hard on any of them. It would be a sad day if they would say I’ve had it and walk away.

Chuck

[CliveHamy]

17 hours ago, staffydog33 said:

What are your thoughts on the way the Equinox is reacting to 5 troy ounces of silver?

Not my video...but interesting.

 

 

Thoughts?

If I had wanted to detect a glass full of silver sitting on the ground I'd use my MK1 eyeballs (or Mk2 if you have glasses/lenses) not a metal detector of any sort. Come on let's get realistic, who goes around depositing bits of silver in a glass on the ground surface in wooded areas!, maybe the fairies? 

Being constructive, what it does tell me is that if you put a jumble of metal 3inches off the ground, then you get signals you would not initially expect. - Thanks for that insight.

Thinking this through, this is a highly complex target,  some of that silver is in plastic cases, some not touching other pieces, its all above ground with no earth in between, so one cannot assume it's one large target. Not something that any detector is designed for. 

I do not know if the author is trying to rubbish the nox, with meaningless examples, or just get publicity, but a more insightful test would be to dig a hole, take the silver out of the plastic cases, pile it in and pack it with earth. - Much more realistic example. I'd been interested to see that.

 

[Sinclair]

The Nox loves silver for sure .. I've found many many little pieces of silver since owning it.

But I've also discovered, that the Nox doesn't seem to like multiple coins in one hole once in a while .. I had some similar situations on the beach. I am not talking a hoard.. but 3-4 coins close together "can" be a problem. On the other hand, I had clear signals and was reasonably surprised to find 3 coins in one scoop...